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.Communist dictatorships were never truely communist, they were dictatorships because they denied the democracy that is at the heart of all communist manifestos that Marx and Engels had a hand in writing.  Frederick Engels is an interesting person to read and he wouldn't recognize communist regimes that came about and used his name, he would see them for what they were, nationalist dictatorships.

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But I agree, socialism needs an international dimension and without it, it is nothing. That is not to say that nothing can be learnt from socialist philosophies in the same way it would be a mistake to deny that nothing can be learnt from capitalist philosophies. A politician worth his salt would be well versed in both. Sadly in today's world, western politicians are populist and have little time for complex thought. To see a politician giving serious thought to problems and succeeding is refreshing.

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1. This is no longer your post - it's about Vermont, which is in the U.S. and since I'm a Yank, I am claiming it as our own.  (We will allow you to visit, but you will need a VISA, a background check and you will have to remove your shoes before going through security)

Whoaaa, hang on a minute here. Under English common law ownership rests with the founder. As there has been no exchange of title deeds, or contracts signed, young Bernie remains the sole proprietor of this thread.

Obviously, you don't pay much attention to all the various posts throughout these forums - this is new GW America; your assumptions are based on pre-9/11 law, things have changed here since then - LOL

Now, I'm a reasonable man but life is short and time is money so if you want this thread it will cost you, and dearly.

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But this doesn't mean I don't luv ya ;-P

TGD, I can feel the love and rest assured it is a two-way street but will the love still be there when I pitch up in Indiana, run for senator and turn the place into the People's Socialist Republic of New Mancunia?  I know you'll vote for me. Life is going to be one big, miserable reign of Socialist terror. We'll have a ball. No more fun, no more happiness - just you, me and the rest of Indiana wallowing in misery.
 
Fine by me, I'm in Illinois ;-)

 
On the plus side, and just so you appreciate there's no hard feelings, I'm prepared to let you keep one of the mid-wests' favourite hobbies - the one where you get on a cow and the owner takes you for a walk down the street, rodeo is it called?
 
Rodeos are more in the South and West - I think you may be thinking of State and County Fairs. 
 
The real entertainment with bovine is a process known as "Cow Tipping"!!!  You sneak into the fields at night when the cows are asleep (they sleep standing up), you position your self in more or less a football (American Football) stance, then you ram your shoulder into their side (like an American Football tackle) with enough force to tip them over ... then run like hell away from the pissed cow.
 
Now that my friend is the height of livin' here in the Midwest.
 
IMPORTANT NOTE:  The important word to remember is COW, the female bovine.  Do NOT try Bull Tipping as: 1) you can't tackle them hard enough to tip a bull, 2) they tend to be lighter sleepers so it's harder to sneak up on them, 3) them horns ain't for show, and 4) if you tip a cow, your friends will tell you that your a moron to your face; if you try to tip a bull, your friends will discuss what a moron you were over your grave.

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ORIGINAL: philosophy

"Is it a coincidence that the vast majority of elected officials are lawyers? If there is an international conspiracy, it’s being run by lawyers."

...first thing we do, is kill all the lawyers............. 

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Obviously, you don't pay much attention to all the various posts throughout these forums - this is new GW America; your assumptions are based on pre-9/11 law, things have changed here since then - LOL

I'm fighting back. The great warlord George Walter Bush can keep his grubby little hands off my threads.
 
TGD, I can feel the love and rest assured it is a two-way street but will the love still be there when I pitch up in Indiana, run for senator and turn the place into the People's Socialist Republic of New Mancunia?  I know you'll vote for me. Life is going to be one big, miserable reign of Socialist terror. We'll have a ball. No more fun, no more happiness - just you, me and the rest of Indiana wallowing in misery.
 
Fine by me, I'm in Illinois ;-)
 
The hole is getting deeper by the second :-) My geography of the US is shocking.

The real entertainment with bovine is a process known as "Cow Tipping"!!! 
 
Hey, it sounds much better than swimming with dolphins which has been voted the number one thing to do before we die (by Britons). Why would anyone want to get in with a pack of dolphins all looking at you with cynicism and disgust? The equivalent is like an Indonesia Dolphin farmer coming over to England and saying "do you mind if I get in with the cows?"......."what do you wanna do that for?"........"I dunno, I just wanna get in with them and have a scuffle around".