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ShreveportMaster -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 2:11:51 PM)
ROTFL, Hmmm, wood thet bee 50 gold Reese's peeces? I reely dunt liake the gold ones that muech. U kin half themm, I'll took that there girlie type femail off'n yore hands though. And as a fellow Dominate (even though U ain't a feller) I'll even throwe in a beeeg hug, and a kiss on Ur purty lil noggin! Ah weesh U wel, Bubba (of Gor)

AquaticSub -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 2:30:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShreveportMaster ROTFL, Hmmm, wood thet bee 50 gold Reese's peeces? I reely dunt liake the gold ones that muech. U kin half themm, I'll took that there girlie type femail off'n yore hands though. And as a fellow Dominate (even though U ain't a feller) I'll even throwe in a beeeg hug, and a kiss on Ur purty lil noggin! Ah weesh U wel, Bubba (of Gor) Ahh.. but i'm not a Dominate. i'm one of those freaky half-breeds. Half-sub, half-Dom, kneeling with a flogger in hand! A freak of nature! But i suppose that will in a good exchange when i am done with her. giggles A redneck Gorean. That just makes me happy.

YourShyPet -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 2:33:54 PM)
Okay... I've been reading these boards for awhile now, and haven't really posted much but in reading this one the whole name protocol issue jumped out at me... Years ago my Trainer took me to a party just for a little voyeristic fun... towards the end of the night I was quite tired, and ended up in his lap... head on his shoulder drowzing... At the time a friend of his came up to talk to him... and because I was pretty out of it we were never formally introduced...Several months later I attended the party again, but not with my former Trainer... At about the middle part of the evening the man who I had previously sleepily been introduced too approached me and said... "Hello little slave girl"....I instantly became offended of his obvious assumption... and immediately let him as well as everyone else in earshot know not only how ignorant his assumption was but how offensive myself and possibly others could take them....He apologized like a gentleman, and we ended up spending a good two hours at a table discussing titles and assumptions... Our conclusion was that a title... nickname or other was inappropriate until the person has consented to it's usage. Pet

slavemaia -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 3:26:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirGordonslil [:)] just wondering... i have a Master, but often i find that when others contact me, because im submissive they expect me to be submissive to them also, ive found this in real time meetings also. i have respect for other Dom/mme's dont get me wrong but why do alot of Dom/mme's (yes i may be generalising and i appologise for doing so, am just making a point) expect you to submit to them when you dont even know them.. it tends to lose my respect for them as i feel its a lack of respect for my own Master as most times they dont even approach my Master first.. what are other Master's/Dom's opinions?[:D] ~~lil~~ Master and i have discussed this several times. Sadly, W/we are not involved in any kind of community or activity that adheres to generally agreed upon protocol. Personally i get off on them and think they bring an air of dignity to relationships and events. Yet, i am owned by only One and in that respect i find no obligation to obey or submit to anyone other than Chairman, unless He directs me to do so. Were i to be addressed as slave by any Dominant, Master or Mistress, i would not be offended in the least since that's what i am - a slave. To me it would be like being offended because someone called me by my name. But if They were to expect some type of obedience or submission i would not comply. i am Chairman's property and it's nothing other than rude to expect any type of use of another's property without permission from the Owner. There have been a few Dominants that i have treated with respect - addressing them as Sir or Ma'am because i knew them and respected them, but even there i never felt that i was to obey them or submit to them. i find the general lack of protocol sad. i've attended dungeon parties that basically felt like a "bar" environment in that anything goes and people are hitting (excuse the pun) on each other with basically little regard for ownership, or at the very most they just accept that i'm not available. But there is no protocol except don't use anyone's toys without permission. i guess that applies to subs and slaves too. lol. Maybe i should take up Marshall Arts - (to slavejali).

Najakcharmer -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 3:28:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub I don't have to play with Little Mast- I mean your greater Rod of Lordly Might? But I get to tickle her right? U MUST SHOW RESPECT FOR UR "LITTLE MASTER". IT IS A WHOLE THREE INCHES LONG. I MEAN IT IS A PLUS THREE ROD OF LORDLY MIGHT. BOW DOWN B4 UR MASTER. THEN U MAY TICKLE HER. quote: By the way... be careful not to stain your moniter. I am not scrubbing that stuff off... I CAN NOT USE MOMS COMPUTER TO POST ANY MORE BECAUS I AM GROUNDED 4 LOOKING AT NAUTY PICTURS ON TEH INTARNET AND MAKING KEYBORD STICKY. BUT U MUST STILL SUBMITE 2 ME BECAUS I AM TWUE MASTER WITH 20 YRS EXPERENCE IN REEL LIFE. OK?

Najakcharmer -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 3:33:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShreveportMaster ROTFL, Hmmm, wood thet bee 50 gold Reese's peeces? I reely dunt liake the gold ones that muech. U kin half themm, I'll took that there girlie type femail off'n yore hands though. And as a fellow Dominate (even though U ain't a feller) I'll even throwe in a beeeg hug, and a kiss on Ur purty lil noggin! Hey Bubba, Lord Master Blackthorn Nightdragon Deathclaw Bloodsmack the tenth level master assassin of Gor is definitely a feller. I occasionally channel strange spirits to speak on these boards. Either that or the annoying kid from next door must be borrowing my computer when I'm not looking. [8D]

MagiksSlave -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 3:51:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShreveportMaster ROTFL, Hmmm, wood thet bee 50 gold Reese's peeces? I reely dunt liake the gold ones that muech. U kin half themm, I'll took that there girlie type femail off'n yore hands though. And as a fellow Dominate (even though U ain't a feller) I'll even throwe in a beeeg hug, and a kiss on Ur purty lil noggin! Ah weesh U wel, Bubba (of Gor) OWW Sir that hurt my head to figure out!! Magik's slave

MagiksSlave -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 3:54:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub Even in friendly terms it simply doesn't make sense to me because I prefer to be addressed by a name, such as Aqua or a nickname. I don't mind, in fact I enjoy it, when my dominant calls me his little sub, but for another to refer to me as "submissive" or "slave" seems to confer a sense of ownership to me. You could always call me "Subbie A". Is it just me or does that sound like a bad rap name? Oh i love when Master calls me his little bratling but its a term of endearment not a term of conveniance!! Theres a difference Magik's slave Once I couldn't pick a beer and since he has better taste in beer then me (and knows what I like pretty well) I asked him to pick one for me. He tried to make me choose myself, as I have trouble on deciding things and he wants to correct that, but I explained I wasn't being indecisive, I just wanted to try something new and I wanted to defer to his knowledge. He grinned at me and said "All right, my little sub.". I glowed. Ohhhh yes I glow when he calls me that I dont know makes me feel specail and Loved... worm and fuzzy... like a kitten coverd in honey!! Magik's slave

daddysprop247 -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 4:10:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: i know my own Master doesn't want a slave whose submission can turn on and off like a light switch....so while no i'm not expected to serve everyone, in online situations i'm expected to be courteous and polite and in real life situations i'm expected to be submissive and obedient always (to Men that is). Your post seems to imply that if one does not behave submissively to all dominant men and/or women, then we are turning our submission on and off like a light switch, and I must disagree with such an assumption. My submission to my Master remains on, and intensely so, always. In that submission, I have been trained to view other individuals as equals to me, despite their make-up and/or orientation. He views a girl's submission as much more valuable to him if not offered freely to others. My submission does not "turn on and off" by any means. Edited to add an additional thought. owned...by "on and off like a light switch", i wasn't referring to one's submission to one's Dominant or Master. i would assume that for most people, they are always submissive to the one who Owns or claims them. what i meant was being submissive to One, or to certain Ones, and being very much un-submissive to others. some Masters demand this very thing from their submissives or slaves...as you say, your Master has trained you to view all others as equals to you. well my Master is different, for him, if i were to submissive to him but then unsubmissive with everyone else, that would be turning my submission on and off, which is something he finds very undesireable. so he has trained me to be submissive to all Men, Dominant or not, and to only view other slaves as my equals.

nikaa -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 4:15:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirGordonslil [:)] just wondering... i have a Master, but often i find that when others contact me, because im submissive they expect me to be submissive to them also, ive found this in real time meetings also. i have respect for other Dom/mme's dont get me wrong but why do alot of Dom/mme's (yes i may be generalising and i appologise for doing so, am just making a point) expect you to submit to them when you dont even know them.. it tends to lose my respect for them as i feel its a lack of respect for my own Master as most times they dont even approach my Master first.. what are other Master's/Dom's opinions?[:D] ~~lil~~ I am ALWAYS expected to be respectful and tactful. However, those things are often based on personal perception and what is consicered respectful and tactful may also vary due to circumstance. When in doubt I always trie to err on the side of caution. IF I am simply online and I receive an email or instant message from a Dom/me I am not required to adress them by a title such as Master, Mistress, Sir,or Ma'am. However, there are a handful of peolple that I do adress by those titles because in my eyes that is a sign of respect. On the other side, I do NOT expect submissives or slaves that contact me or meet me to call me by a given title other than my name (Nika). Unless we are in a high protocal situation. In real life, however; there are times that high protocal is demanded. During those times those present with be adressed by the approriate title. I do not feel like I am submitting to everyone in doing this, I am submitting to my owner, his wishes, his demands. I also see a HUGE difference between saying ,"may I get you a drink Master/Mistress" and saying, "may I get you a drink my Master." In high protocal sitations this is how I make a distinction between adressing my Master and other Dominants present. During these situations if a Dom/me would adress me as slave, I would honored and in truth I would probably blush a bit. I am slave. Perhaps not their slave but I am slave none the less and to me that title is an honor not an insult even coming form the mouth of a Dom/me.

LadyHugs -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 5:30:56 PM)
Dear AquaticSub, Ladies and Gentlemen; As to your comments, in which you did not considered dominants getting unwanted/unsolicited submission, I can only say from my personal experiences, I felt like I was some bait for a buzzard. I would be sitting and they be standing or circle me like I was prey. This would happen often right after a scene. I do realize some are extremely eager and well meaning and some see the opportunity to be 'done' like I was a service TOP. Having lost my figure, I'm aged; it has nipped a lot of that buzzard behavior--unless its something else that draws them to me, then I enjoy those who approach me, as I do enjoy meeting new individuals. These days, those who do come to me just want to meet me. I am eager to meet them as well. I will also say, that I am rather poor at remembering names. I do meet a lot of people and when you may have 20 Davids, 18 Edwards, etc., its going to take me a bit of constant interaction to get the name right. Name tags do help! Color codes help! -- But, not everybody and or organization does that. But, I will say--a distinctive name, such as "Aqua" would help as it is unique. I've also adapted to the current climate in the BDSM community, as to make my introductions and asking how someone wishes to be addressed. It is my experience, that people who try to 'get it right' as to address one another in their preferred title, are greeted with patience and gentle help in getting accustom to being addressed as they so choose. I also practice patience with others in getting my name close to right. What is important though, is that the majority of those you (in general) interact with; want to never devalue and or degrade and or to humiliate or make light of one another. Respectfully submitted for consideration, Lady Hugs

AquaticSub -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 5:35:24 PM)
on quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: i know my own Master doesn't want a slave whose submission can turn on and off like a light switch....so while no i'm not expected to serve everyone, in online situations i'm expected to be courteous and polite and in real life situations i'm expected to be submissive and obedient always (to Men that is). Your post seems to imply that if one does not behave submissively to all dominant men and/or women, then we are turning our submission on and off like a light switch, and I must disagree with such an assumption. My submission to my Master remains on, and intensely so, always. In that submission, I have been trained to view other individuals as equals to me, despite their make-up and/or orientation. He views a girl's submission as much more valuable to him if not offered freely to others. My submission does not "turn on and off" by any means. Edited to add an additional thought. owned...by "on and off like a light switch", i wasn't referring to one's submission to one's Dominant or Master. i would assume that for most people, they are always submissive to the one who Owns or claims them. what i meant was being submissive to One, or to certain Ones, and being very much un-submissive to others. some Masters demand this very thing from their submissives or slaves...as you say, your Master has trained you to view all others as equals to you. well my Master is different, for him, if i were to submissive to him but then unsubmissive with everyone else, that would be turning my submission on and off, which is something he finds very undesireable. so he has trained me to be submissive to all Men, Dominant or not, and to only view other slaves as my equals. I gotta say... that just sounds like a bad idea to me. Sumbitting to all men can be rather dangerous. Would you hop into a stranger's car just because he was a man or see there a point where you will tell a man to fuck off? Just curious. By the way, where do submissive women stand on the equal/superior thing? Because if you only consider slaves to be your equal, then a good percentage of BDSM are above you. I can't speak for every submissive but I don't care for being thought of a slave. It's just not what I am.

ShreveportMaster -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 5:42:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer quote: ORIGINAL: ShreveportMaster ROTFL, Hmmm, wood thet bee 50 gold Reese's peeces? I reely dunt liake the gold ones that muech. U kin half themm, I'll took that there girlie type femail off'n yore hands though. And as a fellow Dominate (even though U ain't a feller) I'll even throwe in a beeeg hug, and a kiss on Ur purty lil noggin! Hey Bubba, Lord Master Blackthorn Nightdragon Deathclaw Bloodsmack the tenth level master assassin of Gor is definitely a feller. I occasionally channel strange spirits to speak on these boards. Either that or the annoying kid from next door must be borrowing my computer when I'm not looking. [8D] Grins, well if you ever decide to become a puddy tat, I've got a warm lap, and fingernails on My right hand just the right length to get that "spot" under your chin. [:D] Oh, and just in case anyone missed it, Lord High grand exalted crud or whatever his name is was intended to be humorous. Those of us who live by the Philosophy would, and regualrly do throw such trolls out on their bohunkuses. Najak did a wonderful job impersonating an HNG though!(That's Horny-Not-Gorean) I wish you well, Shreve

AquaticSub -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 5:50:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHugs Dear AquaticSub, Ladies and Gentlemen; As to your comments, in which you did not considered dominants getting unwanted/unsolicited submission, I can only say from my personal experiences, I felt like I was some bait for a buzzard. I would be sitting and they be standing or circle me like I was prey. This would happen often right after a scene. I do realize some are extremely eager and well meaning and some see the opportunity to be 'done' like I was a service TOP. Having lost my figure, I'm aged; it has nipped a lot of that buzzard behavior--unless its something else that draws them to me, then I enjoy those who approach me, as I do enjoy meeting new individuals. These days, those who do come to me just want to meet me. I am eager to meet them as well. I will also say, that I am rather poor at remembering names. I do meet a lot of people and when you may have 20 Davids, 18 Edwards, etc., its going to take me a bit of constant interaction to get the name right. Name tags do help! Color codes help! -- But, not everybody and or organization does that. But, I will say--a distinctive name, such as "Aqua" would help as it is unique. I've also adapted to the current climate in the BDSM community, as to make my introductions and asking how someone wishes to be addressed. It is my experience, that people who try to 'get it right' as to address one another in their preferred title, are greeted with patience and gentle help in getting accustom to being addressed as they so choose. I also practice patience with others in getting my name close to right. What is important though, is that the majority of those you (in general) interact with; want to never devalue and or degrade and or to humiliate or make light of one another. Respectfully submitted for consideration, Lady Hugs I really feel silly for not thinking about it, but it just never occured to me. Not that I was thinking dominants wouldn't be getting unwanted attention. It just never really hit me, if you understand what I mean. I do believe you are right though. As long as one is honest in their intentions not to offend, then really no harm as been committed. As a general rule anyway. I simply call people by their name until they ask me to do otherwise. However, if I can not remember it, then I normally apologize, ask for forgiveness and ask to have it repeated to me again.

Najakcharmer -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 5:55:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShreveportMaster Grins, well if you ever decide to become a puddy tat, I've got a warm lap, and fingernails on My right hand just the right length to get that "spot" under your chin. [:D] Kitty likes back scritches a lot, but anyone reaching for my throat tends to trigger feral reactions that don't involve purring. So no chin scritches for this kitty. quote: Oh, and just in case anyone missed it, Lord High grand exalted crud or whatever his name is was intended to be humorous. Those of us who live by the Philosophy would, and regualrly do throw such trolls out on their bohunkuses. Najak did a wonderful job impersonating an HNG though!(That's Horny-Not-Gorean) Eh, the parody wasn't intended to make fun of actual Goreans. But I'm sure you've seen more than your share of Lord Master High Assassins of the Black Caste of Gor, so you know who I am making fun of. [:D] - Naja

ownedgirlie -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 5:57:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: i know my own Master doesn't want a slave whose submission can turn on and off like a light switch....so while no i'm not expected to serve everyone, in online situations i'm expected to be courteous and polite and in real life situations i'm expected to be submissive and obedient always (to Men that is). Your post seems to imply that if one does not behave submissively to all dominant men and/or women, then we are turning our submission on and off like a light switch, and I must disagree with such an assumption. My submission to my Master remains on, and intensely so, always. In that submission, I have been trained to view other individuals as equals to me, despite their make-up and/or orientation. He views a girl's submission as much more valuable to him if not offered freely to others. My submission does not "turn on and off" by any means. Edited to add an additional thought. owned...by "on and off like a light switch", i wasn't referring to one's submission to one's Dominant or Master. i would assume that for most people, they are always submissive to the one who Owns or claims them. what i meant was being submissive to One, or to certain Ones, and being very much un-submissive to others. some Masters demand this very thing from their submissives or slaves...as you say, your Master has trained you to view all others as equals to you. well my Master is different, for him, if i were to submissive to him but then unsubmissive with everyone else, that would be turning my submission on and off, which is something he finds very undesireable. so he has trained me to be submissive to all Men, Dominant or not, and to only view other slaves as my equals. I understand what you are saying now. Thank you for clarifying. I was once trained as you are - to submit to men in general. It proved to be very destructive to me, and Master spent a lot of effort working with me to repair such damages. It was not an easy thing for me to learn. Since I am forced into a world where I must often stand and fend for myself, he has taught me to channel him and stand strong when I must. I respect where you're coming from, and appreciate your reply.

LadyHugs -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 6:01:09 PM)
Dear AquaticSub, Ladies and Gentlemen; I would not say it is silly, not to have thought of the dominants having unsolicited submission and the like. The whole community and lifestyle is a patch quilt per se, as there is so much variety about and or exposure to things. Individual's intent, what is their spirit in their approach is really the issue, regardless of roles and so much of what is read by others; is due in part to what those reading another's intentions perceive and or assume. This is why communication is so very important. Each region, each group and experience will be different. However, we do belong to ONE, which is ourself. Then we find another, then that can be transferred to another making an "The One for me/us." It is that sense of belonging to one, to a group, to a community and such. Respectfully submitted for consideration, Lady Hugs

daddysprop247 -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 6:16:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub I gotta say... that just sounds like a bad idea to me. Sumbitting to all men can be rather dangerous. Would you hop into a stranger's car just because he was a man or see there a point where you will tell a man to fuck off? Just curious. By the way, where do submissive women stand on the equal/superior thing? Because if you only consider slaves to be your equal, then a good percentage of BDSM are above you. I can't speak for every submissive but I don't care for being thought of a slave. It's just not what I am. AquaticSub...you're right, at least as far as status is concerned, the great majority of people are above me, D/s, bdsm, or vanilla. however, Daddy says i do rank somewhat higher than our cat Scooter. ;) for me, that is a comfort. i am proud to be a slave and especially proud to be HIS slave. but it's certainly not a path for everyone. to respond to your first point....there's no point where i would ever tell anyone, male or female, to just "f*** off". i'm not allowed to ever present myself in such a manner...it would be disrespectful to my Master. about hopping in some stranger's car if told to do so, if out alone yes i probably would, as that is what my Master has trained me to do. however such a scenario could never occur for a multitude of reasons, the primary one being the fact that just because my Master has trained me to be non-resistant and submissive to all as he has, he is extra protective of me and places many restrictions on me...such as not going anywhere alone, not answering the door, etc.

slavejali -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 6:21:32 PM)
quote: Daddy says i do rank somewhat higher than our cat You've got it good, I'm way below Masters dog....dang [;)]

ownedgirlie -> RE: belong to One not all (11/20/2006 6:23:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slavejali quote: Daddy says i do rank somewhat higher than our cat You've got it good, I'm way below Masters dog....dang [;)] Chuckles that was made very clear to me, also. If it is my Master's companion, I am below it.

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