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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 7:24:09 AM   
MasterNdorei


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Status: offline 		i had a similar experience when the One who owns me came across a picture taken after a previous Dom had done breast torture on me. Master was appalled (ok so was everyone else i sent it to years before), but it is really difficult to mark me... i was thrilled at the time to have such deep, long lasting marks. Like you, the picture hinted at blood, though there was none. The One who owns me would not go to the extremes necessary to mark my breasts that deeply, so it remains appalling to Him. He has done worse to my ass..... go figure....

Your skin looks fair to me. Perhaps when Your Daddy has the chance to play hard with you He will find that it is not as difficult to mark you as He thinks. If the marks go away quickly, He may feel better. When the marks are His, i am willing to bet He will feel alot better.

In the meantime, it does not benefit you to second guess the Dominant who spanked you this way, nor to rethink your consent. You loved the experience at the time. Do not attempt to repaint the past when it was a beautiful thing as it occured...

i wish Y/you both well~*
Master's dorei 

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 7:56:29 AM   
RiotGirl


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Interesting pics, Riot.  Feline's pics were no longer available so I didn't get to see those.  However, stricking with a cane and stricking with a hand are going to leave very different marks and I do not see how comparing the marks will determine which was more intense.


i was afraid i was going to be taken wrong.  I'm not saying what i experienced was more intense - at all.  NOT at ALL.  Intensity is ALL purely perspective.  Compared to alot of people the intensity of what i feel is not even remotely what others feel. 

What my intention was - was to give some pictures of deeper markings to show her Daddy that its "okay" to be marked up.  That Marks are not bad.  Since i bruise easily - i was actually hoping to show some deep all over purple/green/black/blue pics.  More like to say "hey this might look bad - but its not"  To put it in abit of perspective for him.  So he wouldnt stress out or be upset. 

i probably said it wrong and came off wrong - my apologies.  Didnt mean to come off like that.   

Plus - with the way people bruise or not bruise.. one cant tell intensity from markings. 

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 7:58:05 AM   
velvetears


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Status: offline 		If it was the intensity of pain you enjoyed that can be achieved without leaving marks, just have to go about it diferently, spanking longer, type of instrument, etc. i don't know exactly how but i remember reading somewhere that its possible to achieve the same level of pain without marking.  If it's the marks you actually enjoy seeing, but your daddy doesn't approve then that will be difficult to change unless you can change his mind on it.

i have had severe marks and yawned my way through and have had barely any marks and was at a very high pain level - i think it's skill on the part of the dominant and what they are looking to achieve. Some think they haven't done their job if your not marked lol... others try too hard not to mark.  Also the subs skin type and resiliency. Some just mark very easily, others take a lot to mark.  Enjoyment should be the issue, if you enjoyed it then why fret :-)

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RE: Experienced spanker's comments needed - 12/2/2006 8:02:11 AM   
RiotGirl


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Riot Daddy didn't think those wer emile marks lol.


but they weeeeeeeere.  i've been marked alot more.  Hopefully with this thread, he'll see thats its all okay to mark your sub and you will end up getting those marks you so dearly want!!  Marks arent bad and for some they are normal.  Marks are GOOD.  And as Kyra was saying - one can be marked from absently rubbing anothers leg.

Marie - yeah you can take them down on photobucket really easy.  I'll probably be doing that before i go out today.  Once you take the pics down, the link goes dead.


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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 10:11:31 AM   
Petruchio


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However, I suggest next time to avoid the barbed wire.

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 10:27:32 AM   
marieToo


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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

Intensity is ALL purely perspective. 


Very nicely put, right into a nutshell.  I think this is the heart of the matter with the OP.  Two diff perspectives on intensity. 

Ps: thanks for the photobucket tips.  :)

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 10:31:10 AM   
crouchingtigress


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Status: offline 		the picture did not load for me....
 
but having said that, even if you buttocks were streaked with blood ...i do not feel qualified to comment on what your master feels is an appropriate level of play...

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 10:33:16 AM   
crouchingtigress


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Status: offline 		also i think you begin down a slippery slope when you look to others out side your dynamic to validate a differing POV then your owners.

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 11:11:56 AM   
FelinePersuasion


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Status: offline 		I don't know where, but  somewhere he's got it in his head if you mark them all up it's not been done properly. He thinks a spanking would leave you pinkish radiating heat yes, but it wasn't done right if they broke little capalaries, or scratched you, or even drew blood.

I've tried to find out what makes him feel so, but I don't know, he just says that if any one in authority saw marks like riot's that her mate would be hauled away for domestic abuse, even if she stated it was consentual.

Perhaps he's just to *trying to think of accurate w*ord with out offense* soft, in his style of bdsm play to leave marks he consideres extream.

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 8:25:23 PM   
KnightofMists


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Status: offline 		Feline... fact is some individuals will never see bruising or some types of play as acceptable to them.  Which is just fine... it is their right to do what works for them.

However, I myself think less of such individuals when they wish to project their preferences onto others when they have no authority to do so. 

Your Dominant is correct that in many legal jurisdictions.. the pics of riotgirl could land her Dominant in abit of a legal tangle regardless if there is consent.  But, to my knowledge, I have only heard of one case in which individuals found themselves in such a situation even when consent was given.  There are however, many cases where consent was not given or was removed.   It is highly questionable that legal authorities will attempt to prosecute when consent is given.  Even in the one case I am aware of is lace with some circumstances that could had a decidely motivating effect on the authorities. 

When you consider the overwhelming number of BDSM events that occur on weekly bases across this continent; it would be silly to think that our policing authorities are not aware of them occuring.  With BDSM events... with consent given... with brusing and blood drawn... is not causing charges of abuse or assault to occur... then I have to wonder why?

I do believe the power of consent is indeed a powerful force.  Just as the mental health profession is evolving from the negative views they have of BDSM..... so is the legal profession.  So is society in general!



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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 9:28:43 PM   
timeoutgurlie


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Status: offline 		The pics wouldn't show for me, so I'm not sure what the fuss was about, it sounds from the replies as though the problem was more relationship oriented than a worry of physical abuse.

Is there underlying jealousy, possibly?

Also, this is entirely unrelated but what is the polite/nettiquette for when you read more than just the OP, but not the entire thread? I've seen "qucik reply" typed at the start before, and wondered if this was to note to everyone the poster hadn't read the entire thread...is that right?

I always feel bad if I don't read everything before replying but sometimes a thread grows very quickly and it's an awful lot to read

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 10:12:43 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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Status: offline 		timed out I just think he's gonna be one of the ones that think marks and bruises aren't acceptable to him:(

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/2/2006 10:32:02 PM   
timeoutgurlie


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Status: offline 		Are they important/enjoyable for you? -- If they are, then sorry to hear that   But if not, then it would seem there's a simple solution, which would be to play with others letting them know that bruising/longlasting marks are a hard limit, maybe?

It's hard to predict, IMHO, what will leave a mark or bruise and for how long, sometimes even when the play is gentle it just gets the right/wrong spot and *bam* bruise or welt that lasts, yet wasn't very painful and definitely nothing extreme.

Hopefully so long as it's not a consistant pattern of heavy bruising/marks, he will accept that some just come with the territory per se, and you're well and safe


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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/3/2006 8:30:25 AM   
MissSeven


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


With BDSM events... with consent given... with brusing and blood drawn... is not causing charges of abuse or assault to occur... then I have to wonder why?


Umm...cuz we want the shit beat out of us?



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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/3/2006 2:55:56 PM   
asubmissivekk


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Status: offline 		Hello anyone from indiana no of any bd/sm clubs or spanking clubs?.

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/4/2006 5:11:26 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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Status: offline 		to girlie, I want marks yes, I've explained it to James, and he's consented to trying  a long extended spanking and maybe see if I bruise from it:)

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/4/2006 11:42:52 PM   
Fawne


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Status: offline 		 Rats! I missed both girl's spanking pics! Whaaaaa :(
TY, for sharing, though!

I myself dislike heavy marks that show. I don't personally consider blotchy pink bruises heavy. JMHO.

The reason I don't like bruises , especially blue, green, black - the kind from "thuddy" impact is because I work out at a gym and also swim. Not cool to show up at the pool with purple stripes on thighs!

The herb Arnica heals bruises quickly. It is sold in health food stores or online as a cream or gel. Very soothing.

BTW - pain/ intensity level has nothing to do with marks. Some of "the worse stuff" leaves little or no mark. Weird, huh? 

In my experience, limited as it is - i do find the skill of a Dominant has much to do with it. Some of them can CHOOSE to mark or not! EEK!

smile, fawne

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/4/2006 11:58:43 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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Status: offline 		Yes, Fawne it's weird but neat, I read in this one book years ago where he threatend to whip his disobediant sex slave and he knew how to whip with out leaving marks, was soooooo tintilating. I unfortunatly can not find the book again:(

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/5/2006 7:34:06 AM   
drawntothedark


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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

to girlie, I want marks yes, I've explained it to James, and he's consented to trying  a long extended spanking and maybe see if I bruise from it:)


I cherish my bruises and marks. I watch them heal. I look at them everday until they are gone. Sometimes I get more out of the marks left than the act that made them. Funny huh!

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RE: Exprinced spankers comments needed - 12/5/2006 10:53:20 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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Status: offline 		drawn my very first bruise from a lite caning, and i tried to look at it like 10 times in one hour, lol I had to use a mirror and twist sideways but I saw it!

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