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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/5/2006 5:06:39 PM   
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Apologies but i do not know what a neocon is although i do get what you are saying.
 


     Neocon is shorthand for neo-conservative and has become a term used by the liberals/left/democrats to villify and demonize anyone they can attach the label too.   Funny how that works....



Exactly, WyrdRich, Thank you for pointing out that rightists/conservatives would never villify or demonize other peo...

Move along, nothing to see here.

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       I don't believe I suggested anything of the sort Sinergy, but thanks for trying to put words in my mouth.  In fact, I would swear I just saw a post around this forum somewhere suggesting that was a Republican tactic.

       To the OP, the date of the sentencing has been known for some time.  Is it coincidence?  I have no idea but suspect it is.  I don't see it as an issue likely to sway swing voters.  

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/5/2006 5:11:09 PM   
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I wonder how many Guys Fawkes bonfires will feature effigies of Saddam this year.

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Gunpowder, treason and plot...


Great Popeye - just ditch Iraq and go start a new war in Pakistan. They are more your size, they have nukes. As soon as Canada and NATO have cleaned up the mess you made of Afganistan we'll get right on tidying up after you in Iraq. By then you should be done fucking up Pakistan and ready for your next military adventure... maybe North Korea (right after SirKenin has it nuked) or occupy Tiawan... so much to choose from.


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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/5/2006 5:55:25 PM   
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I wonder how many Guys Fawkes bonfires will feature effigies of Saddam this year.

Remember, remember
The fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot...


Great Popeye - just ditch Iraq and go start a new war in Pakistan. They are more your size, they have nukes. As soon as Canada and NATO have cleaned up the mess you made of Afganistan we'll get right on tidying up after you in Iraq. By then you should be done fucking up Pakistan and ready for your next military adventure... maybe North Korea (right after SirKenin has it nuked) or occupy Tiawan... so much to choose from.



Zensee, shouldn't you be watching "The Simpsons" about now?

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/5/2006 5:57:01 PM   
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Popeye - shouldnt you be commanding YOUR army?

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/5/2006 8:23:53 PM   
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Popeye - shouldnt you be commanding YOUR army?


How can one command an army using nothing but disconnected and non sequiter sound bites?

(thinks about Monkeyboy)

Oh, sorry.  Move along, nothing to see here.

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/5/2006 10:50:08 PM   
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Popeye - shouldnt you be commanding YOUR army?


How can one command an army using nothing but disconnected and non sequiter sound bites?

(thinks about Monkeyboy)

Oh, sorry.  Move along, nothing to see here.

Sinergy


Sinergy, so you agree with Bush's invaision of Iraq when we know bin laden's in Pakistan/Afganistan?
The Iraq War was supposed to be a "gift" for Exon/Mobil according to those on the "Left."
And who cares if Pakistan has nukes, they can't reach us.
We however can reach them from somewhere in the Indian Ocean.
*They need to give up bin laden and al qeada.*
What would you suggest, that we just forget 9/11 and give bin laden and his cohorts a "pass?"
We should have had them long before now!
And how many people in here will be changing their vote because of Saddam?
Not me!

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/6/2006 8:31:28 AM   
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No way this is a November Surprise - too much of a possibility for this to backfire.

What if this causes a civil war to erupt today?

Too risky, even the dimmest of politicians could see this is a potential bomb - one the Repubs hope doesn't go off and one the Dems DO hope goes off.

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/6/2006 9:29:43 AM   
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Had this really been a ploy to curry favor then the execution would have been held today the monday before elections or earlier, announcement of the sentance is too little too late for anyone to really change their minds.


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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/6/2006 3:26:11 PM   
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Popeye - shouldnt you be commanding YOUR army?


How can one command an army using nothing but disconnected and non sequiter sound bites?

(thinks about Monkeyboy)

Oh, sorry.  Move along, nothing to see here.

Sinergy



And who cares if Pakistan has nukes, they can't reach us.
We however can reach them from somewhere in the Indian Ocean.

Ok Mr selfish - what about the countries they can reach?
How can you sit there and be so uncaring?
Mind you i've come to expect little more from you - i dont know  why im surprised at your attitude.


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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/6/2006 8:28:15 PM   
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I'm pretty sure his comment was meant to be sarcastic.
 
Perhaps it's that language barrier we struggle through here in the infant nation.
 
Nice flame though.

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/6/2006 9:22:58 PM   
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    Neocon is shorthand for neo-conservative and has become a term used by the liberals/left/democrats to villify and demonize anyone they can attach the label too.   Funny how that works....



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Exactly, WyrdRich, Thank you for pointing out that rightists/conservatives would never villify or demonize other peo...

Move along, nothing to see here.

Sinergy


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      I don't believe I suggested anything of the sort Sinergy, but thanks for trying to put words in my mouth. 



I am sorry if I assumed your comment about leftist / liberals / democrats villifying the other side was an assertion your part that people on the other side of the political debate would never villify leftist / liberals / democrats.

I should remember that when I assume it makes and ASS out of U or Me.

And I apologize for the one-sided smearing and villifying of right wing / neoconservatives by liberals / leftists / democrats, and I will send an email to MOVEON.ORG immediately to request they cease and desist their baseless accusations that the right wing has ever resorted to hate mongering or villifying.

Apologetically,

Sinergy

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/7/2006 5:01:42 AM   
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I'm pretty sure his comment was meant to be sarcastic.
 
Perhaps it's that language barrier we struggle through here in the infant nation.
 
Nice flame though.


Well there we have to differ Caitlyn as i'm pretty sure it wasn't.
Maybe you are right but in most people i would have taken that as sarcasm, just not popeye.
I'll never know though as i think i'm invisible to popeyes eyes - either that or he ignores me lol

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/7/2006 8:43:10 AM   
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First, if anything, there was an outcry against conservative blowhards like Rush Limbaugh coming out and accusing Fox of "faking" his own disease.  Lest we forget Rush's own issues with drugs and medication.  But I guess that's ok, because he supports Bush and is thus a good American.

I disagree.  I don't think that people are going to run out and vote Democrat because of Michael J. Fox.  However, there will be a segment of voters who will vote Republican because of this.

The fact is that Michael J. Fox has admitted in the past that he has not taken his medication before interviews to make his symptoms look worse.  But you call Limbaugh a "conservative blowhard" for accurately pointing this out.
Let's just say that Limbaugh "botched a joke."
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a) Where's the WMDs?  Close to four years in Iraq now and they still haven't been found.  And I don't think anyone is expecting to find them anymore, because he didn't have any!

Good grief.  Are you really unaware about the declassified portions of the National Ground Intelligence Center report?  They have found at least 500 WMD. 
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf

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b) Show us evidence as to Saddam trying to build an atom bomb.  The uranium from Niger story was refuted years ago.  But it seems you're still stuck in the past, so I'll give you a pass on it.  Or, actually not, because people like you who are so brainwashed and uneducated scare me.

Good God man, it was on the front page of the NY Times the other day.  It was their October Surprise on the Bush Administration...look how stupid the Bush admin is for posting Saddam's nuclear secrets on the internet (they were promptly taken off the govt website)...

"Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq had abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?em&ex=1162702800&en=1123f11868faad44&ei=5087%0A

This article is in your hometown paper dated Nov 3, 2006, and you call me "uneducated and brainwashed" for saying that Saddam was 1 year away from building an atom bomb.

Are you a parody or for real?
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c) No, Saddam did not support international terrorism.

"President Saddam Hussein has recently told the head of the Palestinian political office, Faroq al-Kaddoumi, his decision to raise the sum granted to each family of the martyrs of the Palestinian uprising to $25,000 instead of $10,000,” --Iraqi deputy prime minister Tariq Aziz, as reported by Reuters on March 11, 2002.
 
I've seen pics of the checks on the internet!
 
Where did an injured Al Zarqawi flee when Afghanistan was liberated?  To Iraq where he was treated in a hospital owned by Uday Hussein.
 
Where did Abdul Rahman Yasin (wanted by FBI for the bombing  of the World Trade Center attack in 1993) flee?  Who gave Yasin free housing and put him on a govt salary?  Then there's Abu Nidal and Abu Abbas, two notorious terrorists who sought and got safe haven in Saddam's Iraq.  

I'm constantly amazed when Democrats claim that the US armed Iraq--and show the pic of Rummy shaking hands with Saddam (but they ignore the pic of Madeleine Albright shaking hands with Kim Jong Il when Clinton gave him nuclear materials).  To an extent, the US did arm Iraq.  SIPRI (a Swedish Peace Research group) has a report that says that the US did arm Iraq--to the tune of 1% of its arms.  Russia was at 57%, France at 13%, and China at 12%--82% of Iraq's arms came from these 3 countries who had veto power on the UN's Security Council; all owed billions by Saddam.


saskslave:
I looked at both of the links you posted.  They do not say what you say they say.  Perhaps you might want to consider reading them in their entirety
The first link from fox speaks about decayed chemical weapons.
The second has a retraction attached to it dated 7 november 06.
If bush&co had any evidence to bolster their position it would be all over the news media.
Shotgun Dick was on "Meet the Press" a few weeks ago and agreed that there were no wmd in Iraq and the the only reason we went to Iraq was for regime change and we would have gone in and done that regardless.

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/7/2006 8:49:34 AM   
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Omg my daughter who is 14 would like to know if the rumour of george bush going into iraq to gain control of the countries oil industry could be at all true?
Even my daughter puts my knowledge of politics to shame


missturbation:
Tell your daughter that it is true and welcome her to the real world.

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RE: Timing of the Saddam Death Sentence - 11/7/2006 2:49:57 PM   
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thank you thompson.
I think she lives in the real world more than i do

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