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Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 11:16:53 AM   
LotusSong


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Status: offline 		I predict both houses will by 75% Democrat after this election.   What's YOUR prediction?

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 11:27:24 AM   
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I predict both houses will by 75% Democrat after this election.   What's YOUR prediction?


I predict if they don't the cry will not be that they lost, but that the election was rigged.

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 11:37:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know that 75% would be accurate but I agree they will be predominately democratic.   I also think the people are generally tired of the "rigged" battle cry regardless of who wins or at what level of election (including local).

At some point we have to trust the counters and their watchers.  yes it is a falable system, but it is the only system we have and I don't believe that tthere is a perfect system.

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 11:48:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		75% would truly be a miracle. I think that the Dems will take the House back fairly easy but will not get the Senate and fall one seat short. I am scared that there will be too much I hate politicians and incumbents but just not my own type thinking. If you ever want change, no matter which party you identify or values somewhat mirror you, constantly voting for the incumbent is a vote for status quo.

I agree with the crying is reached the point of give me a break level. Get the people out to vote and the elections would not have been that close for that stuff to rise to the surface.


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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:06:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		They elections aren't even  on right now and REPUBLICANS are saying they want to check out the electronic voting machines!  Check out or Rig... your guess is as good as mine.

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:28:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

I predict both houses will by 75% Democrat after this election.   What's YOUR prediction?


I think the Democrats will take it, but I dont think it will be that large a landslide.  Not because I think most of the Republican's should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail, but because the Democrats learned from their mistakes and have specifically targetted races where they are likely to defeat the Republican incumbent.  From what I have read, there are 26 close races in this country for seats in the house, and the Democrats need to win 14 of them to become the majority party.  So the party is pouring their money into those 26 races and not really spending a lot of time or effort going after the ones they wont win.  There is a similar issue in the Senate. 

Both of these are exacerbated by the recent scandals...

For example, I doubt they are trying to defeat Rohrbacher in California or get a Democrat elected in Texas.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:29:56 PM   
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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:31:27 PM   
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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:32:24 PM   
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i predict we're gonna be screwed for yet another 4 years.


I predict this also.

But more in the sense that whoever wins the next election is going to feel like the 3 or 4 friends who have to clean up their parent's house after a wild blow-out party the night before.

I can just imagine the Republican's ranting about how it was all so wonderful when they were in charge...

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:37:18 PM   
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The unemployment rate fell in October to 4.4 percent from 4.6 percent in September. It was the lowest jobless rate since 4.3 percent in May 2001. Source: http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=businessNews&storyid=2006-11-03T171259Z_01_N02359086_RTRUKOC_0_US-ECONOMY-JOBS.xml&src=rss&rpc=23


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The U.S. recorded a budget deficit of $248 billion in the fiscal year ended Sept. 30, $48 billion less than the government predicted in August and the narrowest spending gap since 2002.
Revenue increased 12 percent from the previous fiscal year, led by a 27 percent gain in corporate income taxes, the Treasury said today in Washington. Spending rose 7.4 percent to a record $2.65 trillion. Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aaL.AxnKs6nU&refer=us

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Consumers will begin the holiday season with more cash in their pockets, anchoring forecasts for improved economic growth in the fourth quarter. Consumers may spend 6.5 percent more during the holidays than a year earlier, accounting firm Ernst & Young LLP said. The season accounts for a fifth of sales at retailers such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and Federated Department Stores Inc. and is the most profitable period for most stores. Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aOqECa4KHSTM&refer=news

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:38:52 PM   
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We really should do something to stop these trends...


elect a poor person, they are generally thrifty, plus they also know what is important to people


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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:42:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

We really should do something to stop these trends...

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The unemployment rate fell in October to 4.4 percent from 4.6 percent in September. It was the lowest jobless rate since 4.3 percent in May 2001. Source: http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=businessNews&storyid=2006-11-03T171259Z_01_N02359086_RTRUKOC_0_US-ECONOMY-JOBS.xml&src=rss&rpc=23




Unemployment rates are determined by how many people apply for unemployment benefits.

A dropping rate means that less people are applying for unemployment benefits...

As well as...

People whose eligibility to apply for them expires because they were on them too long.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy




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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:43:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong
I predict both houses will by 75% Democrat after this election.   What's YOUR prediction?


I predict if they don't the cry will not be that they lost, but that the election was rigged.


Good thing the Republicans lobbied so hard to prevent Diebold et al from giving out paper receipts to people after they vote.

I guess they did not realize that these receipts could be used to actually prove how a person voted and whether an election was rigged.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:44:20 PM   
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Unemployment rates are determined by how many people apply for unemployment benefits.
A dropping rate means that less people are applying for unemployment benefits...

As well as...

People whose eligibility to apply for them expires because they were on them too long.
Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.
Sinergy


Unless it's being done differently with this report than all previous reports, the relevancy remains intact.

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:50:33 PM   
caitlyn


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Status: offline 		Democrats will control the House and Senate, and promptly mistake this for some sort of mandate from the voters, when in fact it's more of a "grass is always greener" vote.
 
Democrats will use this imagined mandate, as a reason to push forward a highly liberal agenda, that really isn't supported by the voters. President Bush will veto them all.
 
In the 2008 Presidential election, we will get another neocon President, because the idea of electing someone that will actually pass the liberal agenda presented by Congress, will scare people more than another neocon President.

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:51:29 PM   
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What mind altering drugs are you on, Lotus? 

I'd say the odds are that the House and Senate both will stay Republican.  Might be close, but it usually breaks to them.

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:51:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

I predict both houses will by 75% Democrat after this election. What's YOUR prediction?


I say if you're gonna have a fantasy, why waste it on politics? Let's put that creativity and wishful thinking to better use. :)

Rex


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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:52:06 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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Unemployment rates are determined by how many people apply for unemployment benefits.
A dropping rate means that less people are applying for unemployment benefits...

As well as...

People whose eligibility to apply for them expires because they were on them too long.
Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.
Sinergy


Unless it's being done differently with this report than all previous reports, the relevancy remains intact.


I dont see anything in the report you cited to suggest that the way the Government is stating the statistic is based on any different modelling.

I did forget one thing.

A person is considered being no longer unemployed when they leave 3 years of unemployment after their high tech six figure job was offshored to India and finally take a job stocking DVDs at Walmart.

Perhaps I just have a deep distrust of any government sponsored statistical survey. 

I tend to think that a much more relevant survey would be "The average starting salary for a new hire has gone from X to Y."  In the industry I was in formerly (computer system administrator) the same job that would pay 90K in 1995 now pays 30K if the person is lucky.

The person is no longer unemployed, so Monkeyboy's economic theories look rosy on the oustide.  The person in question has simply lost their home and car and livelihood because SBC offshored their job to Mumbai.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:54:49 PM   
Mercnbeth


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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

Democrats will control the House and Senate, and promptly mistake this for some sort of mandate from the voters, when in fact it's more of a "grass is always greener" vote.
 
Democrats will use this imagined mandate, as a reason to push forward a highly liberal agenda, that really isn't supported by the voters. President Bush will veto them all.
 
In the 2008 Presidential election, we will get another neocon President, because the idea of electing someone that will actually pass the liberal agenda presented by Congress, will scare people more than another neocon President.


caitlyn,
My congratulations to you and your sources of education!

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RE: Election Predictions - 11/3/2006 12:55:04 PM   
Sinergy


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75%?

What mind altering drugs are you on, Lotus? 

I'd say the odds are that the House and Senate both will stay Republican.  Might be close, but it usually breaks to them.

FirmKY



This is true about Republican majority in both houses of congress usually breaks to them, for example, look at the Republican majority in Congress from the early 1970s...

Move along, nothing to see here.

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