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BitaTruble -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 2:26:48 PM)

Basically, I think of being monogamous as being married to one person and only one person. Since I could happily have several husbands and wives, I guess that means I'm not monogamous. :) That said, Himself and I don't have sexual intercourse outside of our marriage (though we will both engage in S/m activities with other people) and I would have zero issues if he did have sex or allowed me to do so.

I enjoying connection with others on several levels: sex is one, intimacy is another, intellectual a third and so on and so forth and I still maintain hope that Himself will have a commune one day. :)

Celeste




akisha -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 2:51:03 PM)

Well hmm, Lets see.

I have been in a relationship where i did cheat and had absolutely no qualms or guilt about doing so. Pretty much sums up the relationship I think *S*

In my marriage in the begining even tho I would have been into an open relationship he did not believe in them so i honoured his feelings on that. At the end of the relationship I was tempted to cheat but I didn't as I did not want to do that to him. As I feel honesty and integrety are very important. More so to yourself then to anyone else. As you have to live with your actions.

In my current relationship, it's funny but I have no desire to be with anyone else, but if He was interested in bringing in a third for play I probably wouldn't be apposed to that either. I also don't obsess over whether or not he wants to be with someone else. If he does, well truthfully i have no control over that, I only have control over my response to it.

I believe you can be poly monogomous, absolutely.




adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 4:26:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kalira

Hmm, interesting.

When Master and I first started talking, he had told me that he did not mind if I was with others; as long as he knew about the relationships. Early on, I had let it be known that I had no desire to seek out others and that I would not do so unless he was with me. NOw, this was MY decision, not his. Since then, the subject has not come up again ( the subject being me looking for others ), yet, if it did, my answer would still remain the same. I have no desire to be with others unless it is something that he decides to arrange.

 
So if by chance you did end up being with someone else (whether your Master was present or not, but with his permission)....would you consider yourself monogamous?  i could assume by other answers here that you would....but i don't really want to assume [:D]
 
DG




adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 4:29:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: behindmirrors

My Dom is the only male I will be with in any sexual way in our relationship. Period.
Since I am bisexual, though, he has given me more or less free reign to find a girl to play with- as long as I tell him first and obtain his permission. Thus far, I have not played with anyone else. He is also looking to arrange this for me at some point, since he knows I miss being with a girl sometimes, and, well, he just simply finds it hot.
Do I consider our relationship monogamous? Yes. I do, at least for now. It is the only serious and committed relationship I have and will have. I'm not sure if my view of that will change or not when I actually do find myself playing with another girl, but I guess an update will be necessary when it happens. [;)]

behindmirrors.


If this happens and your views change, yes, please update  (either way)  [&:]
 
DG




adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 4:32:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

It means we do not have sex with, play with, date, cyber with, phone sex with, anyone else.
 
That's pretty much how i see it too.


People can watch him beat me and play with me on a St Andrew's cross ... smiles

He likes the idea of whipping me in public, but he will not have sex with me in front of others. I consider us monogamous.

Do the two of you go to the clubs?
 
DG







adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 4:41:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

like the one dom you spoke to I can play with others in non sexual fashions like flogging and spanking I may even orgasm by my own hand with no help from them, but I may not suck their dick fuck them or have them fuck me, or put any parts of them into or on me.


So you are saying no type of intercourse, oral sex, or fingering of any type? 
 
DG




adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:04:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Monogamy for me means that there is an expectation that the people involved will only have an intimate relationship with eachother.

Ahhh.  i think that whenever i have referred to intimacy, for me it involved both the physical and emotional aspects.  If that were the case, i would have to say this is me too.....BUT..... 

Anything but intimate- it's not the act, it's the emotions and intent.  They can fuck em, suck em, beat em, talk to em or hug em- as long as they don't form an intimate relationship.

By intimate then, you are only talking about the emotional aspect here?

I am not at all monogamous.  Even if I do ever choose to be intimate with just one person, there will NEVER be an expectation of monogamy for anyone.

i have to admit, i am a little confused here.  Monogamy means you will only have an intimate (emotional)relationship with one person, but you are not into that.  But if you did choose to be intimate (emotionally connected, let's say)  with one person, there will be no expectation of monogamy....in what sense, the physical?
 
Sorry LA, you lost me here.  i'm just not grasping your difference between monogamy and intimacy in the emotional vs physical sense.
 
See....this is what happens when ya work all day...it deadens the brain cells....lol.
 
In any event, it looks like there might also need to be some distinction made when people use the term 'intimacy'...or being intimate....as well as monogamy.  i think that might mean different things to different people as well.  Hmmm...
 
DG







sophia37 -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:12:50 PM)

I had to learn all this by experience. So what does monogamy mean in your partnership?  Ive learned that I am by nature monogamus. Meaning I can really only "love" (in a heterosexual and sexual way) only one man at a time.

What is the extent that others can be involved but you are still considered monogamous? In my life, there are now three. Myself and two men. I have been married to the first for 25 years. But I have become what I consder "faithful" to the other man of three years. I consider myself monagamus to man number two. Although I am married to man number one. So a piece of paper does not enter into this as in, a marriage certificate. Paper does not monogamy make.

If you do consider your relationship monogamous but do include others, would there be a limit as to how far that can go before you feel the 'monogamy line' has been crossed?   Yes. I cannot take on a third lover. There is not enough of me to go around. I feel the need to zero in on one person at a time. Its an act of creation. I have come to the end of my abilty to "create" with man number one. So I sink my desire to love and create in man number two. Its a soul survival issue.





adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:16:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I can't prove this and have done no formal studies, but I think it's difficult to find monogamous people in the lifestyle.  This is only my experience from talking to others.   But it seems like a "poly" or let's bring in another for "play" is the usual case.


It has been my experience that it is difficult to find monogamy...as i mean it anyways....in the lifestyle.  They are out there (as that is the only type that i have been involved with)....but they truly are hard to come by. 
 
So based on your statement Katy, i wonder what monogamy means to you
 
DG




adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:22:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissUnleaded

Succinct and to the point. 

The same goes for us.



Would you engage in play between yourselves in a public setting?
 
DG




adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:26:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: smilezz

I am monogamous sexually with/to Thorns only.  He does not share me with anyone.  Then again, i have no desire for any other Man either.  There is a particular Person that He may allow me to scene with, if i asked, but only for the sake of feeling a new sensation or toy.  There would never be any type of fluid exchange whatsoever in this either. 

~smilezz~


This kind of sounds like what Feline was referring to. 
 
So you say no sex, no fluid exchange.  And that would include with other females?
 
DG




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:32:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl
So what does monogamy mean in your partnership? 

For us, monogamy means we do not interact romatically or sexually with anyone outside the relationship. We are in a one on one relationship, by my choice, and we both prefer it that way.
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What is the extent that others can be involved but you are still considered monogamous?

Both of us have friends of the opposite gender we are very close to. We are both very physical with those friends, kisses hello and goodbye, hugs and things of that nature.  While I would raise an eyebrow at sharing a bed with someone else if we stayed at their house (I have done it, though, platonically), I dont think that would necessarily cros my line either.  However, playing with someone else, sceneing with them, and anything sexual would most definately cause issues.
 
 
My 2 cents, hope it helped
DV




Kalira -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:33:18 PM)

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So if by chance you did end up being with someone else (whether your Master was present or not, but with his permission)....would you consider yourself monogamous?  i could assume by other answers here that you would....but i don't really want to assume [:D]

Well darn. Umm, if I was to go by what I think of as monogamy, then no. In my mind it means no sex with others lol. I do not seperate the physical from the emotional.

Now, if I was to never be with another but Master was...then I would consider MYSELF to be monogamous.




MysticFireTopaz -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:37:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl



So what does monogamy mean in your partnership? 
What is the extent that others can be involved but you are still considered monogamous?

If you do consider your relationship monogamous but do include others, would there be a limit as to how far that can go before you feel the 'monogamy line' has been crossed? 


I am not in a monogamous relationship right now, but when I was, the boundary line was sexual interaction with others.  Playing with others was okay (if the sub got My permission first--I didn't need his), but any type of sex was off limits.
 
Lady Topaz




adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:39:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mstrjx

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I can't prove this and have done no formal studies, but I think it's difficult to find monogamous people in the lifestyle.  This is only my experience from talking to others.   But it seems like a "poly" or let's bring in another for "play" is the usual case.


Yes, from my dealings with others, it seemed to be to me that the Lifestyle and 'monogamy' were strange bedfellows.

While all of my relationships were exclusively monogamous (certainly sexually), I was asked to play with many other Doms' subs over the years.  Several of those were married individuals (but not to each other).

So does this mean you only played with others that way when you were single? 

For me, I recognized early on that emotions with WIITWD run rather high, and to take chances with someone's feelings to have multiple partners was ludicrous.  Then again, even in my vanilla relationships prior to that I was monogamous.

Jeff




ownedgirlie -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 5:41:19 PM)

I am monogamous and he is not.  No one touches me unless he says they do, and then it is only within his parameters.  He is free to do as he wishes with whom he wishes, however he is very particular about who he engages in sexual activities with.  For him there must be a connection and either a desire to own or at least to consider ownership. 




PlayfulOne -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 6:02:46 PM)

No monogomy here,  we are both poly.  We have both physical and intimate relationships with others.  We are a couple, whatever we do we do together.  While I could have another relationshp which didn't involve her, what would be the point?  It would never be as much fun or fullfilling without her there.

K  




smilezz -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 6:04:51 PM)

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This kind of sounds like what Feline was referring to. 
 
So you say no sex, no fluid exchange.  And that would include with other females?
 
For me....the only fluid exchange with another female would be in a kiss.  There would be no type of vaginal sex between a female and I.  I enjoy touching other females, kissing them.......tieing them up with a hood/blindfold over their face and leaving them there until Master comes home.......then offering her to Him for the night.  I have to be the "giver" when it comes to other females.  I don't want them touching me..per say.

~smilezz~




adaddysgirl -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 6:08:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lady Alaria

I don't do monogamy. Honesty is far more important to me than fidelity, and trust is more important than loyalty. And, in my experience, watching the world, there is way to much paranoia and idiocy around the concept of monogamy. A demand for fidelity seems to, almost invariably, lead to uncertainty of trust.

i think there can be both honesty and fidelity.....and trust and loyalty....so i don't really feel one has to choose one over the other.  But see, i don't want to demand fidelity....i don't think that will ever work.  Rather, i would like to find a partner who views fidelity along the same lines as i do.

Besides, I allow my lover friends. People they share their feelings with, hang out with, play sports with, play other games with, laugh with, cry with. Other people, even, that my lovers love. If intimacy is the question, what is intimacy? I have a level of closeness and emotional trust with my sister and mother, isn't that intimacy(Webster thinks it is)? If the question is sex, then why? What's so special about sex? Why allow everything else, and not that?

There does seem to be this question of what intimacy is.  As i said to LA, i always felt it involved both the physical and emotional (well i guess that's how i used it anyway).  i have 2 female cousins.  We've shared a lifetime of closeness and emotional trust...but i guess i just never thought of using the term intimate in that context.  The same with my daughter (now that she is older, married and pregnant).  We have shared intimacies in the sense of some very personal stories or 'secrets'....but i still would not have considered those intimate relationships.   Hmmm...that is an ineresting question though.

In the modern day, with STDs, there's a bit of a reason. But aside from that, the reasons all seem to be societal and religious in origin. Don't like it, don't do it.

Nothing against those who practice monogamy, I just have never(I mean ever) understood why anyone would want to.

i really don't know if it has to do with upbringing...or one's nature (that nature/nurture thing again?)....or what.  i was raised in a monogamous household.  Even in vanilla, i was always monogamous.  That didn't change when i got into D/s.  It actually still means about the same thing to me now that it did then.
 
i tend to view sex as a very intimate (again that word....lol) dynamic.  When i did have sex, i had always had it with someone i would consider was going to be a LT partner.  Obviously, it did not always work out that way, but that is what i thought at the time.  Again, is that just me...or the way i was raised...or what?  i really don't know....but it just is what it is, i guess.
 
DG





Tikkiee -> RE: Monogamy, D/s and you (11/22/2006 6:15:19 PM)

I am not allowed to be with others unless he wishes it of me, and then only those who he decides on.
 
Emotionally, I am monogamous; physically, at his wish, I am not.




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