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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 6:25:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: asilownsmyheart

In addition I didn't get on this site for the purpose of  preaching, although it seems to be heading there.  I didn't join to judge, condemn or criticize.  I signed on mainly to understand myself better. 
I believe as well that if a survey were taken many on CM would admit that they left church because they Couldn't don't see how a Christian could have a kink, and the kink was too strong to battle.  It is these people I think I can help. 


I seriously doubt that many BDSMer's left the church because they just couldn't reconcile whipping or golden showers with the teachings of  that "bitchin'', rad-dude from Nazareth.  If that were the case, as you've stated, an excessive number of young men who had transgressed against our Lord and Savior by the despicable act of Onanism (an action EXPLICITLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY condemned by scripture) would have rejected Christianity on the basis that "Yahweh could never love a dirty, soul-less masturbator, like myself." 

If this whole thread isn't a half-baked joke made by some flippant, acne-faced thirteen-year old, I'd have to say that you are one righteously confused individual...............especially for someone in your specific age demographic.



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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 8:07:59 AM   
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Welllllllllllll, the pro side is that he likes Sinatra.

The cons...........I am too lazy to type that all out.


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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 10:15:49 AM   
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Sinatra, what's not to like.  I've just recently discovered - thanks to Elsie Sutton and of course my Mistress - that what most women were viewing as needy and hard-up on my part was really my strong submissive side trying to express itself.  That quote by old Blue Eyes is a personal joke between my Mistress and I, when I told her I love her, which I said much to soon for any relationship, she didn't lose her cool.  What a wise and understanding woman.  Thanks for taking the time to comment on my post.  Good luck, God Bless.

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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 10:31:35 AM   
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You don't like me, I get that, you're not the first , you won't be the last.  You are obviously educated and a deep thinker.  That's why it seems so out of character for you to come here and continue to have these pissing matches with me. 
People living a lie are not happy, the gay marriage issue our society is dealing with is a prime example.  How many men spent their whole lives denying who they were, all because Christanity put shackles on them.  People surpress their kink for the same reason.
Their is a plan of salvation, put in place by God.  It hinges on the sacrifice of Christ and His shed blood.  In my opinion Acts 2:38 unlocks Scripture, God's plan of redemption established from the beginning of creation and reaching to the end of time.

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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 10:36:37 AM   
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You initiated this whole thread as a pissing match.  It's nice to see that hypocrisy is still held in high regard by the clergy these days.

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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 10:40:00 AM   
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That's a stretch

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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 10:48:27 AM   
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How so?  You don't think your initial post, which you later claimed was an attempt to "suck up"to your new mistress, was something other than the instigation of a pissing match?  Likewise, your brace of antagonistic replies?  By the way, unless that relationship has already ended, you might want to consider updating your profile which currently states you're looking for a new mistress.

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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 10:59:43 AM   
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May I borrow the soap box?
Check the forums, and I am sure LA could direct you.  There is a HUGE Christian kink movement. People are not leaving the church because ti doesnt embrace their kink as much as you seem to think. I am sure it is the same with other religions as well.
I dont know about anyone else, but I dont need saving. I have my own relationship with God, and whether or not I am refered to as Goddess is not going to change anything.
You are entitled to your own opinions, of course, but dont try and convince ayone else that yours is the right way. Especailly the way you have presented your arguments... Step back and think before writing. You now know how peple take your posts, and you certainly arent making any friends by tossing your "I'm ministry so I am holier than thou" attitude around.  I personally dont care what or who you are, whe you start shoving your beliefs down other peoples throats, it gets annoying.

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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 12:53:21 PM   
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I haven't read all of this thread because after 68 postings, it would simply take too much of my time, but i did read the initial thread and some of asilown's posts that have been interspersed throughout the thread.  My impression is that asilown is greatly disturbed about something. and he is using this forum to vent simply because it is available.  His real problem may be hooked to the original thread, where-in he stated that pro Dommes are really all amateurs.  Yeah, right.  But then it might be deeper than that.

At any rate, i'm going to put in my 2 cents worth in response to his initial post, even though many others have already taken fairly hefty swings at it.  Twenty years ago i met a pro Domme who i most definitely fell in love with.  Was She in love with me?  i am quite certain that the answer to that one is "NO!"  However, She was indeed something very special.  She was exceptional at Her craft, and knew virtually every facet of Female Domination, including a warehouse full of techniques to truly humble and ensnare a male.  Was that Her only goal with me?  To simply ensnare me?  i don't think so because She treated me differently than She treated others (at least She claimed that She did, and as trust is a fundamental part of a D/s relationship, i trusted Her implicitly). 

Yes, she charged me for sessions in Her dungeon, but we also talked dozens of times on the phone, and She never charged me a penny for any of those phone calls.  She sent me postcards when She went on vacation (!), and many letters telling me about some of the ways that She tormented others.  She also told me many times that She missed me, and loved having me in Her dungeon to play with.  My "tribute" was only about a third of the amount that She demanded from others because She understood that i was an underpaid government employee, and that satisfied Her.  Not once did i spend less than three hours with Her, and that was always Her choice, not mine.

On the other hand, i have spent time with a few other "pro Dommes" who couldn't tie a knot at all, let alone do it 1/5th as well as the Mistress that i loved, which would have been enough to class them as an expert.  i had never met anyone like Her before my first entry into Her dungeon, nor have i met anyone like Her since then, and i miss Her a great deal, but i screwed up royally and haven't been able to visit Her since our last encounter, 8 years ago.  She lives on the west coast while i am marooned in the middle of the island known simplistically as the midwest, a barren wasteland of conservatism and 19th century thought processes.  And after all this time, i still think about Her daily.  She was absolutely a professional Dominatrix, and was astoundingly good at all of Her skills, especially tying slaves or submissives up or whipping them exactly the right way.

And ultimately, SHE was the best Dominatrix in the world... in my opinion!!!  But that is precisely the point, isn't it?  We are all entitled to our own opinions about the people that we interact with and deal with.  But we are not entitled to make a carte blanche statement that insults a group as a whole.  That is bigotry, no matter what the sheep's clothing might look like.  It is wrong.  It is insensitive.  It is insincere.  It is hate-mongering.  It is narrow=minded to the n-th degree.  It is hypocritical.  And most significantly, it is totally unchristian.

i suppose that this is still not Shakespeare, but it is probably a wee bit more inspired than the writings of asilown, which seem to be deliberately aimed at contentiousness.  (i have to admit, i have my share of bigotries, too; for example, i am an "educational bigot" of sorts.  Modern "standards" in education, are waaaaay too low, and consequently benefit no one.  In my opinion, those who eschew a decent education and its rewards [which are not always monetary, believe me!], are short-changing themselves and cheating the world, as well as themselves, out of their real intellectual capabilities.  However, i am not so much of a bigot that i don't recognize and accept that some people have attained impressive levels of enlightenment without the help of a so-called formal higher education.  And i take my hat off to those people.  My Mistress, btw, was one of those people.  In fact, She was one of the mostly highly educated people that i have ever known, and She didn't spend a single day in college -- although to be fair, She has spent some time in college dormitories and has had lengthy conversations with college professors!  [ :D  i had been a college professor before defecting to the civilian government, so i taught Her about science while She taught me about people, which seemed to be a good trade for both of us.])

But i suppose in the long run, the best way to respond to people like asilown is not to put them down, but simply to ignore them like a piece of litter on the ground.  Of course, it is best to properly dispose of litter because if there is enough of it, even a beautiful lawn starts to look like a pigsty after a while.

As for me, i am having a bit of luck finding a new Domme -- finally -- to control and use me for Her personal benefit, and that really is what CM is all about, right?  But sharing opinions here is also a worthwhile adjunct to that, and even people like asilown have the right to an opinion, no matter how ill-conceived or irresponsibly presented.

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RE: Get over yourself! - 11/21/2006 1:29:19 PM   
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Dear Friends, never have I been put down with more eloquence and panache than here on CM. I'm honored with the amount of time some of you have obviously devoted to your replies. I believe Jesus was who He said He was.  If you consider that shoving my beliefs down your throat than so be it. 
Many Ministers would point to this site and condemn this it and everyone on it.  Perhaps while visiting it in the shadows.  I am surprised that you can't see a man attempting to remain true to Scripture while applying it to the reality of our human experience. 
As for my Mistress being better than your love interest, well that was indeed a poor choice of words.  Please forgive me if I offended you, I'm just a man head over heels in love. Your love interest may indeed be equal mine, but none are better.

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