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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/20/2006 6:52:59 PM   
Padriag


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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

OK Sir lemme clear it up a little bettter.. he said it in a very condisending nasty way that I didnt apreaciate... I was not rude to him infact I very politely asked if he had a problem with my Master switching i also then informed him it was OUR relationship and not really his busyness to judge it.

Ah, well tone of voice makes all the difference then.  Its amazing how much we communicate nonverbally (and which tends to get lost online).  But it being the case that he was clearly being derisive I'm kinda with Tikkiee... I'd have punched him!   On a more serious, and practical, note I agree with KoM.  This person's behavior was neither that of a master or a gentleman and therefore there was little need to respond to him as either.  You probably did the best thing you could, which was to remove yourself from the immediate situation.  My only remaining advice would be that since its over with and this person no longer poses any form of "threat" to you, to simply forget it and let it go.  It doesn't seem worth dwelling on and he certainly doesn't warrant the attention or waste of energy.

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/20/2006 8:13:46 PM   
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I've got nothing to say on the dynamics that played other than to say, "That guy seems like a loser." In regards to anyone disrespecting my Master in any way, I would tear them to shreds.



I would too if I thought he would keep me after that. He would disapprove strongly of my defending him over a verbal petty comment in a BDSM venue. It is not that the desire would not be there to do so, but I have been told that under no uncertain terms he handles these things, and if he is not right there then the DM does. But that is just my dynamic, and majikslave knows her own protocol that her master demands of her, which if he is anything like mine he would not like her to tear anyone to shreds for "disrespecting" him. It depends on what the rules are for a person how they should respond. I think my Daddy would feel I had disrespected him for not following what he demands of me, he has very few rules, and this is one of the few he felt was necessary to lay down for me right from the start.

If that is the case then majiksSlave acted just right.

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/20/2006 8:21:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

bsss
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Did you consider going to the dungeon master and asking they have a talk with him?

I probably would have looked him up and down like he was some disgusting insect I could easily crush with my shoe and turn my back on him... a look I perfected from my cocktail waitress days when drunk men would make crude comments to me and I could not do anything about it.


I didnt go to the DM.. I dont even know if their is one at Paddles as the owner is always their with his girls.. but Im the shy sort that isnt good with takeing problems to the power that be they make me nervouse... I would also feel bad if the giy got in trouble dont ask why even if someone has done something bad to me i dont like to see them in trouble.., my head is screwed on wrong I think!!

Magik's slave


The owner is technically the Dungeon Master ... and his lil girls will toss you out on your ass just as  fast .. and personally I know a few Masters and Doms who would have followed suit if you were in any trouble what so ever from this Dom . all you need do is ask someones help or assistance ....

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/20/2006 8:23:22 PM   
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I would have wanted to tear him to shreds also, but I know for a fact that if I was to do that, Master would most likely tear me to shreds. Though, I am quite good at verbally ripping someone a new ass; and Master gives me free reign on that



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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/20/2006 8:51:24 PM   
MagiksSlave


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ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

bsss
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Did you consider going to the dungeon master and asking they have a talk with him?

I probably would have looked him up and down like he was some disgusting insect I could easily crush with my shoe and turn my back on him... a look I perfected from my cocktail waitress days when drunk men would make crude comments to me and I could not do anything about it.


I didnt go to the DM.. I dont even know if their is one at Paddles as the owner is always their with his girls.. but Im the shy sort that isnt good with takeing problems to the power that be they make me nervouse... I would also feel bad if the giy got in trouble dont ask why even if someone has done something bad to me i dont like to see them in trouble.., my head is screwed on wrong I think!!

Magik's slave


The owner is technically the Dungeon Master ... and his lil girls will toss you out on your ass just as  fast .. and personally I know a few Masters and Doms who would have followed suit if you were in any trouble what so ever from this Dom . all you need do is ask someones help or assistance ....


Funny enought Tamer Sir you probubly know the guy Im talking about or at least have seen him he is a regular in the club another reason I hesitated to cause trouble, and while the owner seems like a nice guy and his girls are always nice to me (mostly because I look like a lost puppy wondering around the place if Im not emediatly in tow of Master LOL) I just feel uncomfertable to go and talk to them.. the best I can explain it is going back to middle ages and the untouchables how they werent aloud to talk with the other classes.. Well I guess I feel unworthy and shy and could never bring myself to bother them with my petty problems...but the reason I cant simply forget this is because he is a regular and this does have a potential of happening again not to mention this isnt the first run in I have had with this same man!!! And honestly he is very kreepy!!! He makes me uncomfertable uneasy and makes me feel unsafe and then he went and verbally attact my only real defence in the club my Master... As much as it is Masters job to keep me safe i feel the same need to protect him (like I said Momma bear) OK im just rambling now!!

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/20/2006 9:15:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

((I was held down and paddled naked against my will))

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I know we don't know enough all that well yet, but may I offer you my sword collection to avenge yourself with? No means no, I don't give a damn what position you claim in life.

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/20/2006 9:24:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

((I was held down and paddled naked against my will))

Magik's slave


I know we don't know enough all that well yet, but may I offer you my sword collection to avenge yourself with? No means no, I don't give a damn what position you claim in life.


Oh I said no and when my panties came down I shot up to pull them back but the Dom i was with (He wasnt my Dom just a so called Dom that took me to the club and he was going to "protect me" I thought he was a friend) Pushed me back down and help me so yeah it was bad... but I didnt know any better I was new and for all I knew this was how it was suposed to be there... I didnt go back for over a year!! Master has said he is going to sometime soon try and scene with me in that corner (the one it took place in that I refuse to go near because it makes me panic) So that nothing no fear holds me back in the club Im scared but I trust Master and he said he wouldnt do it till I was more comfertable in the club. but I dont know if Ill ever feel safe there if Master isnt in  clinging distance!!

Magik's slave

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/20/2006 9:41:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

((I was held down and paddled naked against my will))

Magik's slave


I know we don't know enough all that well yet, but may I offer you my sword collection to avenge yourself with? No means no, I don't give a damn what position you claim in life.


Oh I said no and when my panties came down I shot up to pull them back but the Dom i was with (He wasnt my Dom just a so called Dom that took me to the club and he was going to "protect me" I thought he was a friend) Pushed me back down and help me so yeah it was bad... but I didnt know any better I was new and for all I knew this was how it was suposed to be there... I didnt go back for over a year!! Master has said he is going to sometime soon try and scene with me in that corner (the one it took place in that I refuse to go near because it makes me panic) So that nothing no fear holds me back in the club Im scared but I trust Master and he said he wouldnt do it till I was more comfertable in the club. but I dont know if Ill ever feel safe there if Master isnt in  clinging distance!!

Magik's slave


You really should have said something to somone. That violates all the rules...

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/20/2006 9:44:04 PM   
MagiksSlave


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

((I was held down and paddled naked against my will))

Magik's slave


I know we don't know enough all that well yet, but may I offer you my sword collection to avenge yourself with? No means no, I don't give a damn what position you claim in life.


Oh I said no and when my panties came down I shot up to pull them back but the Dom i was with (He wasnt my Dom just a so called Dom that took me to the club and he was going to "protect me" I thought he was a friend) Pushed me back down and help me so yeah it was bad... but I didnt know any better I was new and for all I knew this was how it was suposed to be there... I didnt go back for over a year!! Master has said he is going to sometime soon try and scene with me in that corner (the one it took place in that I refuse to go near because it makes me panic) So that nothing no fear holds me back in the club Im scared but I trust Master and he said he wouldnt do it till I was more comfertable in the club. but I dont know if Ill ever feel safe there if Master isnt in  clinging distance!!

Magik's slave


You really should have said something to somone. That violates all the rules...


Yeah I know but I was scared and stupid and honestly Im easy to take advantage up because id rather suffer in silence then make a scene or upset others

Magik's slave

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/22/2006 11:40:58 AM   
Mavis


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Status: offline 		i wonder if this reaction isn't more common than it should be, i kind of think you might run into it a bit.  i'd practice a definate  :: blink ::  followed by "wow, that was incredibly disrespectful."   and let them just saute in that for a bit.  i wouldn't qualify it further than that, some will apologise right away, and some might not get it for a while.  Getting used to the idea that some Masters also bottom or even sub isn't a given.

i kind of think there is an allowance for the first time to see a new thing, and i know i might have made the same error if i SAW switching before i understood it.  Maybe His reaction was just plain ignorance, and that reminds me of the first time i read about fire-play.  If i had seen it live before i learned about it, i know i would have said, "What the Fuck!  He's burning that girl!"  and run for the nearest DM.    <giggles>


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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/22/2006 11:45:01 AM   
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Yeah I know but I was scared and stupid and honestly Im easy to take advantage up because id rather suffer in silence then make a scene or upset others

Magik's slave

Magik, can you please work on cutting out all the past postings and keep only the last reply you are responding to?  Thanks.

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/22/2006 11:53:14 AM   
MagiksSlave


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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

Yeah I know but I was scared and stupid and honestly Im easy to take advantage up because id rather suffer in silence then make a scene or upset others

Magik's slave

Magik, can you please work on cutting out all the past postings and keep only the last reply you are responding to?  Thanks.


HUH???

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/22/2006 1:48:35 PM   
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Magik, can you please work on cutting out all the past postings and keep only the last reply you are responding to?  Thanks.


HUH???


She is essentially asking you to limit the quoting that your doing.  Instead of quoting the whole post... limited it to the most important points.  If everyone quoted the entire post of what people reply to... the threads would get very long very fast... and before long... you wouldn't have a collarme site to post on.

IE... note how I cut out part of the post that shows in your reply to lucky

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/22/2006 2:58:26 PM   
MagiksSlave


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Status: offline 		Ohhh Ok Ill see about figureing out how to do that... Thank you KOM Sir for clearing that up for me.. Sorry for the inconveninace!

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/24/2006 4:46:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		K I'm a little confused. This guy comes up seeing that you're attentive to and possibly assisting with a scene in progress. He touches you to get your attention. Makes a rather boorish request then when told you're owned is disrespectful to you, your master and the propriety that most of us prefer to go by (don't touch other people's toys). You realize that this person non-consentually assaulted you previously and is apparently attempting to do it again and you're worried about him getting in trouble?
Am I with you so far? Just a thought because it seems that you did handle yourself well in the situation not only by announcing you're owned, and removing yourself from the situation. What would you say to another sub that his did this to? You have knowledge of this guy's MO, the fact that after over a year it's gotten worse not better and by not letting the owner of the club know what happened both before and now you're allowing it to happen to someone else. What would YOU have said to someone that knew his MO and didn't warn you? Food for thought, talk to your master and drop the club owner a call. What they do with it is up to them.

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/24/2006 4:50:15 PM   
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i kind of think there is an allowance for the first time to see a new thing, and i know i might have made the same error if i SAW switching before i understood it. 

I get your point but this guy's being a tool not ignorant. Well ok maybe an ignorant tool but it's an on purpose thing.

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/26/2006 6:18:04 PM   
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Did you consider going to the dungeon master and asking they have a talk with him?



I think that'd be out of a DM's jurisdiction.

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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/26/2006 6:29:30 PM   
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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/26/2006 6:59:56 PM   
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((sighs))


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RE: Disrepecting my Master - 11/26/2006 7:18:32 PM   
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he then told me I should be with a real Dom...


Actually, yeah.  I am not a switch, but I dont always appear to be the one in control when my pet and I go out.  Angel isnt out about our relationship in that way, so we stay pretty wel under teh radar. Onine (obviously) we are outspoken.  When I hadnt put his name into my profile, and he had, back before he was properly collared... He was aproached by another Domme who told him he should be with a "True Dominant Woman" and not with me.  His reply was simple. If she isnt one, if you happen to bump into a True Dominant Woman at some point, introduce me... Id love to meet Her.

Short and sweet, if they feel it necessary to tel you how real they are, its becasue they have to hear it to remember. Id just let it go in one ear and out the other, like any other people, some just have WAY too high a view of themselves to realize what jackasses they come off as.

DV

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