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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/9/2006 9:53:03 PM

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Well, as long as they're in lower-case when they suck my cock, it's hakuna matata.

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It ain't so much a matter of tolerance, when I get my dick sucked by abcs, I dont wanna hear big bird or mister rogers, K?

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/9/2006 10:08:34 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Well, as long as they're in lower-case when they suck my cock, it's hakuna matata.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It ain't so much a matter of tolerance, when I get my dick sucked by abcs, I dont wanna hear big bird or mister rogers, K?

*snickers* You two deserve each other!

As for the slash writing... I personally find it annoying since is disrupts the flow of words. But, that's just me. For the most part, I prefer to use proper grammar, with some exceptions (as seen at the beginning of my post

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To each, their own.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/9/2006 10:09:56 PM

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okay some of you know me and for those of you who don't ........... yeah i used to use the H/he, S/she and in fact i believe i accidentally did it recently in another thread on a totally different subject, but as i said that was merely an accident.

i was told my now ex r/l Master to type H/he, S/she, A/all and so forth and so on, but my current Owner does not like me doing that so i try not to do it and if i slip up He chuckles and says "you did it again brat," but He does not get upset about it.

personally i don't like it, never have but i did it because it was required of me as was my saying girl, a girl, this slave or this one which i try not to say any more but again i do sometimes slip up.

if it is required by one's owner then so be it, but other than that please understand that for some slaves, subs, Doms or Dommes that is how they prefer to type and it's a quirk that i dislike but i try not to knock them because we are all human and do things differently from Joe Blow from Idaho or Stan the Man, or whoever.

a slave/sub does it out of not knowing different when they start out in the lifestyle and yet others do it because they are told. A Dom or Domme does it out of reflex if they did it as a sub/slave if that's how they started out in the lifestyle.........now this is not to say that all you Doms and Dommes started out as slaves or subs or that you use the H/he or S/she or in some cases Syre/Sir.

any way i'm done my little rant for now and am sure i'll get some interesting responses to my post and i'll take any flack i get over it, but as always we are all entitled to our opinions.

just because something works for one person does not mean it will for others.........

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 12:09:23 AM

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it annoys me no end. more than likely because it feels like an affectation for onliners. in RT respect is conveyed by tone and manner, since obviously i can't tell if a sub has capped my name when speaking to me.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 12:39:54 AM

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it annoys me no end. more than likely because it feels like an affectation for onliners. in RT respect is conveyed by tone and manner, since obviously i can't tell if a sub has capped my name when speaking to me.

Well said.

Although Capitolising "Him" or "Her", when referring to the dominant partner doesn't bother me one bit.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 1:48:35 AM

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To me its nuts. Communicating is full of obstacles and pitfalls that can lead to misunderstandings, why create more.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 2:46:06 AM

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     I, personally, find this [Y/you] alteration very silly.  Disregarding, for a moment, grammatical correctness, keeping in mind the very reason that some people in the d/s community decide to use this style of writing, it seems to be of no actual value.

    Here is why: it is not what we say, but what we do; actions speak louder than words; symbols hold no meaning unless a definition has been attached to them. In example, if it is important for a sub to show subservience to a dom, that sub sends the message that he/she is submissive to the dom by using this [Y/you] style of writing because this corresponds specifically with the demands of a particular dom. Employing this [Y/you] style of writing in any other context means absolutely nothing.

    Any person who has studied, to a minimal extent, the American-English language understands where/when/why/how to use capitalizations while writing, as dictated by the rules for this language. While sometimes the patterns which emerge from the application of our grammatical system can help us to interpret the meaning of verbal messages, often times there is a lack of rhyme and/or reason behind the protocol required. Augmenting these rules even further by establishing a style of writing by which pronouns representing a dom are capitalized, only increases the difficulty of having effective verbal communication. Hence, it could be stated that this augmentation does indeed get in the way; it does impede our communication.

    In consideration, one might weigh the pros alongside the cons. My finding is that this style of writing hinders, both in reading and understanding what's written and in the process of sending a message, well more than it helps, even to show servitude to a dominant individual.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 3:04:47 AM

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Furthermore...

    Typing in this [Y/you] manner is an easy way to give a slight appearance of being submissive and subservient, but holds no valid meaning of a persons' real character traits. I would guess that many people who use this style are insecure about their genuine abilities to submit or wish simply to play a role in the game of d/s. It is also possible that there are cases of imitation--copying what is seen without realizting why it is being practiced, and therefore continuing a behavior, advocating misuse.

    Interesting phenomenon...

    Those who emply this [Y/you] style of written communication in the d/s community may vastly be those who possess the least bit of natural submissive qualities.

It is something to think about.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 3:13:40 AM

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As soon as someone can tell me how to pronounce a "capped" letter in r/t, then I will make a big issue over making sure that I do it online.

As someone who types for a living, I am not going to type one way for the general public and another for the amusement of "so-called Doms" in internet chat rooms.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 3:29:53 AM

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This all goes back to showing your Dominant respect. Always putting Him first and not yourself.

I doubt it "goes back" to any time before there were chatrooms, and I think any dom who needs something as trivial as a capitalized letter to feel respected is downright petty.

Thats your opinion and your entitled to it, as is everyone. Personally the ''W/we'' concept doesnt bother Me. But like you, I think it did originate from chatrooms, further noting that the AOL crowd didnt care for it while the Yahooligans embraced it. To Me, as long as it doesnt show up in every word and sentence its fine, otherwise its an overkill and an eyesore. I agree with the other poster who stated "It's an exercise in self-discipline which many subs need and a way to honour the D/s." I think it also differentiates U/us from the vanillas, keeps em guessin. Not a bad thing.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 3:40:49 AM

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Well I do use it, but for an entirely different reason. Being a switch with 2 different "personas", I find it helps Me (and hopefully the reader) keep track of which of Me is writing! If I am using capital I and Me ... it's My Dominant side, Jay, speaking. If i am writing about me, then it's my sub side, violet. And if my sub side wants to refer to Master and myself, it makes perfect sense to use W/we in that context. However, if Jay was to refer to Master and Herself, She would use We! I do try to keep it to a minimum by phrasing My sentences appropriately but I still find it useful in a written context only. For Me, it obviously doesn't translate to a pronunciation or make any difference to my real 24/7 life with Master, or My hunt (still continuing) for a sub/slave! It's not even so much a matter of respect, as some have suggested here. It's simply a device, as is any other written protocol such as using italics or bold for emphasis, or the rules for correctly writing scientific species names! No doubt some here would take a dislike (rational or irrational) to the fact that genus names are capitalised and species names are not i.e. we are Homo sapiens or Homo sapiens! Nonetheless, that is how the organisation in charge of scientific nomenclature decided they should be written and it is useful in being universal. The slash writing may not be universally liked or adopted by bdsmers, but it is generally understood, as is the use of brackets denoting a collar. Again, just a helpful device in attempting to depict something that is real into a written context. And yes, where is the tolerance which bdsmers are so fond of saying they possess?

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 3:45:19 AM

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Can't stand it myself. Even more so now I see that it came from chatrooms and such.

Pedantry is one of my pet hates. Anyone who insists on writing like that because they're trying to show ME respect soon gets told what's what.

Is it not too much to ask that people demonstrate enough grasp of the language to convey deference without all that capitalising bollocks?

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 3:47:02 AM

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I don't mind it but it is next to impossible for me to use. I was trained in journalism, mastered in English, and am ingrained with those sets of rules. I have tried to use capital letters for "Him", "His", etc., but fail at consistency (although "Sir" is easier since it becomes a proper noun / name), and I cannot bring myself to use a lowercase "i" when speaking of myself. Just personal preference.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 4:00:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It ain't so much a matter of tolerance, when I get my dick sucked by abcs, I dont wanna hear big bird or mister rogers, K?

LOL...I bet we could compile these Ronisms and have one funny book. Hilarious stuff.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 4:17:52 AM

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In most cases i find that using slash speak etc... is a symptom of what i call the "Domlier/subbier " than thou syndrome.
Much like those who do extravagant dominant, or subnissive cyber gestures in forums online, and especially chatrooms. It's like they are trying very hard to prove how dominant or submissive they are. I think we all know who we are without having to resort to that, and frankly some one who insisted on me behaving in that way, would probably not be the right some one for me.
This is not to say that that i can't like or respect the thoughts of those who do so. But those who do it in excess are sure to make me roll my eyes, and it draws attention away from what the person is actually saying if i have to decipher all the slash speak or even slave speak.

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 4:22:52 AM

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When i first saw this post my first thought was that you had been hanging out with Jamesthehumanrug, lol.

< Message edited by twicehappy -- 11/10/2006 4:23:34 AM >

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 4:31:46 AM

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Good for you. Its not so much a 'Gor' thing anyway

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 4:37:29 AM

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Good for you. Its not so much a 'Gor' thing anyway

I tend to steer away from discussions on Gor and good use of language :)

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 4:46:11 AM

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I noticed! LOL

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RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? - 11/10/2006 4:48:38 AM

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This all goes back to showing your Dominant respect. Always putting Him first and not yourself.

Actually my dom forbids me writing I in lower case. So what you say doesn't apply to all doms. And some are language mavens who dislike reading non standard English.

More importantly however, is that there are many visually impaired people who use readers and this makes it damn near impossible to follow what is being said. IE " I slash i think You slash you are wrong when You slash you said I slash I"

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