toservez
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy Hello toservez, While I agree with the comments about getting on with business and avoiding acrimony and recriminations, I am not sure I agree with some of this post. The problem within the two parties is more complex than simple partisan bickering. Over the past few decades, one bloc of the Republican party, largely composed of pentacostal, charismatic millenialists, have become the largest single voting bloc in the Republican Party making up 40% of their population. In my more myopic and jaundiced moments, I wonder if the Republicans are doing what they are doing as an attempt to bring us all to Rapture and the End Of Times as soon as they possibly can. Global warming? Sure. Noah will drive up in his boat after the planet floods. Nuclear Armageddon? Jesus will come back and save us. This is why Monkeyboy, during his reign of error, would do anything he could to avoid angering that voting public. The problem I have had with the Democrats for most of my adult life is they seem to have lost the ability to stand up and be counted for having definite opinions about freedom of choice, end the war, affirmative action, etc. To me, they seem like a party comprised of wankers too frightened to stand up and say exactly what they think. Sen. Leiberman is a perfect example of a modern Democrat. He talks and talks and talks and talks and suddenly you wake up from the blather induced coma and wonder how he got your bra undone. So the Democrats watch their power base erode, and see all these disenchanted moderate Republicans lose faith in their own party. So the Democrats shift to the right to try to bring them in. You make the comment that we should put aside bickering. I disagree completely. The Republicans did everything they possibly could to bring down Clinton and his ushering in the largest economic expansion in the history of the United States. I think it would be foolish for a Democrating Congress to allow Monkeyboy to continue his attempts to oversee the largest debt-orgy and financial disaster in the history of the United States. I dont think it would be a mistake at all to impeach that clown, drive him out of office if possible, and bring him up on criminal charges for violating the oath of office he swore to uphold. Just me, etc. Sinergy I think maybe I was not clear in my comments. I actually agree with everything you say in principal, maybe not the tone, but I do agree with you except for the impeachment and if I thought if it was possible I would be for that as well. But that takes the Senate in agreement which would never happen and all it would do now is result in bogging down the government and rehashing the same old stuff. My big point was that the Dems should not go back retro on Bush. I do not think the public on the whole want to rehash why we went to war under false pretenses. Most people get it and it does nothing for us now. I agree that the Dems have had no balls for a long time and it was self inflicted. I just think the public has responded in away that this was not about we want everything traditional Democrat causes pushed through but we want the rubber stamp to stop and the middle, which most of the country are, to be heard again. What maybe I failed to make clear was that Bush will abuse his power illegally again. Probably within hours let alone months. He did this with a Republican Congress so why would he not do this with a Democratic one? The mans does not care and is so far gone from reality this election could not sober him up at all. My point is when this happens, then the Dems need to fry him for it. It is about appearence. If the Dems fry him going foward it looks like they are doing their jobs and moving forward a sense of purpose and direction. To go back on things would just make them look petty and child like in my mind.
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