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RE: Brits abroad - 12/11/2006 2:58:17 PM   
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RE: Brits abroad - 12/11/2006 3:04:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd actually head to the UK.  My sub is from there and living over here (US) currently, but we have considered moving to England at some point (especially since the INS is not really playing nice at the moment).  I've always enjoyed the people and culture in the UK, and like the fact that Brits are different from us, but have some similar characteristics. 

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/11/2006 3:05:43 PM   
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One man's 'shit hole' is another man's heaven!


Well yeah. I go back from time to time and see friends I used to go to school with sat in the same corner of the pub wearing the same jacket and probably would be doing the same job if the same job existed so there are enough people who don't think it is a shit hole. I tend to think that is because they have never looked at the place from the outside but that is just my opinion and I got out so who am I to complain about the place.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/11/2006 3:11:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well those who only know their own little world know nothing different so your'e right.  I know people like that too and i feel sorry for them in a way.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/11/2006 3:22:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've never quite forgiven any of my grandparents for immigrating to the US.  I understand why they came, and they didn't have much choice (my grandmothers were sent here by thier family when they were young, my one grandfather was a political refugee and my other grandfather was born here) but I wish they would have gone to someplace with a functional welfare state. 

I just want to live in a country with a functional welfare system.  No "third way" country.  No snow. Rain's ok.  Generous caregiver's pensions and universal health care are a necessity, at least in my little dream world.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/11/2006 5:38:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		......going somewhere on holiday (vacation) is very different from working there & / or living there. I'm counting every month and minute until I can go back to the UK permenantly. The uncomprehending questions from my American colleagues when they discovered I had rejected an extension to my stay was really funny. Tasting the grass on the other side of the fence is really worth doing because sometimes you find that actually its straw, expensively tarted up with green paint and then exesively marketed by people that have never been anywhere else, with a good load of preservatives and other fake ingredients added.................!

Can't wait for the lush meadows of the Border Marches. Only real problem with the UK is that to much of the "proper England, Wales and Scotland" is disappering.

I always like my visits to Scandanavian countries.....apart from price of booze.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/11/2006 11:35:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		My brother and a friend lives in California and they both love it. I went to stay with both my brother and friend at different times for awhile and couldn't get on with the place, I found it rather anemic and boring but then my brother is into a materialist hedonistic lifestyle. Big house, big car and....well...plastic smiles. Maybe California has been oversold by Hollywood and when you get there there is no way the place can live up to how it is presented to the world. Maybe I just hate the climate and living in air conditioned houses. I've settled found my niche in Amsterdam. I literally meet new interesting people on a daily basis through my work and the local cafe culture. I love the place. Britain isn't so bad. I just grew up angry with the place because of my position in it.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 3:45:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I quite fancy Bulgaria - but on my own terms.

I have in mind to write to the Bulgarian president, requesting permission to set up a British village in the country. Then, by way of a cooperative, bring together around fifty selected kinky couples/ families with the skills to build and run said village; around 200 people say, live off the UK dole system (a fortune in Bulgarian terms) and retire happily to a life more fitting to me as Oberkommandatrix of the settlement.

The above has led to a serious offer by one guy who would be desperate to live in such a place; mind you, he's also deadset on marrying a young lady from the Solomon Islands, whose mother owns one of the islands. What a shame he's 30 years too old for her. But then again, who wants to live in a tropical paradise when the winter ice and summer heat of Bulgaria is on offer?
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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 4:25:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I moved here to Myrtle Beach from New Hampshire 40 miles North of Boston.
Plenty of Brits and Irish in that area!
Here we have a few.
This area's nice weather, 60 miles of sand beaches, great restaurants, entertainment and cheap housing costs in comparison to New England make it very worthwhile.
You can buy 3 condos here for the price of one in Boston.
Many people are "discovering" this area and moving here.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 5:25:23 AM   
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I just want to live in a country with a functional welfare system.  No "third way" country.  No snow. Rain's ok.  Generous caregiver's pensions and universal health care are a necessity, at least in my little dream world.



A dream world is certainly a good place to start looking for a functional welfare system, but i think it counts as cheating for the purposes of this survey. Judges?

i've got tough criteria. English as the primary language. No bummer religious restrictions. Have to be able to own firearms and large, noisy automobiles, and indulge in depravity and debauchery without too much legal hassle. Decent weather is a must. There really aren't any countries i can think of that fit the bill other than the U.S., and increasingly small portions of it to boot. i think my first choice would be California circa 1955 or so. i'd consider Texas (after all, by European terms it is a country).

i do agree that the U.K. has completely gone off the rails politically... y'all scare me sometimes.

...dave

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 5:30:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		The people you live alongside is probably the biggest factor we seem to have made a bad choice with suburban desert hell.  The neighbours are so busy fighting to earn every penny, when actually there all pretty well off already but can't see it because they don't lok anywhere else.
Its a lot of the smaller things that grate such as general bad manner, people don't even look behind them when they go through door, let alone ctually hold it open for the next person. The value placed on crap and bigotry is also something which after a while you just give up with. The nicest people we meet tend to be those working in some of the shops, particulalry Borders bookshop, but again its noticable how rudly they are treated by many of the locals. You can find similar faults in the UK but here is a harsh callousness here where they try to make out they are so caring by giving things to charity, which they actually do for tax reasons and to make them selves feel superior, rather than for real compassion reasons.t's not all Americans but it is a large proportion of the those around here. Smaller town "folk" seem better.
O yes and the petty bureaucracy, paper work and jumping through hoops for the sake of the hoops drive you mad. And as for the medical system and working out your insurance entitlements..................what a waste of time and effort.
 
One last thing, the traffic jams to get into nutter, church sects of the self righteous gloater are mind blowing. I'm glad that I know I'll be leaving in a year, I'd hate to be poor and in the USA......................actually being compartively comfortable and in the USA has not been that good either !!!!  lol.  Country side and smaller town USA is nicer.....
 
 



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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 6:15:13 AM   
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O yes and the petty bureaucracy, paper work and jumping through hoops for the sake of the hoops drive you mad. And as for the medical system and working out your insurance entitlements..................what a waste of time and effort.
 
One last thing, the traffic jams to get into nutter, church sects of the self righteous gloater are mind blowing. I'm glad that I know I'll be leaving in a year, I'd hate to be poor and in the USA......................actually being compartively comfortable and in the USA has not been that good either !!!!  lol.  Country side and smaller town USA is nicer..... 
 


For all my brother talks about loving it out there, he says he'll be on the next plane home if he has a serious long term health problem. That goes for my friend too whose last visit to Britain was for a health problem. They are both doing well but neither will get rid of their British passports should their luck change. My brother said the US is no place for the luckless.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 6:18:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		How about - just maybe - that we will be happy wherever we are as long as we are with the right person etc. Maybe we only get miserable with our home town / countries because we are unhappy with our lives in general?
Just a thought

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 6:29:06 AM   
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How about - just maybe - that we will be happy wherever we are as long as we are with the right person etc. Maybe we only get miserable with our home town / countries because we are unhappy with our lives in general?
Just a thought


I don't think any place is better than any other, some people are just more suited to some places more than others.

For me, being in the wrong place with the right person created a disaster. I'd rather be in the right place with the wrong person and change the person if necessary but that is just me.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 6:37:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I never thought about that. Right person - wrong place - i guess its like right person - wrong time to a certain degree.
That teaches me to think before ive had 3 cups of coffee and several cigs

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 9:19:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		petdave, I was thinking about a Scandanavian country, but, then I remembered the snow, and decided it wouldn't do.  So, I thought, wheres a place that's just like Sweden, but without snow?  And, I couldn't come up with anything.

Besides, I don't know much about Sweden, just what I've read in books, so even that country is kind of a mirage, no doubt made prettier by lefty liberals in the US wondering how come our welfare system sucks so bad, relative to other industrialized nations.

I have a friend in Toronto and sometimes I think about going there but thats just because I have a friend there.  Its hard for me to imagine going to some random place where I don't know anyone. 



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RE: Brits abroad - 12/12/2006 11:45:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I truly wouldn't leave England for anywhere, I've lived in France, America and Spain and (weather excluded) I wouldn't be anywhere else.  I adore England.  And I probably directly oppose Meat on his views of London, it's the most beautiful city I know.  (Especially the grass outside Alexandra Palace, mainly because of a woman called Hazel and her amazing oral talents)

But if I had to live anywhere else it would be Ireland or America.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/13/2006 2:27:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ten years of driving (fighting) my way to work through the London traffic or on an underground that keeps breaking down (though for some reason the underground doesn't admit to this but says their is a man on the lines at Whitechapel) and I've had a belly full of London. While I can see EnglishDomNW romantic attachment to a piece of grass outside Ally's Pally, I have a similar one for London Fields with a young French woman called Sylvie, it doesn't change my mind. In fact I collected a few romantic plots of land in my ten years, including a particular tree in Lincoln's Inn Field where a young probation officer called Sue gave me an exquisite blow job. Does it make me feel better about London? A little. Would I want to live there again? Hell no! Well not without the promise of being regularly destressed by beautiful young women.

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RE: Brits abroad - 12/13/2006 3:02:32 AM   
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If you left your country, where would you go and why?


I'd go to New Zealand. Never been there.....but everything I've read tells me its a lot like Oregon as far as outdoor recreational activities. Plus.... I rather like the sub tropical climate. And hell....I think I could get Jasmyn to float a river with me





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RE: Brits abroad - 12/13/2006 7:47:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gypsygrl
I just want to live in a country with a functional welfare system.  No "third way" country.  No snow. Rain's ok.  Generous caregiver's pensions and universal health care are a necessity, at least in my little dream world.



A dream world is certainly a good place to start looking for a functional welfare system, but i think it counts as cheating for the purposes of this survey. Judges?

i've got tough criteria. English as the primary language. No bummer religious restrictions. Have to be able to own firearms and large, noisy automobiles, and indulge in depravity and debauchery without too much legal hassle. Decent weather is a must. There really aren't any countries i can think of that fit the bill other than the U.S., and increasingly small portions of it to boot. i think my first choice would be California circa 1955 or so. i'd consider Texas (after all, by European terms it is a country).

i do agree that the U.K. has completely gone off the rails politically... y'all scare me sometimes.

...dave



Petdave. if that's what you're looking for we have all of that here in Myrtle Beach, S.C.
They love loud fast cars here and there's indoor shooting ranges all over the place.
Most people here speak "Southern" English.
It's Dec 13th and the temp here is in the low 60's.
This (is) considered the "Bible Belt" but they don't bother people aside from the occaisional "Holy Roller" knocking at the door.
And one thing that everyone notices when they come here is how friendly the people are!

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