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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 9:21:04 AM

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Here's the other half of the equation. I am TexasTops wife. I grant that a certain amount of life experience is needed to achieve Master or Mistress level. For the purposes of clarification my husband does not consider himself a Master; rather more a dominant/top who is always seeking to improve his skills and expand his experiences.

I can personally attest that if the compatibility is there age is not a deterrant to a good relationship. Believe me the two of us discussed the age difference many times over the course of our relationship before we decided to marry. It helps that we have many common interests and both have a willingness to explore the others interests. His parents were not exactly jumping with joy when they first realized that I am their age peer. But, once they saw us together and saw the love and ease and rightness then they were happy for us and welcomed me with open arms. We have had more than one set of folks from various walks in our lives tell us we just fit together. We enjoy the age difference and it enhances our marriage. We combine my rather jaded view at times with his more optimistic viewpoint and find a happy medium.

On the rare occasions when I bottom I have had wonderful experiences with much younger tops/dominants. Since it is not in me to ever submit (I distinguish bottoming from submitting) I can say the age of a Master is irrelevant in my circumstances.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 9:32:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: DommeChains

... I grant that a certain amount of life experience is needed to achieve Master or Mistress level. For the purposes of clarification my husband does not consider himself a Master; rather more a dominant/top who is always seeking to improve his skills and expand his experiences.

No, he does not, but the OP, aged 20...does; or so he said. I can understand a man of 20 feeling Dominant; but a Master? <shrugs> IMHO I just don't think there's a possibility of enough experience at that tender age.

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I can personally attest that if the compatibility is there age is not a deterrant to a good relationship.

I couldn't agree more!

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... I can say the age of a Master is irrelevant in my circumstances.

Soooooooo, one can be a Master at age 12, too?

Please, I do not think of this as an 'age' thing; but rather as an 'experience' thing. At age 28, a man like your husband could have a good ten years of experience...and BE a Master, perhaps.

JMNSHO
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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 9:40:33 AM

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Good points Bearlee......for clarity's sake what I meant by the age is irrelevant is that I never submit so it doesn't matter what age a Master might be because no one is (or will be) my Master.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 10:02:15 AM

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i am 41 and Master is 31. we get along every well and we are getting to know each other well. the one thing that i have found in Master is that we connect and to me connection is the key. we are both still newbies and He does have a Mentor but we started out as friends. so age to me does not play a part in this lifestyle it is the man that does.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 10:07:48 AM

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Still, here's what I'm curious about: do slaves expect a Master to be much older? Do subs? What're some thoughts and opinions on this?

In general, yes. People want older masters, younger masters get very little respect.

That doesn't mean you can't exist.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 10:21:32 AM

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True, LA. It's funny...even if a 50 yr old guy only just discovered WIITWD and BDSM and The Power Exchange, etc; just the fact that he has some 30 years of experience in life as an adult will contribute to his ability to Dominate.

Still...it's likely that guy would be no more a 'Master' in a year or two, than the 20-yr old ......IMHO

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 2:09:52 PM

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Hey Marie...maybe two twenty year olds could handle you.

Sure they could, after they're done playing cowboys and Indians and have their milk and cookies.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 2:24:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: TexasTop

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Besides physical attractiveness being probably more substantial in younger men and women, I dont see how most 20somethings would have anything in common with, or mesh will with most 40somethings. Im not saying it doesnt happen, Im just saying that I'd be shocked as shit to see some couple where one is 20 and the other is 38-40 still together after a year or so. I think the sexual compatibility and the thrill of being with a younger/older man/woman might be attractive to some people in and of itself, but I dont see longterm being in their future.
I think in the case of your hardcore ownership type of relationships, it might work with huge age gaps, but those who are interested in well-rounded long lasting romantic type relationships dont have much hope for long term with huge age gaps. Just my opinion of course. But Id love to hear from a 60 year old who tells me they hooked up with a 20 year old when they were 40 and are still together.

Well, get ready for a shock.....I'm 28 and my lovely wife is 52. We've been together just over 2 years now and plan on staying together for the duration.

This isnt a shock to me at all. Actually, 2 year old "May December" relationships are quite common. What I said was I'd be shocked to see one, or hear of one, that lasts or lasted for the duration.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 4:55:30 PM

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Few relationships of any kind last for the duration.

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This isnt a shock to me at all. Actually, 2 year old "May December" relationships are quite common. What I said was I'd be shocked to see one, or hear of one, that lasts or lasted for the duration.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 5:08:34 PM

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I think the bottom line is that people tend to equate age to life experience and make their assumptions from there. That would explain "eyebrows raised", since the question would be "How much experience have you gained in two years?" and "Am I supposed to trust you with my physical and emotional well being?"

However, just like stated in previous posts, its all about the nature of relationship and being comfortable with your partner and vice versa.

To each their own.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 6:41:53 PM

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"Few relationships of any kind???" last for the duration?

How about parent child relationships, familial relationships and frienships? So far, I've been involved in dozens of those that have lasted some 42 yrs to this point and will last until death.

As far as male/female relationships and/or marriages....I think your statement is still a stretch, and probably innacurate. Though I don't have any stats in front of me, Ive heard its about 50%. And from what I have observed in those around me, family, grandparents, friends marriages etc, I have seen many relationships span at least decades (my own marriage included) if not a lifetime, for many other couples. And as many do split, but I wouldn't say that "few" relationships last long term or for the "duration". I would have to disagree with that, but conceed that maybe in your experiences that is what you have seen.

Anyway, for clarity purposes, my statement was in reference specifically to those with huge age gaps between the two people involved. I believe that relationships where there is an entire generation gap between the two parties have the odds stacked highly against them for making it long-term or the "duration", so to speak. Im not saying it couldnt happen, Im just saying I would be surprised to see it.

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Few relationships of any kind last for the duration.

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

This isnt a shock to me at all. Actually, 2 year old "May December" relationships are quite common. What I said was I'd be shocked to see one, or hear of one, that lasts or lasted for the duration.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 8:01:55 PM

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Well, be prepared to be surprised. We have been through some things in our relationship of more than 2 years which frequently break up couples regardless of the ages of the partners. Serious, life altering things and yet there is still that unconditional acceptance and love and respect between us and that is what binds us to one another.

I respect that fact that you are skeptical that relationships with a large age difference will last past the novelty stage. Personally I doubt any romantic relationship lasts past the novelty stage if people refuse to see who the other partner really is and accepts them as they are. Same for friendships and familial ties. If all one sees of another is what one wants to see then one is doomed to disappointment.

And now I have hijacked the thread long enough lol.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 8:57:25 PM

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Well, be prepared to be surprised. We have been through some things in our relationship of more than 2 years which frequently break up couples regardless of the ages of the partners. Serious, life altering things and yet there is still that unconditional acceptance and love and respect between us and that is what binds us to one another.

This just changed my opinion on the odds of longterm success for generational gap couples. Thank you.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 9:25:52 PM

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Even before I discovered my submission and was dating in the "vanilla" world, I never went out with anyone younger than me. It just never worked out that way. Being the youngest in a fairly large family, and hanging around the adults a lot, I just tended to merge toward those who were older than me. My Master is the biggest age difference, however, at 17 years older than me. I have only met one dominant man younger than me who had the power and intelligence to capture my attention.

I would question the amount of life experience in a 20 year old to be able to master someone much older effectively. Doesn't mean it can't exist, but I would question it.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 11:30:59 PM

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Alright, sevearl things. First, a clarification.

My orginial post was more about girls my age, and slightly younger. Most eighteen-year old girls I've spoken to have said I'm too young for them, while I have two years on them. I can more than understand a thirty plus not wanting a Master a decade or more younger than them, but it's slaves and subs my own age, and even younger, that confuse me.

Bearlee, some posts have mentioned experience with regards to age. I'm somewhat startled that some seem to have this notion that experience starts at or near eighteen. Fellows, I've had a sub starting at fourteen, and a first slave, for a year term, at sixteen. It's been a number of years since. At my age, we learn very quickly. We're sharp, our minds having fully developed at age fifteen, but not starting the decay that comes past the mid-twenty's. The mitocondria in our cells hasn't suffered from overly extensive oxidation yet, keeping our minds well fueled, in addition to our hearts. For those of us who have sat down, looked at life unafraid and free of the intoxication that comes with youthful bliss, we have learned quickly, accurately, and greatly of the aspirations of a human spirit and the needs of its heart. Bearlee, I can more than assure you, Masters can and do exist at my age. We're stable, sane, well-aware, and ever curious.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 11:41:33 PM

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You know, you almost had me sold until you tried making it sound like there was osme sort of scientific reason that as a young person you are wel fit to be a master.
At age 18 I had a 26 year old sub. At age 30, my boy is 22. It is not about the age of the person, it is about the ability of the person to make themselves be taken seriously. Many women prefer older men. It is common, in the vanilla dating world and in here. Why the fact that the common trends out in the vanilla world translates to ours confuses me. We are still, by and large, looking for relationships. If someone at age 18 or 20 is mature enough to handle a long term relationship than thats fantastic. The majority are not. Then again, there are 30-40 year olds who are not yet mature enough to handle long term relationships.
Age preference, like looks, is a personal like or dislike. To fault someone for liking an older man, or prefering and older Dom is just like faulting them for not liking dark hair or tattoos. For the most part, young people in the lifestyle are not taken seriously until they have proven themselves. Their age implies they lack experience, and the majority of them on here at the very least are novices if expereinced at all. If you are one that stands out in the crowd, the you will have to show people that. Its like the true slaves in the sea of posers... we know they are out there but they have to do something to make us notice them.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/24/2006 11:54:30 PM

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HEXZELLENT response.
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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/25/2006 1:45:54 AM

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You know, you almost had me sold until you tried making it sound like there was osme sort of scientific reason that as a young person you are wel fit to be a master.

There isn't a scientific reason that a young person is well fit to be a Master. I'm stating that we can have the minds and time necessary to be able to become a good Master, contrary to the views expressed by some, such as Bearlee pointed out.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/25/2006 6:03:43 AM

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Yes, few relationships of any kind. How many parent-child relationships does a human being have in one life? I really don't believe that you have DOZENS of relationships that you expect to last till death. Either you're being very loose with the word "relationship," or you've overestimated.

The statistic I think you're talking about is that 50% of marriages don't end in divorce.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/p70-80.pdf

That's 50% of MARRIAGES, not 50% of relationships. By definition, anyone with a marriage that lasts till death has only one such relationship. I'd call that "few."

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

"Few relationships of any kind???" last for the duration?

How about parent child relationships, familial relationships and frienships? So far, I've been involved in dozens of those that have lasted some 42 yrs to this point and will last until death.

As far as male/female relationships and/or marriages....I think your statement is still a stretch, and probably innacurate. Though I don't have any stats in front of me, Ive heard its about 50%. And from what I have observed in those around me, family, grandparents, friends marriages etc, I have seen many relationships span at least decades (my own marriage included) if not a lifetime, for many other couples. And as many do split, but I wouldn't say that "few" relationships last long term or for the "duration". I would have to disagree with that, but conceed that maybe in your experiences that is what you have seen.

Anyway, for clarity purposes, my statement was in reference specifically to those with huge age gaps between the two people involved. I believe that relationships where there is an entire generation gap between the two parties have the odds stacked highly against them for making it long-term or the "duration", so to speak. Im not saying it couldnt happen, Im just saying I would be surprised to see it.

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Few relationships of any kind last for the duration.

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RE: Younger Masters? - 11/25/2006 7:30:55 AM

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In the vanilla world, i always dated younger men for many reasons, primarily the sexual attraction and the fact that in general, they maintain better physiques. Intellectually, i have met several men in their 20's that are quite mature and intellectually stimulating. Just as i do not wish to be steriotyped by my age, i don't steriotype others. i personally find youth very attractive and desirable and as long as there is not "ego" running the show, but confidence and desire to grow, younger Dominates are my preference. Age is not a good gauge for experience - i have found that out the hard way...

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Hey all.

I'm twenty, and a Master. I can't tell you how many eyebrows that seems to raise on this site, and similar ones on the net. It seems to be quite a contrast, to real life, where I've been able to find slaves with little difficulty. Then again, in real life, the focus seems to be on the relationship, not the nature of it, so I'm wondering if that's the source of the difference.

Still, here's what I'm curious about: do slaves expect a Master to be much older? Do subs? What're some thoughts and opinions on this?

Generally, I prefer younger than me just for the simple fact that I find younger men to be more sexually attractive to me. I find that I tend to view people on an individual basis. You can be twenty and extremely mature and intelligent or forty and childlike. All age gives one is more life experiences. If you aren't able to put to use the teachings of that experience or to seperate the positive from the negative, then that experience becomes pretty useless. Age also has nothing to do with personality compatibility which is important to me after the physical attraction has been established.

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