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Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 3:15:59 PM   
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This question has come out of some recent conversations I have had with some male friends and I was wondering others opinions..... is it possible for a man to be faithful....is it in their nature or even if they do try.. is it always a battle?

Another thing.. has anyone else observed that it seems that many male subs they encounter seem to lack fidelity?  A higher average then vanilla men? Perhaps many dabble outside their vanilla relationships.. or its the fantasy... or whatever...but I am curious of others opinions...and experiences...is there such a thing as a faithful man? or a faithful sub?


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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 3:19:24 PM   
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Don't see why not.  Yes men and women are different, but I don't believe that men are wired to be poly and women aren't.  I know plenty of men that are faithful and, as far as I know, have no desire for another woman.  That's not to say that they don't look...who doesn't?  But that's as far as it goes.

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 3:33:16 PM   
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I think a man can be faithful just as easy as a woman can.  I am not sure where people get the idea that women don't ever have the desire to step out also.  It's work to keep a relationship strong and going..from both sides.
 
I could be tempted and I am sure Master could also, it's the love and trust we have for each other that keeps us on the narrow.
 
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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 4:44:04 PM   
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My husband/slave told me that before he offered himself to me he was tempted a few times: he fell in love but knew that following this feeling would mean giving up his family, fighting over house and capital, paying for the kids and wife... To be short: he said that although he encountered a few times some lady he could relate to, that he did not want to go further.

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 4:51:13 PM   
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I'm with you Akasha.  Men and women aren't all that different when it comes to desires, etc.  Sure would like to know how this stuff gets started.

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 4:56:38 PM   
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What bizarre generalisation...

If you're wondering - females are [probably] generally more likely to be unfaithful (they stand to gain more from it, from an evolutionary biology perspective).

Speaking as a bloke, I've never been unfaithful to any partner - the idea of it is.. sickening. If I were prepared to be so, the relationship would already be over, no?

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 4:58:51 PM   
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To me fidelity is a choice each of us makes.  I'm no longer convinced that it is all that natural for either sex.
I also no longer believe in the kind of love where either party is so perfectly fantastic that neither partner is ever tempted by another in some way; so fidelity becomes a matter of respecting oneself and honoring one's word not to screw around as promised.    M

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 5:04:26 PM   
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 a friend sent me this today:

Remarkable Obituary
 
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Mr. Common Sense.
Mr. Sense had been with us for many years.

 
No one knows for sure how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.  He will be remembered as having cultivated such value lessons as knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm and that life isn't always fair.
 
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (i.e., don't spend more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not kids, are in charge).

His health began to rapidly deteriorate when well intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place.

 
Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate;
 
Teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch;
 
A teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
 
Mr. Sense declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer aspirin to a student; but could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

Finally, Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband; churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims.

Common Sense finally gave up the ghost after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot, she spilled a bit in her lap, and was awarded a huge financial settlement.

 
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust, his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.

He is survived by two stepbrothers; My Rights and Ima Whiner.


Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.

Moral of story both sides cheat because they lack common sense

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 6:02:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistrssM

This question has come out of some recent conversations I have had with some male friends and I was wondering others opinions..... is it possible for a man to be faithful....is it in their nature or even if they do try.. is it always a battle?

Another thing.. has anyone else observed that it seems that many male subs they encounter seem to lack fidelity?  A higher average then vanilla men? Perhaps many dabble outside their vanilla relationships.. or its the fantasy... or whatever...but I am curious of others opinions...and experiences...is there such a thing as a faithful man? or a faithful sub?




MistrssM,
If you really believe what you've written, I'm not certain why you're even here!  It seems totally counter-intuitive to me that a submissive male would be less faithful than a vanilla male.  More importantly, generalities are rather meaningless and it ultimately comes down to the trust that exists between individuals and the character of those involved when it comes to fidelity. 

Speaking only for myself, I can say that when I'm in love with a woman, I hardly notice other women at all.  If I do, its usually because they're making a spectacle of some kind to draw attention to themselves that was nearly impossible for anyone to have avoided at all and not because I was looking around.  I'm the kind whose fantasies are only about activities with the woman with whom I'm involved (a problem for me at the moment, since I'm not involved at all).  I could care less about the latest/hottest movie star or who is on the cover of "you name the magazine".  Its the inner beauty of a woman that I most want her to show me.  That's also what can make her the most beautiful woman in the world to me!  Until we begin to talk and she begins to show me that part of herself, she could be just another face in the crowd that until then I didn't have a reason to notice.  I could say more, but I think you get the idea that for me its what's on the inside that counts. 

So are there faithful men and faithful male subs?  You betcha!  Some of us are out here hoping to find a compatible Dominant woman who wants to find one faithful male sub she can have a lasting monogamous relationship with!  

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 6:16:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pixelslave

It seems totally counter-intuitive to me that a submissive male would be less faithful than a vanilla male.


One would think.  However, a large percentage of "submissive men" that I speak to are married or otherwise have someone in their lives....and are actively looking for a Domme behind their wives/SO's back regardless.  While I've never tracked what kind of percentage it was, more often than not that is indeed the case.

Go figure.

I'm not particularly hung up on monogamy these days, but "fidelity" is another issue altogether.

< Message edited by MsSonnetMarwood -- 12/16/2006 6:27:12 PM >


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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:19:03 PM   
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I am a male submissive who is married and I will tell you right now that I cheat on my wife. I cheat in a vanilla sex sense and in a D/s play sense with Pro Dommes. The reason I cheat is simple: she gained weight after having our 4 kids and never lost it - this is a total turn-off for me. She makes the excuse that taking care of the kids is a full time job but that is all BS. I have really gotten into being a slave and I am on this site seeking a younger, thin, hot woman to be my Mistress but she will have to be a Non-Pro; I am not going to pay to be a slave because that is too expensive. I just joined and I am pumped about getting into this lifestyle.

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:32:22 PM   
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If you are looking here, you aren't likely to have much luck other than with pros - just so you know.  People like you sicken me ... if you don't want to be with your wife, then divorce her and spare her the continuing humiliation of you cheating on her.

On topic - yes, there are males (unlike the poster directly above me) who are not louses, who don't cheat, who are honest and faithful.  And if there are males in general who aren't slimeballs, then there are submissive males who aren't as well *points to pixel and a few others who post on the board*.

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:34:25 PM   
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You're supposed to give us a heads up at the beginning of these sort of posts so we can put our drinks down before we start laughing.

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:36:29 PM   
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That is not fair or practical for me - I would lose my house, have to pay child support for fours kids, and alimony. She is lucky to have me - I provide a good home for her and I allow her spending money and once a month she is allowed to go out with her girlfriends so long as her mother is around to watch the kids. I think you are being judgemental and closed minded.

She gained the weight - I did not.
Plus I am not humiliating her because I cheat behind her back.
Now that I am considering becoming a slave this will complicate things - especially if I have to wear some type of special outfit or uniform all of the time - I will have to explain that to my wife somehow.

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:39:01 PM   
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Good luck finding ANYONE with your profile!

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:43:44 PM   
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Yes, I am being judgemental.  I've been cheated on and it sucks.  I'm seeing this from her perspective.  And for the record, as someone else mentioned, women get tempted too - and I remained faithful, so you can't even say "well, you never had the opportunity to cheat so you don't know where I'm coming from." 

And just wait until she gets her head on straight and decides to get some proof of you cheating ... you'll still be out on your ass and paying support.  Be a man and do what is right - either honor your vows to your wife or divorce her.  I don't give a hot damn who gained weight, you made a commitment, and "men" like you are why posts like the topic starter get made.

*edited to add*

I will now quit highjacking the thread.  Appologies to most.

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:44:24 PM   
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I have no idea what you are talking about - my profile is fine. Honesty is the best policy as I always say.

This is some welcome for me to this lifestyle.......Gheezzzzzz

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:46:18 PM   
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Excuse me, but aren't those four kids yours?  Why the hell shouldn't you pay child support?  You ALLOW her to go out once a month?  How freaking generous is that?  I'm surprise you don't have dommes falling all over for the opportunity to be with you.

Please!  Grow up.

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:47:15 PM   
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From my perspective any woman who gets cheated on got cheated on for a reason.

You did something wrong to cause him to do that. Your objective in a relationship, whether you are a Domme or not, should be to keep your man happy...........

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RE: Men and Fidelity - 12/16/2006 7:48:36 PM   
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I get it...this has GOT to be someone's idea of a joke.  I should say that you have got to be someone's idea of a joke. 

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