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Dnomyar -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 10:08:36 AM)

I think that female supremacist has a place in here. Some men can't relate to women in any other way. A 18 or 19 year old who proclaims herself a Goddess needs to grow up.




ExtremeOwnerIL -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 10:10:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
"Call me Sir wench!"


/Punctuation humor mode on

"Call me Sir Wench" - that's quite a title - doesn't that belong on the "Why Do Dommes post in the Master's Forum" thread?

Oh wait, you meant "Call me Sir, wench!"

*chuckle*

Regards,
EO




MagiksSlave -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 10:12:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

I havent seen a man use the term God before his name on here. But I underestand what you mean.


Noo they use Lord Master Poohpah!!! LOL

Different words but they all boil down to the same thing\

Magik's slave 




jdtallfem -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 10:18:11 AM)

Well from what I've read on the internet there is a Goddess movement. Don't know if the ones who are calling themselves Goddesses subscribe to that or not, but it is a movement leaning toward body worship, pampering of the subs toward the women, female supremecy that sort of thing.  The women take themselves very seriously, wear Goddess clothing and have their own fetish styles and protocal just as a Lord does.




BitaTruble -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 10:31:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

A lot of younger women use I am a Goddess.  What is your impression when you see this?


It's situational for me. Often it's bravado and when it is, it's very obvious. But, there are some people who, even at a very young age, feel what controlling power does to them and they don the cloak of Goddess (or God, it is also men who do this even at a young age). Of course, most others won't recognize such a person as a deity and as long as it's not expected, it's all good.

::partial repost::

"Darkness, that stormy weather of the soul and the ability to harness it and unleash it with control. It's no wonder to me that some Masters who have that ability think they are Gods. To shape and dictate where the lightening strikes, when the rain falls, how fast the heart beats. 

The deer makes no gift of her meat to the hunter. He takes it and eats it at his leisure.  He digests it then utilizes it and snaps it out the end of his whip, the blade of his tongue.. he makes the rain fall in the form of tears. He makes the Earth stand still or rotate with single words dropped from great height. Shall the world spin to the left or right today?"

If power, control, authority or what have you makes you feel like a God or Goddess, I'm wouldn't presume to argue that I know your feeling better than you and that it makes you feel like something else.

I think, a lot (not all) of the time, it just allows you to up the price of what you charge for your Pro-Dom sessions and the 'Goddess' doesn't feel it, but knows it's expected from her so plays the role she's paid to play.

Celeste




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 10:31:48 AM)

That they've bought in, just like I did, to the notion of who they SHOULD be rather than being themselves and they are playing a role they've seen being portayed over and over again as the ideal of a Female Dominant.

That's my first thought. However, I acknowledge that those who practice magick truly feel that the Priestess is the embodiment of the Goddess...a being to be worshiped and praised through her. So, my first thoughts might simply be my projections onto them.


Master Fire




amayos -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 10:40:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

A lot of younger women use [the phrase] "I am a Goddess." What is your impression when you see this?


When a female describes herself as a Goddess, I believe she means that she is adored for her beauty and allure; that she embraces the ideal of reaching the feminine divine within herself as much as mortally possible though virtue of mind, body and spirit. I do not think many are suggesting they have literally descended from a mantle of celestial deities.




littlesarbonn -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 10:41:56 AM)

I usually take "Goddess" in someone's name with a grain of salt until I actually start interacting with her. The designation can mean so many things to so many different people. It's a lot like submissives who see a beautiful woman on a profile picture and immediately start filling in the fantasy details they don't actually know right before they fire off that first email. And they wonder why the woman gets pissed when they've made leaps of logic that were never there in the first place.

I don't have a problem with a woman who designates herself as a goddess if that happens to be the role that she embodies within herself. It can be spiritual, it can be femdom oriented, or it can be just someone who is damn proud of herself and wants to flaunt it to the rest of the world. When it's someone who is unsure of herself, and she uses the title as a mask to hide behind, then I find myself concerned, and I discover that I'm probably not the guy for her, but I'm sure there are many out there who will fill her stable quite nicely.

I have a lot of experience in goddess worship from a number of different angles and have done extensive research on different applications of it because I am fascinated by it. I have dabbled in the past in female empowerment, even to the point of female supremacy, but having had a few years behind me, I can place that within an acceptable paradigm for myself that is more about individualism than blanket proclamations that so often seem to put the horse way before the cart. So often, when a woman calls herself a goddess, I find myself intrigued into finding out why she has designated herself so, and it's not a journey of deconstructivism I travel after that but one of understanding and seeing how that fits within something I can participate, and if not, I make no effort to push the behavior into any type of condemnation because I've learned a long time ago that there are enough problems in my own fantasy/reality paradigms that I have no room to cast doubt on someone else's.

Many years ago, I was interviewing a well known pro dominant who uses a very specific title. I remember when I went to interview her, I had great fantasies of how she would be in a conversation because of that title alone. She told me in the interview that her title is a joke, that she uses it because so many of the other women take themselves so seriously that she felt it necessary to go overboard with her own designation. That, alone, told me far more than I ever discovered before, and it helped to ground me in future expectations with women to whom I had no previous information.




joshua69 -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 10:45:20 AM)

I usually just touch myself.




LotusSong -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 11:17:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

A lot of younger women use I am a Goddess.  What is your impression when you see this?


a Goddess?  .. prove it....
 
But then I realize how soon they will be humbled with THAT attitude, so I just smile and nod.




ShiftedJewel -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 11:28:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

I'd love to hear from some of the Goddesses on this thread.  [sm=smile.gif]


All I can say to that is..... OUCH
 
Beyond that... I just can't refer to another human being as Goddess...




LadyHugs -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 11:44:03 AM)

Dear Dnomyar, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
When someone applies Goddess to me, I take it as a compliment that my age, when myth and centuries ago they had an expansive range of power.  Problem is, they don't know of a Goddess Hugs.  BUT!, I am about as old as them [Chuckles].  Its at these moments, I think I'm looking rather good for my age. [Smiles]
 
I haven't used the term "Goddess" as to describe me.  I rather interact with the folks on earth, rather than a temple on Mount Olympus.  Although the temples do have some nice bondage points, like the columns.
 
As far as others using the terms "Goddess" it is in my mind's eye that sometimes title of Goddess is a sarcasm or the dry wit.  Like a 600 lbs man calling himself "Tiny."

Yet, some are really quite serious about their title.  It really depends on how the person comes across as individuals.

Last young one calling herself Goddess, was absolutely 'not funny' at all.  Rude, obnoxious, dressed like a 1970's hooker/prostitute, barn critters had better cleaning habits, better then thou attitude on all things, had to have the last word, which was most times foul or a profanity, assumed that everybody was going to respect her. [Cough]
Her intent was getting a free ride in life with men supporting her, without questions. 

I don't have good impressions on anybody who calls themself a Goddess and acts like a prostitute, acts like a spoiled brat and or acts in a manner that is disrespectful.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

 
 




Dnomyar -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 11:52:59 AM)

LadyHugs quit thinking that you are old. You are far from it.




Najakcharmer -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 11:59:24 AM)

"Thou art God/dess."

If it's done in the spirit of "all things are sacred and the power exchange that we make here is sacred" I can certainly respect it.  If a woman feels the need to identify with the feminine Divine, that's okay with me, too.   Spiritual BDSM is alive and well in our community.

Now if we're talking about the Empress Goddess Mistress Of The Known Universe All Must Bow Before Me type, that's just funny as hell.  And a bit blasphemous from my perspective, but I suppose everyone has the right to exercise their fetishes with consenting adults even if they are disrespectful of other people's religious views.  Eg, doing a naughty nun fantasy.  It's all good as long as you don't push it in someone's face who really doesn't want to see you disrespecting their faith. 




Rover -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 3:55:54 PM)

I thought this was an interesting definition of "Goddess".  You'll find it about half way down the page.
 
http://www.albanypowerexchange.com/BDSMinfo/bdsm_101.htm
 
John




topcat -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 3:55:54 PM)

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A lot of younger women use I am a Goddess. What is your impression when you see this?


"Oh how cute- Of course you are..."




LaTigresse -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 3:58:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rover

I thought this was an interesting definition of "Goddess".  You'll find it about half way down the page.
 
http://www.albanypowerexchange.com/BDSMinfo/bdsm_101.htm
 
John


Now see, this makes sense. But I just KNOW that no 20ish young lady can possibly fit that description. It was the use of the word "young" in the initial post that made me write the opinions I wrote.




cloudboy -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 4:01:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: amayos

When a female describes herself as a Goddess, I believe she means that she is adored for her beauty and allure; that she embraces the ideal of reaching the feminine divine within herself as much as mortally possible though virtue of mind, body and spirit. I do not think many are suggesting they have literally descended from a mantle of celestial deities.


1. My anecdotal observations lean the opposite way. Truly knockout women don't drop the term Goddess.

2. Many Dommes often use "Goddess" as a part of their marketing jargon for Professional Domination.

To wit:

http://www.collarme.com/bdsm/v/364416/rzkh/51765/default.htm

3. Maybe the term Goddess is just a starndard part of current femdom vernacular. For women self describing themselves as Goddess, tho, it surely raises the bar, and it creates the possibility of some ugly ironies.




amaidiamond -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 4:02:58 PM)

I have to admit, my first reaction at seeing that is the click the "next" button and nod and smile to myself..




Emperor1956 -> RE: Goddess (11/7/2006 4:03:58 PM)

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Tigress:  Naaawwww, the guys use stuff like LordoftheUniverse and MasterofAll. [:D]


[&:]  uhhhmmmm ... actually I'm named after the butterfly.

E

My favorite Goddess:  http://witcombe.sbc.edu/willendorf/willendorfgoddess.html

That baby's got back!




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