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ORIGINAL: ChaOz

So ladies, get confident by being educated. Look into the pickup community, find the techniques they employ and learn to spot them. Its useful to know as most of it can be applied to any social situation, not just to get one night stands.
Are you implying the is a whole community centered around the explotation of woman? I honestly have never heard of such a thing and would be eager to read up more about these bands of sweet talking, emotionally vampiric Cassanovas.


It is poweful though so dont feel bad if he hit you with it, and someone who is that invested in getting chicks and developing long term relationships on lies and bullshit probably does know a bit about it.
Few of these types are capable of keeping someone longer than one year.


Would be interesting to see if the sub spots any techniques used on her. Dont feel bad though, this stuff can get a wife cheating on a husband or a non-bi curious girl in bed with a lesbian, I do think its that powerful as it turns your emotions against you and is actually designed to work against confident, educated and sexy women.
I do not believe that through mere words you can twist somebody into doing something that is completely out of character for them. They do it at that moment because it is in them to do it.

But it is lame and personally, I'm against it. I... just cant not be myself you know? Never used it on anyone, but was surprised how invested a lot of people are in living that lifestyle.And that guy.. pitty him.. deep down he is a loser who cant find true happiness. Take it as a lesson learnt and move on to greater things. (the techniques on giving a women the ultimate orgasms are cool though lol which is the other justification of people who do this, the great sex)

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ORIGINAL: LordODiscipline
I told you where I got it from... a search would work pretty well.

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ORIGINAL: Morrigel

I also disagree with your view that a woman who may choose, consciously or semi-consciously, to be fertilized by a man with whom she feels she has formed a pair bond, would necessarily make the same decision if she knew that he had no emotional investment in her, her welfare, or the welfare of her potential offspring.  Ooo, crazy thought I know!  Maybe women aren't as likely to get knocked by guys they know aren't going to stick around!  But hey,  I guess I just don't have as much blaming-the-victim contempt for the human race as you do.  Silly me.

--M

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ORIGINAL: Morrigel

I don't believe anyone was shocked to discover that unprotected sex caused pregnancy. 

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ORIGINAL: BDSM05478

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ORIGINAL: ChaOz

So ladies, get confident by being educated. Look into the pickup community, find the techniques they employ and learn to spot them. Its useful to know as most of it can be applied to any social situation, not just to get one night stands.
Are you implying the is a whole community centered around the explotation of woman? I honestly have never heard of such a thing and would be eager to read up more about these bands of sweet talking, emotionally vampiric Cassanovas.

****There's a book, featured on the New York Times best seller list during sept and Oct 2005. Its about and writen by Neil Strauss, a guy who infiltrated the pickup artist community and its basically about his training and exploits. Though yeah, its global, lots of books, videos and online groups where men get together to team up and chase chicks and then do online field reports complete with the photo of their 'target' asleep in their bed. Just put Neil Strauss into google and I can give you the groups main website if you want. As far as being in sales or a Dom is concerned, its useful to a degree, especially the sex tips.. some awsome stuff that really works and I havent seen anywhere else.


It is poweful though so dont feel bad if he hit you with it, and someone who is that invested in getting chicks and developing long term relationships on lies and bullshit probably does know a bit about it.
Few of these types are capable of keeping someone longer than one year.

*****Your right but once you 'act' to get a girl you 'act' in the relationship, and they tend to have several long term ones going at once. Or just a chain of fuck buddies who they introduce to threesome's. Its a players paradise once you get it down as it does work though the chasing seems to be addictive and so they do become incapable. It changes them. And there's oneitis, a term for a guy who has fallen for one girl. Its a disease, it ruins your abilities to play. Thats how they live. As a subculture its one of the more interesting ones and I've looked at a few.


Would be interesting to see if the sub spots any techniques used on her. Dont feel bad though, this stuff can get a wife cheating on a husband or a non-bi curious girl in bed with a lesbian, I do think its that powerful as it turns your emotions against you and is actually designed to work against confident, educated and sexy women.
I do not believe that through mere words you can twist somebody into doing something that is completely out of character for them. They do it at that moment because it is in them to do it.


*****There's two sides to the brain, the logical/rational one and the emotional one that is used in this. An emotional woman can be a whirlwind.... and at no time do you tell her that you want to sleep with her, they basically got the (sorry ladies) irrationality of women worked out. Shit that makes no sense but works and is tested over hundreds of hours on the field so they know it hits the girl at a core level. Women do run from a guy coz they get a 'bad feeling' even if its baseless, just like they can do the opposite.

For instance there is a story of a virgin christian, a babe who wanted to save herself for marriage and was totally hardcore christian. So she gets played. Part of it is that the guy doesnt like her name and jokingly calls her Nikki or some such, tells her thats her name for tonight. Its a dissociative. Shes no longer herself, shes Nikki, a sexy and playful name. She is with a friend who she is really comftable around for some reason, who reminds her of all her other really close friends... even thought they just meet and anyway.. things just happen. Not anyone's fault, just one of those things. So this guy has her in his bedroom and is already physical to some degree but he starts thinking what if and calls her by her real name. What happens? She freeze's, stunned and runs out. The fantasy is gone, broken. Its how its played, and its also tranferable to the Dom/sub role to some degree.

I wouldnt blame any chick for being hit by it, as it really does work and can almost put them in an emotional barrier. Its not the chicks fault. Guess its how a slave must feel.

Their motto: Women want to be seduced.
I know if I had a daughter I'd get her to fucken learn it so she isnt screwed over by some asshole.


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I had sex with a woman in college and pulled out, only to discover the end of the condom had broken open.

While it did not happen to us, a condom is not 100% guarantee against getting pregnant.

Just me, etc.

Sinergy

yeah that happens..very common in fact.... what is less common would be if you had ever lived with a woman, thought you were life partners, decided you wanted a family, and then found out that she had another current life partner and some kids you never knew about.

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ORIGINAL: BDSM05478http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

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ORIGINAL: BDSM05478http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community

eye opening for me too, reminds me of Tom Cruise in Magnolia..."Respect The Cock!!!"

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

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ORIGINAL: BDSM05478http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community

eye opening for me too, reminds me of Tom Cruise in Magnolia..."Respect The Cock!!!"

.... because "Magnolia" was a movie about the seduction community.

I've read the Rolling Stone writers book recently as well, and found it very interesting.

My take on that community, however, is that they are simply technicians in the male/female relationship game.  They have, through blind chance and constantly trying, worked out a plethora of techniques that often seem to be successful for them to get women's attention.

Without any deeper understanding of the human mind, morality or social dynamics.

I call em "pikers" too. 

FirmKY

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A problem I've noticed amongst some of the most dedicated posters here, especially those who got into ASF in their teens or early 20s, is that they have INVENTED themselves through this theory. They are, to some degree, SOCIAL ROBOTS. And, after a great 20 minute set, it begins to show through to an HB ["Hot Babe"] that you don't have anything MORE going for you. The other problem with being a social robot is that you start to think that everyone else around you is one too, and begin to read TOO MUCH into their actions.  

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

So the op has a Mensa level IQ. Big deal did it help her. So she has a college education. Did that help her. Did getting played make a dumb ass out of her. Look around. People on here are always getting played. Why the hell would you think that it wouldnt happen to you. So much for having an Ego.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin


I found that link interesting also. One thing in particular stood out because I have also noticed the same thing occur within this "community".

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ORIGINAL: Morrigel

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

So the op has a Mensa level IQ. Big deal did it help her. So she has a college education. Did that help her. Did getting played make a dumb ass out of her. Look around. People on here are always getting played. Why the hell would you think that it wouldnt happen to you. So much for having an Ego.

I have no idea wtf you're talking about.  I don't believe I've ever said that bad things couldn't happen to just about anyone.  Is English not your first language?  Or are you replying to the wrong person?

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So the op has a Mensa level IQ. Big deal did it help her.

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

So the op has a Mensa level IQ. Big deal did it help her.

My take on IQ is that a good metaphor is a bowl.

A person can have a huge bowl with nothing in it.

A person can have a tiny bowl that is full.

The person with the tiny bowl is probably more capable in life than the one with the big empty bowl.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy

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It works the other way around too, you know.  There are plenty of females who are dishonest in their relationships with men and take advantage of them until it's time to move on to the next one.