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ORIGINAL: Kalira

Personally, I don't see a difference in appreciation from vanilla relationships to other.

. The same now, I do not receive words or acts of appreciation for what I do for Master; nor would I expect any from him. I do what I do because I want to and because it makes me happy.

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ORIGINAL: patina

I was talking to a sub on a different site, we were interrupted by her Master asking about dinner. 

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ORIGINAL: patina

Are there any feelings toward this observation or am I off base, is there little difference between them.  Or does the lifestyle seem to have more appreciation among its partners.  Any comments on this or have I totally confused everyone.


Patina

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ORIGINAL: babyblues

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ORIGINAL: patina

I was talking to a sub on a different site, we were interrupted by her Master asking about dinner. 

    i must admit, this line raised my eyebrows as well....interrupted? I'm sure you didn't intend to, but you imply that he inconvenienced you and your friend, when, in my opinion, it was he that was inconvenienced, in having to come and ask about dinner....good try with the crockpot story btw, but anything cooked in a crockpot for 18+ hours would turn to mush....if i served mush for dinner, i would most definitely be punished....
    as for your question, no, i have not seen more thankfullness, but then i am a slave and don't look for it, or need it....it seems to me that more D/s relationships have this kind of back and forth to them as opposed to M/s....as for myself, i prefer the company of a true Master to that of a sometime Dominant....
 
p.s. you will NEVER find me online when He is at home.....

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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Greetings patina,

First...I replied to your first post, so my guidance was from that....in your second post did you go into more details....is this not right...and thus with MORE details I can give a better explanation upon matters.....is this not right.

The time was 11.40.....so it was not really dinner time...because I usually go about 6 or 7 for dinner.  Now without the nitpicking...ok...a slave is usually owned....now being owned she has a Master, but you informed me with some knowledge that she has a Dom,a Sir, and thus she should be classed as a sub, in my mind.  Now not being to indulgant, I can actually give a better advice with this extra information about the scanario, would you not think so.   Giving information about the whole scenario would not have people giving misleading guidance upon matters, let us be realistic.  If a person can only get 1/2 knowledge about matters, then what type of reply can they really give.

What ever time you speak with your friend, and if it is that late, then go for it, you both are adults.  Why ask questions thought upon matters that you would recieve 100 different answers?  Would you not?  If Dom/Sirs help out, then why not.  if they dont', well could be that type of person and the other knew about it before getting into the relationship.  If Masters help out, then so be it, some don't, some do, it does depend upon the situation, and the people.  You really can't decide without ALL facts now, can you....grins and chuckles.

Like when I inform people when they take snippets out of my replies...I let them know to reply to the whole message and not what suits them.  If you give the full version, then a reply is given upon the full facts...and not little snippets...simple.

Even the softest voice is heard over crowds, and not yelling by one.  So yelling at me, does not make any difference, it just makes you smaller in my eyes, simple.

Be well and take care.

Master Frank Ar.

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Huh?

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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Greetings patina,

First...I replied to your first post, so my guidance was from that....in your second post did you go into more details....is this not right...and thus with MORE details I can give a better explanation upon matters.....is this not right.

The time was 11.40.....so it was not really dinner time...because I usually go about 6 or 7 for dinner.  Now without the nitpicking...ok...a slave is usually owned....now being owned she has a Master, but you informed me with some knowledge that she has a Dom,a Sir, and thus she should be classed as a sub, in my mind.  Now not being to indulgant, I can actually give a better advice with this extra information about the scanario, would you not think so.   Giving information about the whole scenario would not have people giving misleading guidance upon matters, let us be realistic.  If a person can only get 1/2 knowledge about matters, then what type of reply can they really give.

What ever time you speak with your friend, and if it is that late, then go for it, you both are adults.  Why ask questions thought upon matters that you would recieve 100 different answers?  Would you not?  If Dom/Sirs help out, then why not.  if they dont', well could be that type of person and the other knew about it before getting into the relationship.  If Masters help out, then so be it, some don't, some do, it does depend upon the situation, and the people.  You really can't decide without ALL facts now, can you....grins and chuckles.

Like when I inform people when they take snippets out of my replies...I let them know to reply to the whole message and not what suits them.  If you give the full version, then a reply is given upon the full facts...and not little snippets...simple.

Even the softest voice is heard over crowds, and not yelling by one.  So yelling at me, does not make any difference, it just makes you smaller in my eyes, simple.

Be well and take care.

Master Frank Ar.

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darksdesire
Wait.  If one bothers to read the post all the way through, it would be noted that she was only noticing the manner in which this Master helps out and appreciates what his slave is doing for him.  There was absolutely no criticism of the Master, no offense regarding "interruption", she was merely observing kindness on his part and wondering about it.  Nowhere did she indicate any sense of being "inconvenienced". 

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Now how pathetic of you to even think of that line

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ORIGINAL: MmakeMme

~chuckle~

I have been on this side of Master Frank's ire and it is not a pleasant thing. In fact, it is infuriating. However, I must point out that He sees things His own way and it's ok for Him to do so. He answered the question as He saw fit.

Patina did nothing wrong, her friend did nothing wrong, her friend's Sir did nothing wrong, and Master Frank did nothing wrong. Belief in a concept is all a matter of degree - there's black, there's white, and all the colors in between. It takes extremes on both sides to make a middle.

Master Frank, I look forward to doing battle with you in the future. ~grinning~

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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Now let me get this right, HE interupted your conversation and asked about dinner.  Now how pathetic of you to even think of that line, let us face it, she is slave, owned, this is not a Dom/subby relationship where near equality exists.  It is a slave relationship where she is owned, she pleases her Owner the best way that she can and everyone else SHOULD go second.  For even while she was talking with you, SHE should have noticed the time and exused herself to make sure HIS dinner was ready and heated. 

There is a major difference in a slave relationship, there is not even a remote equality in it.  You, patina do have to think in the back of your mind that she has to live by His rules, and so thus that is why she became collared to Him, and you should ( whether you are sub or slave or Domme ) adhere to His household rules as a means of respect.  Remember YOUR friend lives there, and she is there 24/7.  Where you can turn the computer off and say have a nice day, she might have to suffer the consequences of you talking with her while she should have been making the dinner, simple.

Be well and take care.

Master Frank Ar.

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ORIGINAL: Rover

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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Now let me get this right, HE interupted your conversation and asked about dinner.  Now how pathetic of you to even think of that line, let us face it, she is slave, owned, this is not a Dom/subby relationship where near equality exists.  It is a slave relationship where she is owned, she pleases her Owner the best way that she can and everyone else SHOULD go second. 

To begin, you're misunderstanding her usage of the term "interrupt" as if it were prejorative.  Grab a dictionary, it's nothing more than a factual rendering of events that transpired.  There is no negative denotation, simply a negative connotation that exists in your own mind.
 
Second, if anyone is "pathetic" in this thread, I'm looking in your direction.  Lashing out at someone, calling them names, demonstrating your ignorance (another denotatively non-prejorative term, simply stating what you do not know rather than your intelligence), and topping it off with statements of what everyone else "should" do in their personal relationships.  That's quite a litany of miscues in my opinion.
 
John