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RE: Contracts - 11/15/2006 8:23:14 PM   
LaTigresse


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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Nah, I don't want to rescue ownie; in my yoot I could have, perhaps...but she is gonna have to walk over here now, I ain't got the steam.

LOL,
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Man, ain't that the truth.  Ron, have you noticed the days don't get shorter and the hills don't get lower?  Its a bitch, ain't it? (or as they say in Milwaukee, "aina-hey?"

LaTigresse:   Thats okay Ron, we will just have to get together someday around a campfire drinking and talking about the good old days.......... today I feel 94 instead of 44.

I will bring the bourbon.

Bourbon?  you BETTER invite ME, wench! 



Consider yourself invited........all this after one hot toddy with a liberal and I mean LIBERAL dose of MakersMark in a cuppa hot tea.....and Nyquil. Can we say nighty nite LeeAnn?!?!


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RE: Contracts - 11/15/2006 8:43:46 PM   
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I have a contract, though I do like the term covenant, as that is more accurate.  It helped us set out what everyone was comfortable with.  Master is definitely a man of his word and the contract is a reminder of our agreements.  My Love (husband) and I initially drafted the contract as to what would be acceptable and put any hard limits in place.  I was actually quite surprised at some of what was perfectly fine with him.  Next came the dialogue with my Master and His lady and made minor changes according to their parameters.  When everything was agreed upon, we all signed it.  We don't actually need to refer to it, as we all agreed to it.  There was a miscommunication on one point initially, but generally it has worked well for us.  The piece of paper is not important, but the dialogue and trust that forged it are incredibly important.  Even the miscommunication was minor, because we discussed it as soon as we realized it and it actually seemed to strengethen trust between all parties in the way it was dealt with.  Especially for my Love who is not part of the power exchange dynamic (except in "owning" my heart and allowing me to be slave to another), it was important to lay down what could and could not be done with his wife.  Anyway, that's what worked for us. 

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RE: Contracts - 11/15/2006 10:52:19 PM   
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I thought the idea of a slave "contract" (scare quotes, since it has no genuine legal validity whatsoever) was rather silly.  Then I read Miss Abernathy's book, which discussed in some detail exactly why such a document can be appealing and reassuring to a sub -- now I rather like the idea.


Writing out what you want, what you need, what behavior you expect as well as what you have to offer is incredibly helpful and reassuring to a slave. They like to know what the rules are, how they are to be applied and under what conditions. It creates a sense of security.

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RE: Contracts - 11/16/2006 4:47:44 AM   
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i personally dont beleive in them... but.. thatbeing said.. the ones you can print off area very good start for communicating.. and also thought provoking...i had never head of alot of hte stuff listed..so i researched...became alot more informed adn therefore was able to communicate with Master about hings we had never even thoght of...

contract no...a tool for exploration...oh my god yes


So although you don't actually use them, you used them as a reference point when starting out with your Master?  Hmmm....i wonder if others begining new relationships might find this useful as well.  Good point sunnydays.
 
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RE: Contracts - 11/16/2006 4:50:14 AM   
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So for those of you who do use contracts (or covenants)....do you find yourself updating these as you go along?  If so, what types of things do you change?
 
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RE: Contracts - 11/16/2006 5:28:18 AM   
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So for those of you who do use contracts (or covenants)....do you find yourself updating these as you go along?  If so, what types of things do you change?
 
DG


My Joe wrote our contract in great detail according to what we wanted out of our relationship. The ones you get offline weren't suitable in our opinion. We signed the first one in March when we first moved in together and we evaluate the contract every 3 months and will for the first year. After that we hope to have a much shorter contract that says exactly what we are about in as few as words as necessary. I love the idea of calling it a covenant and will have to tell him about that. 

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RE: Contracts - 11/16/2006 5:44:39 AM   
byule


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It seems in a mutual relationship whether that be of slave or sub. That respect will and should come into play. In the vanilla world a contract is a pre nupt. So you tell me if there is a contract for marriage and one partner is protecting his or her investment should there be a contract that is not as legally binding. But in most states if you are together long enough then you are considered married anyways.

Now the short version. To each there own.

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