LadyEllen
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Gotta love this forum and it's arrogant, presumptive, labeling, condescending core membership. As an artist I know our ideal role in society is that of the visionary who seeks to speak in the conversation which has been going on for centuries which is in its essence, the avant-garde. All my career I've had to nonetheless deal with the stigma's and stereotypes that very society seeks to impose on visial artists, nor do I villify you for doing so madame, as you are by far not the first. Granted, historically, many artists were known to be self-indulgent, compulsive and self-destructive, and I've learned that their personal predilictions and percieved character flaws were less than irrelevant to the legacy of their genius, which society usually vindictively refuses to recognize till they've passed. So it's always been, and their "pain, anguish and rage" simply called angst, can invariably be traced back to others like yourself, who see them as a threat or pariah, or who perhaps find their vision distasteful, or them personally, and justify judging them by identifying their character flaws and imperfections, and then reach their goal of being superior to them. It's an easy rationale.
But this is all academic, being a time honored tradition, so thanks for playing.
I have no need to defend myself, nor admit my personal imperfections here, knowing it would not make a dent in your preconceptions either way, of me or those like me, in the slightest.
You said my words reminded you of someone I doubt you fully approve of, and if not, you've shown your true colors, since it isnt your place to approve of him or me. And what any of this has to do with men's confessions on breasts, I have failed miserably to see.
Its uncanny. The raw demonstration of resentful rage, pain and anguish.....
It was a question, OK? I dont meet many artists, messing about with stinky trucks all day, and wanted to ask. And by the way, the CM membership is not arrogant - however, I am arrogant and proud of it so you did pick that out well. I'm also more than pleased to have been nominated a core member, though I think only the High Council of Grand Masters of Superfluence are empowered to do that (Ron and Benji, basically).
I dont see artists as pariahs by any stretch either, so where you got that idea from I dont know (well, I do actually). I do however discern between artists and the comedians who dump an old shed, or a used tent with the names of their many lovers embroidered on it in a gallery, which makes me only guilty of the same attitude that my artist neighbour has.
As it happens, I neither approve nor disapprove of you, as I dont know you (though I'm learning) and would in any case only judge you on your works as an artist and on your words and deeds as a person. And as for my neighbour - Adrian does and says a lot of things that are stupid, but I love him and he loves me, and I know why he does and says a lot of things that are stupid (see line 1, above).
What this has to do with men's views on breasts? Well, it began as a thread hijack - meant to be brief, but I see it went on, which in my psychopathological little mind is most gratifying. In the end though, it appears to have been well on track, demonstrating that whatever a man's view on breasts, some at least are not averse to making a right tit of themselves.
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