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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/5/2006 8:35:02 PM   
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Slaveseeker1, that is the most common-sense way of describing a 24/7 relationship I have seen in a long time. SO many times I hear from a male oh you are great, oh, what will you do to me when I serve in your home, ooooh, will your sisters be Domming me too, oooohh, I want to serve naked, ooohhhthis an dooohh that. They forget, though my profile states it very clearly, that this will be a relationship taking place in a home with a family that includes children and mundane chores will need to be done.

THANK YOU  for the sanity.

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/5/2006 8:48:50 PM   
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-Reads and re-reads the first post thinks on some things, child, roomates, Master, Tpe, counts fingers, makes face and wanders away before she gets frustrated-

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/5/2006 8:57:12 PM   
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yeah... i didnt see anything about "TPE" in there. 

So i would think that he might of just confused the masses once again about TPE?

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/5/2006 9:24:11 PM   
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quote:

The definition of a 24/7 relationship is simply a relationship where the people involved live with one another on a daily basis.


According to who?

Wait..let me redo that so that you can read it better:

According to who?









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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/5/2006 9:46:39 PM   
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quote:

According to who?


Thinks that would be according to Slaveseeker Sir, and just a hunch but probably others as this seems to be a fairly common view of what it was meant when the term being applied to bdsm came about usage.

Just as with any term it to seems to have taken on a blob form in order to incorporate and make everyone happy by defining how they wish.

Dictionary wise from Wikipedia:

Total Power Exchange or TPE is a derivative of the concept of power exchange in a D/s relationship. The term refers to a relationship where the Dominant has complete authority and influence over the submissive's life, making the majority of decisions. TPE is occasionally referred to as 24/7, denoting that protocol in the D/s relationship is in play anytime, anyplace and the dominant partner gets complete power at all times of the day, though most consider these terms to have somewhat different definitions. More frequently, TPE is used interchangeably with the state of being a slave or being Internally Enslaved. (Think the "play anytime, anyplace" gives the impression of needing to be physically together in order to accomplish that) So probably would be better to say that depending on how long your involvement with alternative life choices might make a great difference on persons takes on meanings.

A protocol is a set of guidelines for use in various circumstances.

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/5/2006 9:47:42 PM   
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Laugh!

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I think he's coming down from a bad 24/7 tpe relationship where they forgot to discuss his work.

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/5/2006 9:59:34 PM   
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Personally i think people get confused when someone comes on these boards with exact definitions of what something is. Master and i have a 24/7 M/s relationship and W/we DON'T live together. And W/we talk about money and work and all of it and W/we also play when it suits Him. i think defining anything exactly and permanently is where reality gets lost in the translation. And so your point/question is?

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/5/2006 10:48:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tikkiee

I am confused


quote:

ORIGINAL: SlaveSeeker1

For everyone, what constitutes a 24/7 relationships differs, like everything else in BDSM. The definition of a 24/7 relationship is simply a relationship where the people involved live with one another on a daily basis.


You don't often see a post start out with two sentences so radically at odds with one another.

That is to say: I don't blame you for being confused.

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/5/2006 11:27:00 PM   
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Living a 24/7 live-in TPE dynamic takes more focus and commitment than some people think, but it is possible to live your dream.

Master and i have been living O/our dynamic for almost a year and half. It is better than either of U/us had ever thought possible. It helps that W/we both had realistic expectations, that O/our dynamic is expressed more outside "scenes" than during them. It also helps that W/we both remain committed to who W/we are to each other in all interactions between U/us, and that W/we have found many ways to keep it real while being discreet in front of vanilla friends and family members.

This is the second person i have read this week who was disillusioned with the live-in TPE. It is sad because the potential for greatness is powerful, and possible, and yet it seems easier to blame "real life" "mundane responsibilities" and such for the failure... when the truth is, there will always be these things. The secret is figuring out what will work for you in getting around them, or using them to your advantage.

Good thread...
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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 3:52:01 AM   
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I'm a little confused myself.  However, what confuses a lot of people is the "total" thing.  I'm not one that believes in absolutes when it comes to human beings.  The other thing is that it was my understanding that the person who coined the phrase did not believe that "total" power exchange was really possible.  He believed it was an interesting concept and a goal, but not completely achieveable.

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 4:16:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tikkiee

I am confused


quote:

ORIGINAL: SlaveSeeker1

For everyone, what constitutes a 24/7 relationships differs, like everything else in BDSM. The definition of a 24/7 relationship is simply a relationship where the people involved live with one another on a daily basis.


You don't often see a post start out with two sentences so radically at odds with one another.

That is to say: I don't blame you for being confused.



Exactly!!! 

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 9:07:38 AM   
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24/7 is like any other type of relationship. If you don't discuss the particulars beforehand, they either luckily work themselves out (pretty rare), or they become issues of contention that weren't expected.

When I see people talking about 24/7 in a "confused" manner it's usually about people who condemn a "declared" 24/7 relationship of someone's because it doesn't fit the definition of some outsider who has a desire to force definitions on everything that doesn't involve himself/herself.


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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 11:21:27 AM   
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::snipped for brevity::

quote:

 It takes effort to keep communication open and honest.


I'm not sure what, if anything, the entire post had to do with the actual title of the thread, but I did want to address a comment to this quote. For people who fit together, who are right together, who take the time to get to know one another and who actually 'like' each other, communication is not an effort. I'd rather speak with Himself than anyone else and he with me. I so often see people talk about how relationships are such hard work and I just don't understand why that's so. 

The best relationships I've ever seen, those which are life-long and lasting appear effortless and I know that's true in my case.

I would question 'why' your having to work so hard at a relationship. How come it's not flowing and naturally easy to communicate what you love, dream, hope for and then work together to make that happen? Could it be because you're with the wrong person or settling for less than you desire?

There are, of course, always going to be bumps in the road, but if they aren't very widely spaced, (few and far between) and easy to get over, I'm afraid I don't understand all this 'work' that people are doing to maintain something which is.. well, just not working on it's own.

Maybe someone can 'splain it to me.

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 5:20:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*


LOL... can i try this with Griffin?  what do you think?

~ann

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 5:29:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: goodpet

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*


LOL... can i try this with Griffin?  what do you think?

~ann


Oh my!  ROFLMAO!!! 

If you try it with Griffin, I'll try it with "Daddy."  Let's see who gets "put back in her place" first...  *giggles*

We were going to try meeting for dinner sometime soon, right?  Maybe we try this together?  (the buddy system and all...) 

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 5:57:28 PM   
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The biggest killers of any relationship are money problems, sex problems and dis-respect.

If you aren't comfortable talking about how you think the money should be handled, who is in charge, accepting the other person's hard limits, NO RELATIONSHIP is going to be right for you. 

And if you typically "settle" for someone because you don't think you'll ever meet the one you really want, you won't ever meet them. You'll always be disappointed, and, of course, so will they.

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 6:11:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: goodpet

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*


LOL... can i try this with Griffin?  what do you think?

~ann


Oh my!  ROFLMAO!!! 

If you try it with Griffin, I'll try it with "Daddy."  Let's see who gets "put back in her place" first...  *giggles*

We were going to try meeting for dinner sometime soon, right?  Maybe we try this together?  (the buddy system and all...) 

~ DRH


DRH, you and ann are both not right and far more masochistic than either of you led me to believe, if y'all are going to try this.

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 6:24:56 PM   
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I think what the OP is trying to say in his first sentence is that the defination for 24/7 is going to be different depending on who is giving the definition, just like BDSM has a different definition depending on who you ask---then he goes on to give his definition of 24/7.  

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/6/2006 6:28:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub

DRH, you and ann are both not right and far more masochistic than either of you led me to believe, if y'all are going to try this.



LOL... 

Daddy just read this little exchange between ann and me and laughed.  He said something like 'you girls are funny...  I'd like to see that myself...  or are we playing in the realm of fantasy here?'  and laughed.

If I tried this, I'd probably in for the time of my life...  and not in a really good way...  *eek!*  You two gals know how big He is...  I think I'd be in some serious caca... 

~ DRH

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RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? - 12/7/2006 7:22:34 AM   
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Nice.  Everyone has their own definition of what 24/7 TPE is about.  There's no point even trying to say it is this or that, outside of a general definition, like the one below.  When considering entering into such a 24/7 TPE, the most important thing is to make sure that the person you are considering it with, gives it the same definition you do.  Which brings us back to the foundation of every relationship of any type: COMMUNICATION. 

quote:

ORIGINAL: starshineowned

Dictionary wise from Wikipedia:

Total Power Exchange or TPE is a derivative of the concept of power exchange in a D/s relationship. The term refers to a relationship where the Dominant has complete authority and influence over the submissive's life, making the majority of decisions. TPE is occasionally referred to as 24/7, denoting that protocol in the D/s relationship is in play anytime, anyplace and the dominant partner gets complete power at all times of the day, though most consider these terms to have somewhat different definitions. More frequently, TPE is used interchangeably with the state of being a slave or being Internally Enslaved. (Think the "play anytime, anyplace" gives the impression of needing to be physically together in order to accomplish that) So probably would be better to say that depending on how long your involvement with alternative life choices might make a great difference on persons takes on meanings.

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