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Tallnsassy -> Question to A Master (11/11/2006 1:56:12 PM)

recently I had a very interesting chat with someone who stated ..Dom/subs are just kinky vanillas..your opinion on this please



Padriag -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 1:58:51 PM)

For which there is no absolute answer.

For some being dom/sub is all about kink and fetishes, in which case it could be argued your statement is true.

For others being dominant/submissive is about something else and kinks are more incidental, in which case it could be argued your statement is untrue.

Bother are valid... depending on whom you are referring too.



KnightofMists -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 2:09:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tallnsassy

recently I had a very interesting chat with someone who stated ..Dom/subs are just kinky vanillas..your opinion on this please


I agree with Padriag.... It's a matter of perspective... rarely are absolutes statements of any value.



ownedgirlie -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 2:12:41 PM)

In that person's eyes, that's all they are. In someone else's eyes, they are much more.  My relationship to my Master is nothing like any "vanilla" relationship I have experienced, so what you were told does not in any way apply to me.  It may apply to someone else, however.



Ava82 -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 3:06:18 PM)

I consider Dom/sub a stepping stone to Master/slave.



slavejali -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 3:22:01 PM)

I agree with what's been said, it depends on your perspective.

For me all the fun and games are kink and nothing to do with domination or submission. (Well even that is not absolutely true when I think about it, cause even in playing, domination and submission plays itself out, it's just maybe exagerated in those times.)

The fabric of a D/s relationship itself though has everything to do with domination and submission and is very different from a vanilla relationship.

However, that being said, the "vanilla" relationships I've had in my life were also based on domination and submission but nothing to do with BDSM (kink).

I guess when I think about my personality and femininity itself and how they settle into a role within relationship, I'm always submissive(slave). When it comes to the fun and games I like to play, well those are my kinks.



BDSM05478 -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 6:00:13 PM)

so I totally disagree!! kinky vanilla is like Jumbo Shrimp, if your kinky vanilla, your closet bdsm, you just haven't evovled into the totally kinky you yet but you are WELL on your way....... did that come across correct?



beltainefaerie -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 6:35:46 PM)

BDSM05478, I totally agree. Kinky vanilla doesn't make any sense. I certainly get that there are more sex related aspects to S/m relationships and more relationship dynamic aspects and some people may get into some aspects over others, but none of it is vanilla.



windchymes -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 6:43:03 PM)

Sounds like an oxymoron to me.



mnottertail -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 6:55:54 PM)

There is now an oxymoron 2 that cleans even the deepest dinge from your soul.


FYI,
Mr. Clean
Proctor and Gambel



ownedgirlie -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 7:19:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

There is now an oxymoron 2 that cleans even the deepest dinge from your soul.


FYI,
Mr. Clean
Proctor and Gambel



[sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif]

But Madge, you're soaking in it...



DiurnalVampire -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 7:24:09 PM)

Well, if Doms/ subs are just kinky vaillas, I am doing something very wrong.  I hve no kink in my D/s relationship with angel yet.  I have service, control, obedience and loyalty, but no kink.
I guess I would have to disagree.
Though, in some instances, there are Doms and subs that ARE just kinky vanillas, and if the person in question was basing the opinion they had of the lifestyle on what they see in porn I could understand where that came from.  Bedroom D/s could seem like vanilla kink, I suppose.

DV



LordODiscipline -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 7:27:18 PM)

And, "a dead person is just a heart silenced living one"...
 
Seems silly when you see the rhetoric for what it is.
 
~J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tallnsassy

recently I had a very interesting chat with someone who stated ..Dom/subs are just kinky vanillas..your opinion on this please



Morrigel -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 7:33:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tallnsassy
recently I had a very interesting chat with someone who stated ..Dom/subs are just kinky vanillas..your opinion on this please


Sounds like the speaker was doing the typically immature deal where someone decides that one form of BDSM relationship or playstyle is "real" or "true" and everyone who does something different is an inferior wanna-be pretender of some kind.

I call this line of conversation TOTKI--The One True Kink.  Basically, the speaker wants you to think they just pulled their kink out of a stone and that Merlin is their bestest buddy.

Pretty much nothing you can say in a BDSM context that will make you sound more like a provincinl know-nothing dumbass than to whip out your TOTKI and start waving it around.

Just my opinion.

--M



mnottertail -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 7:37:13 PM)

i WAS ALWAYS facinated by that, and kinda had this fantasy that Madge was the Bounty wiper cleaner picker upper kinda gal........In my Yoot.

Marisa Tomei



ownedgirlie -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 7:59:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

i WAS ALWAYS facinated by that, and kinda had this fantasy that Madge was the Bounty wiper cleaner picker upper kinda gal........In my Yoot.

Marisa Tomei



You know, George Costanza, aka Art Vandalay loved Marisa Tomei...in her yoot. [:D]



BORAT -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 8:11:07 PM)

We not make such confusing distinction in Kazakhstan.  We have normal, pervert, and gypsy.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tallnsassy

recently I had a very interesting chat with someone who stated ..Dom/subs are just kinky vanillas..your opinion on this please



akisha -> RE: Question to A Master (11/11/2006 10:21:27 PM)

my relationship with my ex husband was pretty nilla with a bit of kink in the begining. Then went to just no sex at all. LOL

In both my vanilla relationships I was the one in control of everything and i grew to hate it and lose complete respect for my partner, and sex with someone you don't respect just doesn't work for me.

I don't agree that all people that practice some kink are closet BDSM'ers. but then again it would totally depend on how a person defines BDSM for themselves. For me it constitutes power exchange. It's a big part of it for me.

So really when i was with my ex, he would "play" at kink once in a while, I would not ever say our relationship held any aspect of BDSM.

But that's just my take on it *S*



MagiksSlave -> RE: Question to A Master (11/12/2006 12:05:40 AM)

LOL Kinky venilla, isnt that an oxyMoron???


Magik's slave



Focus50 -> RE: Question to A Master (11/12/2006 2:05:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tallnsassy

recently I had a very interesting chat with someone who stated ..Dom/subs are just kinky vanillas..your opinion on this please

Even in this technological age, empty vessels still make the most sound....
 
My girl hasta grow her hair below shoulder length and style it to my taste.
She hasta maintain her pubic hair in a neat "landing strip" style.
She hasta learn and obey my complex dress rules in public and private.
She hasta learn all my little idiosyncrosies and preferences re her general appearance and behaviour.
She hasta learn where and how to stand when I call her before me or wants something from me herself.
She hasta learn the differences in how to address me in private as opposed to being in public.
She hasta learn a myriad of other minor rules that don't come up everyday.
 
She hasta know and do all this and much more on a 24/7 basis and, so far, there hasn't been a rope, flogger or toy anywhere in sight and no-one has even taken their clothes off yet.  So much for kink; D/s is about *CONTROL* - at least, it is to me and anyone wanting to be accepted as *my* girl!
 
Focus.



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