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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/28/2006 7:15:55 PM   
popeye1250


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Give me your tired, your poor
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
The wretched refuse of your teeming shores
Send these, the homeless tempest tossed, to me
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

time to get that statue down, I'd say.   there she stands, with her torch of ... petroleum, on her poem of lies.

maybe someone could replace her, who would be more fitting.




Ah....Daddy, it's called "Lady Liberty" not "Lady Illegal Aliens".

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/28/2006 7:57:21 PM   
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I've chatted with several immigrants from India. When I didn't answer their IM's fast enough, I was a whore, bitch, etc, etc. One of them threatened to send me a virus because I was multi-tasking and dared to not reply fast enough. When I mentioned the similarity of their bad attitudes to friends, I was told men from India are raised to treat women like shit.......it's a cultural thing. What kind of dangerous men  are we letting into our country? This isn't about race or color, it's about culture. While  Mexicans need to learn English, at least most of them are friendly toward Americans. Guys from India come over to the United States and treat Americans like shit. Instead of building a wall to keep friendly immigrants out, we need to keep the psychos out.


And I'd prefer to get rid of the willfully ignorant and/or deliberately obutse, but we all can't have what we want.

People like you make the rest of us look bad.

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/28/2006 8:00:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't know if it will work but it's a start, I'm all for it. To the one who posted about the "give us your tired, poor etc..."
How about we change it to, "Give us your tired, your poor who will work and be a useful part of society".

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/28/2006 8:17:53 PM   
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Don't know if it will work but it's a start, I'm all for it. To the one who posted about the "give us your tired, poor etc..."
How about we change it to, "Give us your tired, your poor who will work and be a useful part of society".


I don't know how it is in the States, but that would kick out half of Canada.

Believe me, I know.  I hire and fire Canadians all the time.  "I can't come in, I sprained my leg and it's a long weekend."

Most immigrants I have hired have had a great work ethic, because they have not been spoiled by social systems, rich parents, and slack schooling.

Kids these days!

Yours,


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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/28/2006 8:46:32 PM   
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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 6:35:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Popeye:  In regards to Rick Perry & the "Mark Foley Problem" ... errrr hadn't heard that lil piece, not even an intimation of it in any mud slingin' political ads, so ... ??
Yes, Kinky Friedman is one & the same as "Kinky Friedman & the Texas Jewboys".  There seems to be a pretty dayumed good chance he will will; he's #2 in the polls right now & fondly points to Jesse Ventura who was at the same point one wk before he won the governorship of MN!  :-)  Voters are lining up in record numbers at the early voting polls.  So, yes, Kinky has a real chance in this thing!

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 6:52:26 AM   
MsD


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ORIGINAL: daddyslap

Give me your tired, your poor
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
The wretched refuse of your teeming shores
Send these, the homeless tempest tossed, to me
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

time to get that statue down, I'd say.   there she stands, with her torch of ... petroleum, on her poem of lies.

maybe someone could replace her, who would be more fitting.

Let's be real clear about something ... I don't believe anyone here is abdicating closing the borders to LEGAL immigration.  My ancestors were immigrants.  But they were documented & contributed via taxes out of their paychecks which went not only to the fed/state govmt but to local school systems as well.  The problem is with the ILLEGAL UNDOCUMENTED workers - period.  I don't care what country they're from, they're here ILLEGALLY.  My ancestors & all those that the Statue of Liberty represented when built & represents today, come to this country & become LEGAL DOCUMENTED imigrants & contribute taxes withheld from paychecks!  The illegal immigrants do not receive a typical paycheck; it's all under the table; there are no taxes withheld, yet their children are in our public schools which is funded by taxes ... etc, etc. 

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 9:24:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MsD

Popeye:  In regards to Rick Perry & the "Mark Foley Problem" ... errrr hadn't heard that lil piece, not even an intimation of it in any mud slingin' political ads, so ... ??
Yes, Kinky Friedman is one & the same as "Kinky Friedman & the Texas Jewboys".  There seems to be a pretty dayumed good chance he will will; he's #2 in the polls right now & fondly points to Jesse Ventura who was at the same point one wk before he won the governorship of MN!  :-)  Voters are lining up in record numbers at the early voting polls.  So, yes, Kinky has a real chance in this thing!


MsD, great! I'd love to see Kinky Freidman win the Governorship of Texas!
Of course "the suits" don't want that as it would upset their nice comfortable little applecart!
That's what The People need to do, shake up and get rid of those career politicians!
If you can give me an e-mail addy for Kinky Freidman's campaign I'll make a donation to his campaign!
That'd be great to see him win!
He's a real charachter.

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 9:41:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		The only thing that we need to control is the intake rate.  Screening is an issue too.  Those are the only reasons I would personally plead with possible/current illegals to go the legal route. 

If they don't, however, I'm not going to turn my back on them.  They're humans too, and should be treated as such...

Anyway, if we need cheap labor to do it we could always hire a couple of Mexicans to do it for $1.50/h

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 10:08:28 AM   
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The only thing that we need to control is the intake rate.  Screening is an issue too.  Those are the only reasons I would personally plead with possible/current illegals to go the legal route. 

If they don't, however, I'm not going to turn my back on them.  They're humans too, and should be treated as such...

Anyway, if we need cheap labor to do it we could always hire a couple of Mexicans to do it for $1.50/h


Paradoxy, no-one said that they're not humans. lol
Just that they can be "humans" in their own countries.
And as for screening yes, it's becomming a very serious problem medically!
Mumps outbreaks in the mid-west, Leprosey now in the N.E., 8,000 cases!!!
Then there's T.B. making a come back.
If the third world is sneaking into the West we're going to have third world diseases. Ask any Doctor.
A lot of people are beginning to talk about taking a 10-15 year break on all immigration, "refugee", and "asylum" programs until we can get all the illegals out of the country.
I think some people on the left "feel sorry" for them.
That's all well and good but if they do how come they have so much trouble finding their checkbooks but have no problem using O.P.M. (Other People's Money) like Taxpayer dollars to help them.
The fault lies not with The American People but with those people's governments and home countries.
The West has been involved in "foreign aid" for the last 50 some years and it's very obvious to everyone now that it just doesn't work as virtually all the money is stolen.

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 3:54:30 PM   
TexasMaam


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Status: offline 		I'm not much of a Kinky Friedman supporter, but I heard him ask in an interview yesterday evening:

"Well I used to be for George Bush's proposed 700 mile fence but now I'm not."

"Why not?" asked the moderator.

"Because I got to thinking, what if in 10 years or so we all want to get the hell OUT of here?"

AMEN!

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 4:24:27 PM   
philosophy


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Status: offline 		"If its a 20ft stone blockade with armed guards drivng along side of it.. it could work."

...uh huh...after all they had one of those across the middle of Berlin and that worked perfectly didn't it?

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 6:35:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		More that 10% of the total population of Mexico is now in the US.

That can't be good for either country

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 7:27:55 PM   
popeye1250


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More that 10% of the total population of Mexico is now in the US.

That can't be good for either country


And 16% of the Dominican Republic's population is now in the U.S.!

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 7:29:22 PM   
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MsD, great! I'd love to see Kinky Freidman win the Governorship of Texas!
Of course "the suits" don't want that as it would upset their nice comfortable little applecart!
That's what The People need to do, shake up and get rid of those career politicians!
If you can give me an e-mail addy for Kinky Freidman's campaign I'll make a donation to his campaign!
That'd be great to see him win!
He's a real charachter.
   www.kinkyfriedman.com

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RE: Bush oks 700 mile fence - 10/29/2006 8:06:29 PM   
popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: MsD

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
MsD, great! I'd love to see Kinky Freidman win the Governorship of Texas!
Of course "the suits" don't want that as it would upset their nice comfortable little applecart!
That's what The People need to do, shake up and get rid of those career politicians!
If you can give me an e-mail addy for Kinky Freidman's campaign I'll make a donation to his campaign!
That'd be great to see him win!
He's a real charachter.
   www.kinkyfriedman.com


MsD, thanks! Great site!
"KF" as they call him wants to impose $25,000 & $50,000 fines on companies who hire illegals. Now we're talking!
And he's going to put 10,000 Texas Nat. Guard Troops along Texas' border with Mexico instead of 1,500.
I made a donation to his campaign of $25.
It would be fun to watch the changes he wants to make!
And the site said he wants to have state funded healthcare for every citizen in Texas.
I really hope he wins!

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