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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/12/2006 10:00:43 AM   
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Since I do not have to drive I pay attention to other cars on the road. I would notice if you were masterbaiting in the car yes. I also notice a lot of people are stupid idiotic careless unsafe drivers due to practices such as putting on makeup, twisting sideways to dig about behind them all the while trying unsucessfully to keep eyes on road, nor do  some of these people even bother to properly seat tiny kids.

Anyway more people than you think might be checking out what others do in the car, however who realkly cares right?

On Vacation riding in the back of our dogde I would let my dress ride up and my ass hang in the sunshine, it was comfy and I liked that someone driving by might of been flashed my ass.
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One thing I've noticed, especially in cars, is NOBODY'S LOOKING AT YOU.  Think of the last time you drove past a car and checked to see if some girl happened to be masturbating in it?  Most people are so wrapped up in their own heads you could probably be hanging your body out the sunroof with relative safety...  



Late late at night, my ex-fiancee took to masterbating me on a long car trip. My noises kept him awake as he drove (it was a 14 hour drive) and it was no issue for him to reach over with one hand while driving. He enjoyed it and we didn't think anything off it until a trucker noticed us and followed us for quite a bit after that. I was definately mortified.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/12/2006 10:05:40 AM   
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AS, I am actually kind of hoping to go somewhere adults only and wear a short skirt an some cute knee or thigh high boots so my panties might baaaaarely peek out.

Adults only I don't nessisarily mean kink places, just places where adults only are allowed. I have no desire to accidently expose my panties to minors lol.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/12/2006 10:08:32 AM   
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I feel that exhibitionism is fine and dandy as long as you are avoiding particular areas. Schools, playgrounds, shoppping malls, arcades... basically anywhere kids might be. You shouldn't be exposing kids to sex stuff. That isn't right on many levels. 1) It's without their consent or the consent of their parents, 2) It's illegal, 3) It's immoral. There does come situations where you can't hide behide "Master/Daddy/Dominant/Mommy/Mistress told me to" and you have to own up to what is your responsiblity. Exposing children to porn and sexual situations is same as molesting them and frankly, I do hope the police catch you if you are that irresponsible.

As for me: I love exhibitionism when I'm sure that no unconsenting public will be around to see it. I tolerate it and obey because it is his whim when there might be public eyes who didn't consent. When there is a real chance of children being involved, I refuse. There are some things we have to take the moral responsibility for.

This kinda strikes a nerve with me if you can't tell...

Edited because I leave out words... Sorry.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/12/2006 10:12:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

AS, I am actually kind of hoping to go somewhere adults only and wear a short skirt an some cute knee or thigh high boots so my panties might baaaaarely peek out.

Adults only I don't nessisarily mean kink places, just places where adults only are allowed. I have no desire to accidently expose my panties to minors lol.


*nodnod* I understand that. I attend many play parties where I end up wearing little more then a collar. I dress rather interestingly while on my way there: Tiny black dress, black corset, black boots, black collar that says "slave" (I know I don't ID as one currently but it's pretty for show)... definately makes the pre-party ABC store run interesting... Last time I got a number along with my liquor!

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/12/2006 10:25:27 AM   
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AS My dom says if you get caugth playing on school equipment even after hours or in playgrounds or where kids play or occupy it's a real possibility of a felonly offense

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/12/2006 10:31:36 AM   
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I love to show off and wish I got to do more of it.  I enjoy the thigh highs and no panties with a skirt.. got more than my share of hook-ups with that outfit when I used to go out a lot. 
 
I would never, ever expose a minor to anything, but going out to clubs is a great way to show-off without worrying.  I haven't gotten to do much outside or in cars, there isn't much time..but hopefully next spring we can hit a few places and enjoy a bit of play.
 
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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/12/2006 10:32:28 AM   
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AS My dom says if you get caugth playing on school equipment even after hours or in playgrounds or where kids play or occupy it's a real possibility of a felonly offense


With very good reason. Children are easily affected by things. I happened to read some books of my father's that had very graphic and violent sexual scenes in them as a child. They weren't porn or anything, just the Tom Clancy-type (I think that is the right auther) novels with rapes and murders. I don't think this made me a submissive but it has definately added to my sexuality in a way I'm not always comfortable with. While I'm certainly not blaming my parents (having books for adults to read is certainly not a crime and I had been told not to read them) I really wish I hadn't ever read them.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/12/2006 10:37:32 AM   
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I am very much an exhibisionst.Thank goodness Master  enjoys this.(hehehe)..
He has taken me out in the woods and tied me between  two trees and whipped me. Although the area was somewhat secluded, anyone driving  on the main highway could have seen us if they had bothered to look.
We also have done several D/s scenes on a webcam site that I frequent.We have done waxplay, fireplay. He has had me on the cross whipping me with upwards of 200 people in the chatroom.
I must say nothing quite compares to being watched by strangers.
I had my first taste of live public exhibisionisim this past weekend in front of ALOT of strangers..it was the bigest turn on yet.
I cannot explain the difference it brings out in me to be in front of so many people  naked and exposed and Him having His way with me. It is just and exhilerating feeling that I do as often as He allows.
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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 1:28:13 AM   
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In theory, Exhibitionism is a huge turn in for me. When I think about it, or read about it being done in short stories, etc., I just know I'd love it. I am a fan of Pony Play, too (but have very, very little actual experience w/that, but have done extensive reading). I've only done Exhibitionistic stuff once, and it was very "low-level" stuff (it was a movie theater, and dark, and it was almost deserted in the theater, so I felt less "threatened"), but it was still thrilling.

I am wondering if some consider this 'kink" somewhat invasive of other people's (non-Bdsmers') privacy, (being as they are non-consensual participants) - and if so, how does one get around that? Only let one's submissive (or slave) "be exposed" to persons that are known to also be "into" Exhibitionism? 

I am not trying to start a flame-war, or argument about what's "right" or "wrong" in practice, but am curious as to how people reconcile this possibility, and also I am just plain curious about Exhibitionsim. Because I think it's really Hot.

I am just wondering how others feel about this, and what they've done as far as scenes in which they've incorporated it into their other bdsm activity. Because I know I'd appreciate it - but am not sure how other people go about actively practicing it.

These are truly non-judgmental comments. I am just plain curious about Exhibitionsim, and how it's practiced.  

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I draw a line at inflicting my exhibitionary kink on innocent people...It is my humble belieg that my kinky rights end at the place that it infringes upon those that are of the vanilla variety...while i have every right to wear a halter top anywhere i wish...i wouldnt wear one to church  it would offend somone else...now if they show up at an adult event  then all bets are off...but at church I am the one that needs to be aware and consientious of others...I do not think it appropriate for me to fiddle abotu in a movie theater...it is a public venue and it is not somethign that everyone would appreciate...now if i were in an adult movie therater?  adsolutely  i would have no probelm being nekkid and competing with the movie...but well as the little mermaid is playing...my turtle neck should remain where it is and no hanky panky shoul dbe occuring htere

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 6:01:37 AM   
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Although I agree, I think there are some people who are too uptight, and thus try to drag society as a whole down to their level of tolerance.  The challenge is finding the happy medium (but then that's true of most things in life, I guess).  If we are in a crowd of, say 100 people, our goal is not to insure that no one is offended- it is to insure that no more than 5 are offended. 

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 7:51:05 AM   
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He enters, dips His lid to all....

I must be an EHIBITIONIST too!  I thought I was normal, just enjoying a healthy sexlife without affecting others enjoyment of their surroundings.  Directed Masturbation, oral sex in cars, consentual but directed blindfolding and vibrator insertion through the city.   Your partner (if sub) must always know that you have considered the possibility of unintentioned offence to others before commencement. 

Having been a policeman I always consider the rammifications on others.  If a person has large tinted windows on their beachfront house and you know no children are present- why not have sex on the beach in front of them?- that was my g/fs opinion when she first introduced me to this thing you call 'exhibitionism'. 

Damm, I'm addicted to a perversion... or is that 'fantastic' I'm an exhibitionist!

I'm now very fortunate to have my 'Precious' who is more perverted than I! It probably helps that she used to be an exotic dancer and through my guidence is having a re-birth many years later.   Get tied between trees, 'spaced' and xxxxed over till the ropes are supporting your standing beside an idyllic river setting.  Walking into 7/11s etc in your fetish gear (check out the customers first) and directing your sub to expose her nipple or more for your touch while being served by a youngish male attendant.   These things are the situations that 'virile young men' fantasize about- I'm all for making the fantasy a reality provided there's no offence caused to another.  Playfully have your 'Precious' bend and be spanked (lightly folks) in front of the 7/11 type attendant for failing to warm your donut.  Any excuse is good and the laughs afterwards make it even better. 

Getting a taxi driver to wait with the meter off while your Precious changes into her fetish gear- black groin highs with 7" stilettoes saves countless $ when you give him the obligatory 'flash' upon re-appearance.   Another story for 'Taxi Driver Beer Night'

It's true most people do not see into cars, but a well placed 'toot toot' will increase the chance of brightening a road-workers day plus create a further flood of exhibitionist embarassment lubricant!

We are travelling across Australia's Nullabor(1000 miles of desert)-  We won't be intentionally 'flashing' truckies and others for reasons of personal safety and possible unintentional offence, but she will be 'pegging out' naked in the sand dunes beside the Great Southern Ocean, and hopefully be 'St Andrews Crossed' on the beach. Should this 'play' be possible, I will be placing a sign on my car saying 'No need for panic we are playing sex roles' if anyone should appear unexpectedly- highly unlikely considering I lived for days beside the beach out there without seeing a boat, ship, car, person- whoops there was planes at 30,000 ft-  ummm.. no my willy's not big enough from that height!

What will occur in the next three weeks (like always)is to be determined by my commonsense approach of safe acts performed consentually without placing others at risk.  
The phoning of a policeperson to attend to our actions is evidence that I have failed in my responsibility to further my 'Precious One's' growth and protection of her, plus the most serious is that I have affected another's enjoyment of what constitutes an enjoyable day for them.

Of course the safest is going to a club, spanking, scolding, being paraded naked, having sex in front of others, but when all is considered- most there are exhibitionists and you haven't added to the 'penthouse letters section'

The bottom line to all this is that the acts are done to further enhance your personal whims, your togetherness with each other, further acknowleging your care, respect and understanding of each other. We may be dead tomorrow but I will have respectfully 'lived' today.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 9:00:40 AM   
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Although I agree, I think there are some people who are too uptight, and thus try to drag society as a whole down to their level of tolerance.  The challenge is finding the happy medium (but then that's true of most things in life, I guess).  If we are in a crowd of, say 100 people, our goal is not to insure that no one is offended- it is to insure that no more than 5 are offended. 


Depends on which five you are talking about. No one has the right to expose a child to something their parent doesn't want them exposed to and there isn't an exception to that when it comes to exhibitionism. Most public places have people who are under 18 and plenty have the unmentionables.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 9:05:43 AM   
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You shouldn't be exposing kids to sex stuff.

LOL you'd go so well with my sister- she had Old Navy take a display window down because she thought the cock area of the mannequins was too prominent.

We won't agree on this issue down to even the fundamental levels here, but I'll just go so far as to say the more we make sex bad for kids, the more we make it bad for adolescents, teens and adults.  The more we keep kids ignorant, the more we make adolescents, teens and adults ignorant. 

The ways of keeping it away from kids really hasn't worked in the past in terms of making generations of sexually healthy, strong and free adults, so why should we expect it to keep working now?

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 9:28:18 AM   
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I include the parents as part of the 95% who have to be satisfied, or at least not offended enough to feel it's illegal.  Note that my standards are higher the laws call for, because it only takes 1 out of 12 to prevent your being convicted.  That is about 83%.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 9:38:48 AM   
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You shouldn't be exposing kids to sex stuff.

LOL you'd go so well with my sister- she had Old Navy take a display window down because she thought the cock area of the mannequins was too prominent.

We won't agree on this issue down to even the fundamental levels here, but I'll just go so far as to say the more we make sex bad for kids, the more we make it bad for adolescents, teens and adults.  The more we keep kids ignorant, the more we make adolescents, teens and adults ignorant. 

The ways of keeping it away from kids really hasn't worked in the past in terms of making generations of sexually healthy, strong and free adults, so why should we expect it to keep working now?


For me it's less of making sex bad for kids and more of interfering with parenting. You aren't the parent, you don't get to say when they are exposed to sex. That simple.

Edited to add: I probably wouldn't go well with your sister. That sounds really stupid to me (however since I can't see the mannequins I can't really judge. Did it have a visible boner or something?). I just think if you go around exposing your privates in areas where there is a good chance of a kid seeing you, you should go to jail. Or at least the Mom gets to bitch slap you. I'm flexible that way.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 9:47:40 AM   
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The other side of the coin is that if a parent takes a child into public, they take responsibility for exposing kids.  It's not MY job to decide what your kids can and can't see.  You take them in public, you accept what that might mean.  that's why parentings not easy.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 10:03:00 AM   
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The other side of the coin is that if a parent takes a child into public, they take responsibility for exposing kids.  It's not MY job to decide what your kids can and can't see.  You take them in public, you accept what that might mean.  that's why parentings not easy.


I disagree with this...ha...as I have with most on the thread, but so be it. Standards are expected in public and that is what we are talking about. If I take a child to a park, I don't expect to find me flogging a sub if that is physically/dimensionally possible.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 10:03:36 AM   
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The other side of the coin is that if a parent takes a child into public, they take responsibility for exposing kids.  It's not MY job to decide what your kids can and can't see.  You take them in public, you accept what that might mean.  that's why parentings not easy.


Depends on what you are talking about. There is a reasonable expection of not seeing naked breasts in a movie theater playing a movie rated from G to PG-13, where it's expected children will be. There is an extremely reasonable expection of not seeing couples fondling each other or having sex on or near (as in sight of) playgrounds.

Now if you are taking your child (particularly an older one) to an R rated movie because you feel they can handle it and they happen to get a glimpse of a bit of hanky panky, well that was a place where the reasonable expection was that only 18+ people would there. That is the parent's responsiblity.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 10:15:52 AM   
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While I was in newyork the friend at the time and I weregoofing off an she swatted me so I swatted her back right and we went around a few times playfully swatting, in front of the attending clerk, the lady just smiled and took it as two best friends goofing about. At one point in the dollar store we called her dom and I asked permission to spank her for her goofy ness and he said yes I may.

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RE: How Far Do You Go With Exhibitionism? - 12/13/2006 10:22:16 AM   
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I disagree with this...ha...as I have with most on the thread, but so be it. Standards are expected in public and that is what we are talking about. If I take a child to a park, I don't expect to find me flogging a sub if that is physically/dimensionally possible.


Ex Steel,
What if you took a child to the Folsom Street Fair? In public, out in the open, and you can see floggings of naked submissives. We've seen it.

The "expected standards" are so expected that the SF Police have a recruitment stand set up in the middle of the naked bodies, open group masturbation to climax, floggings, whippings, people being led on leashes, and a whole lot of other stuff. It's either an example of 'heaven' or 'hell' depending on your perspective. You'd want to show your child 'heaven' wouldn't you?

I happen to disagree with that position, but it's the position of people who do attend with their children, some in strollers.

For that place on that day, and I'm sure there are other places and days; "standards" change. If every day this occurred on that street, would that change the acceptable "standard"?

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