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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/21/2007 9:14:40 PM

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You know, as a die-hard Steelers fan...I'm pretty disappointed in my team this year. They certainly didn't look like the SuperBowl champs from last year.

But moving on... I was hoping it would be Bears and Colts this year and I got my wish. I do like the Bears, but I always root for AFC, so Colts FTW!!!

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/21/2007 10:30:56 PM

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Da Bears!

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 12:11:02 AM

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Just thought I'd highlight this comment from the AP account of the Patriots-Colts game, since it seems dead-on to me:

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Not only was it a win for Manning, the All-Pro, All-Everything son of Archie, it was a riveting, back-and-forth showcase of two of the NFL's best teams, best quarterbacks, and yet another example of why football is America's favorite sport.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 3:38:38 AM

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I totally agree, LaM. I don't think anyone out there can say this wasn't a good game. It would have been nice to have had a 20 point cushion, but yesterday to me was real nailbiting football. I think even if my Colts hadn't won, I would be proud of the game they played.

I know we are all glad to see Manning break this "curse" that had been on his back against the Patriots.

As long as the Superbowl is as good of a game as last nights, win or lose I will be pretty proud. It would be a beautiful thing to win though... very beautiful.

Kasha

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 4:15:03 AM

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Not to take too much away from the Colts comeback, but I never saw anything approximating "roughing the passer" on that late roughing the passer call. One would think some sort of substantive contact between a defender and QB would be needed for such a penalty.

As for Manning, he's always been great ---- its the stupid press who needs to be put to bed. Yes, Manning's in the SB, but if his team had lost last night, say Brady directed the PATs to a final TD, Manning would still be a great QB not reaching the SB.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 5:28:30 AM

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Russ Grimm reported new head coach:

http://hawks.aolsportsblog.com/2007/01/21/tribune-review-steelers-pick-russ-grimm/

But, from what I heard on the radio this morning, something happened during contract negotiations and Mike Tomlin will be announced today as the new head coach. Those silly anon sources.

Stay tuned.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 6:34:07 AM

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Congrats to the Colts fans ...see you in Miami.

oh don't rely on being the 7pt favorite to win either

DA BEARS!!!

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 7:00:29 AM

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I can't decide who to root for . . .

Will it be the team from the Windy City, with one of the longest traditions that includes legends like Halas, Ditka, Butkus and Payton?

Or will it be the pussies who play in a dome for a team that snuck out of Baltimore in the dead of night like dogs with their tails between their legs, despised even by Johnny Unitas who didn't want any of his records associated with them and now having a QB with no soul?

I'll have to think about this . . . it might take me a whole nanosecond to decide.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 8:26:17 AM

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Now's the time I get to join the " sob" part of the thread.

It was a hell of a dogfight between the Colts and Pats last night and they clearly deserve this win and their trip to the SB.
I'm still pretty upset about blowing an 18 point lead, altho like I said at the time, a 40 point lead isn't enough against Manning. They made the comeback run of the century. Our guys stayed in it all the way, but it wasn't enough.
I'm still proud of my team. Anyone who followed this thread will remember that I said I didn't expect us to get further than one play off game.

Heres to a great season for all of us who fell out of the race !

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 9:06:52 AM

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ESPN and Cold Pizza are reporting that Bill Parcells is retiring. Supposedly he will be making an announcement shortly

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 9:27:27 AM

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Too much T.O.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 9:32:42 AM

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Too much T.O.

That was my first thought, Katy. As I recall, he said basically it's me or him. Looks like Jones made his decision, now he lives with it. For better or worse.

I didn't have the link when I posted, so here it is now:

http://www.nbc5i.com/sports/10813625/detail.html

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 9:38:04 AM

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He turned Dallas around during his time there. If not for that bobble by Romo, who knows. I thought perhaps he would want to further groom Romo as a qb, but I think T.O is too much drama to deal with.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 11:29:34 AM

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Jeez people are against the colts...Admittedly, I'm not a big sports or football person. But still, the Colts have made it to the playoffs several years in a row, and they finally make it to the superbowl, and people should be happy for them. I think my entire campus went crazy after the win, and with good reason. They play a good game, and a good season. Give them their due respect.

As for who to root for...that's the hardest question, because I'm in indiana but my parents and family are all from chicago, so we are at a loss.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 11:43:43 AM

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It would be my guess the reason the Colts left in the middle of the night is because of how irrational some football fans get after a game like that. If anyone saw the attitudes of a good portion of the fans from Baltimore that night, I don't think anyone could blame them.

We are a team that has worked hard year after year, and now it's finally paying off. I actually like both the Bears and the Colts..both are good, and both deserve to be in the SB.

I am hoping for a great and exciting game... I hope we win, but if we don't... we finally have that monkey off of Paytons back and will look on to next year.

This is going to be one where both teams aren't used to getting there... maybe they will appreciate it a lot more than the ones that get to go there almost every year and think they are unstoppable.

It's the year of the usual underdogs to finally get what they deserve.. good luck to them both...with a bit more luck given to my Colts. (of course)

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 11:52:21 AM

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Some ex-players of the Baltimore Colts on yesterday's game (mixed feelings):

"To have our [Baltimore] Colts memorabilia in the Pro Football Hall of Fame under the Indianapolis name is disgusting."

"I did not root for the Colts," "They're a bunch of sneaks who'd sell their own mothers to win the Super Bowl. I don't like the way they left town; they didn't do things the way normal human beings do them."

"I'm happy the Colts won," "I never thought I'd say that. ... They took our history, and that's serious stuff.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.coltsreact22jan22,0,6198679.story?coll=bal-sports-headlines

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 12:28:04 PM

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On Baltimore, and bitterness:

I can't think of a break-up between a city and its sports team that went well. It is worse than breaking up with a girl, and still being friends. I've seen newspaper clips from the time the Browns and the Lakers left their respective home cities of St. Louis and Minneapolis, and they are not pretty (yah, those were actual teams, y'know). I know several Brooklyn Dodger fans that pray for an earthquake to swallow up that Blue monstrosity in Chavez Ravine every June.

Then again, when I was a wee baseball loving boy, my idols were my hometown heros, the Milwaukee Braves. I (along with every other 9 year old in the City that Means Beer) had a personal promise from Henry Aaron that he'd break the Babe's home run record in Milwaukee County Stadium. So, that didn't happen. They moved. No big. Really. I'm ok.

It really didn't affect me, much. Except that for the next 24 years I didn't watch a pro baseball game. And I still have trouble saying the name of that...Atlanta-fucking-southern-hick-goddam-Indian-giver-tomahawk-chopping-Jane-Fonda-loving-cable-mogul-team. But I'm ok. Really.*

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 1:24:12 PM

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I grew up an Atlanta Braves fan and was thrilled to see Aaron break Ruth's record in Atlanta/Fulton County Stadium. It was not till years later that I learned the history of my beloved Braves. I honestly feel sorry for the Milwaukee fans who got stuck with the used car dealer and his team instead of the Braves. I went to the first regular season Braves/Brewers game at Milwaukee County Stadium and sat next to some older folks who were still very bitter about the Braves leaving. Teams become a part of a community's fabric and when they move it is always a hard thing.

How the Colts left Baltimore takes things to a whole other level. They didn't announce the move and then leave. They literally packed their offices in the middle of the night, loaded moving vans and left the city before making their move public. Irsay is a coward and the Colts name and history should return to Baltimore. Even if I wasn't now living in Chicago I would support the Bears just so that no Irsay could ever have the Lombardi trophy, the city of Baltimore has possesion of the trophy from Super Bowl V not the Irsay's.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 1:29:47 PM

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Peyton Manning is having his thumb x-rayed today. This is not an injury that is expected to keep him out of the SB.

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RE: NFL Sob (or Brag) Thread - 1/22/2007 1:38:48 PM

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quote:

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I can't decide who to root for . . .

Will it be the team from the Windy City, with one of the longest traditions that includes legends like Halas, Ditka, Butkus and Payton?

Or will it be the pussies who play in a dome for a team that snuck out of Baltimore in the dead of night like dogs with their tails between their legs, despised even by Johnny Unitas who didn't want any of his records associated with them and now having a QB with no soul?

I'll have to think about this . . . it might take me a whole nanosecond to decide.

When the Colts moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis all those years ago, they were not the first team to move from one city to another, nor were they the first one to move from a city that still supported the team but negotiations broke down with the government of the city. Neither were they the first team to move in the darkness of the night.

Other teams have moved, the Raiders are one that has moved several times. Owners have the right to change the city that their team plays in. It is not the CITY that owns the team, they are privately owned.

Personally, I am from Indianapolis, and have always felt that the name should stay with the city. I felt that they should have renamed the Colts. As when the Oilers moved to Tennesee they became the Titans, to me that was a great choice. I have to admit, I like the new logo and colors of the new Baltimore team better, but having the tradition of the past, the long history, the name of the Colts should have stayed there.

But it is a done deal, it is over, and it is many years ago. Those hard feelings are time to be put in the past. The owners, the players, and everyone involved in the move are no longer even associated with the team. It is just keeping a feud alive that is time to be laid to rest.

The Colts did a fantastic job. They set a Championship Game record for the best comeback in League history. The Field Goal Kicker has the record for the most Field Goals by a kicker in Playoff History.. These are great feats and should not be overshadowed because of someone's grudge over a past event that is nearing twenty-three years old.

Teams to Change Home Locations..
The Boston Braves became the Boston Redskins became the Washington Redskins
The Houston Oilers became the Tennesee Titans
The Dallas Texans became the Kansas City Chiefs
The Oakland Raiders became the Los Angeles Raiders became the Oakland Raiders again
The Los Angeles Chargers became the San Diego Chargers
The Cleveland Rams became the St. Louis Rams

Yet, it seems that only the Colts are the ones that everyone keeps remembering and harping on. It is time to let it rest.

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