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President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 9:43:26 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Status: offline 		My admiration of this man grows every day. Not that I agree with his politics or policies, but as a dynamic driven leader he sets a high standard.

He represents what I wish a US candidate for president could bring to the table in the next election. He is focused on his country first. He couldn't care less about world opinion. He exploits the assets of his country to the fullest to achieve the goals he has set for it. He is a man of truth who speaks his intentions clearly, and puts in motion the programs and policies to achieve them.

He is not a dictator, he was voted in by the majority with a huge plurality truly representative of his county based upon the over 90% voter turnout.

He has insured his country is insulated from outside threats, both real and perceived through internal development of his nuclear program. He has taken advantage of the weakness of his country's enemies. He is proud of his country, his people, his religion, and himself. He makes no excuses for anything in his background.

There is nobody active, or on the horizon in US politics from either party, that compares to him in the US - Pity.

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Iran is now a "nuclear power," its President, Mahmoud Ahamdinejad, declared Wednesday, according to the Islamic Republic News Agency . Source: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342489,00.html  

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has predicted that Britain, Israel and the United States would eventually disappear from the world like the Egyptian pharaonic kings.
"The oppressive powers will disappear while the Iranian people will stay. Any power that is close to God will survive while the powers who are far from God will disappear like the pharaohs," he said Wednesday, according to Iranian news agencies. Source: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/20/061220094102.ixs3bo81.html 
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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 10:33:10 AM   
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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 10:52:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well you have a few facts wrong about him.  "It led to the victory of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the hardline mayor of Tehran, with 19.48% of the votes in the first round and 61.69% in the second. Ahmadinejad is believed to have won the second round because of his populist views, especially those regarding the poor people and their economic status. The election saw a turnout of almost 60% of eligible voters, seen as a strike back by Iran at the United States' initial allegations that many in Iran would be restricted from voting."  Also there is something called the Guardian Council in Iran who disqaulifies candidates before the election, and can dismiss Ahmadinejad at will without having to give a reason.   His promise of 100$ bonus to everyone in Tehran if elected got him a lot of votes. 
I will agree he is not a dictator, he is the dismissable at will front for a dictatorial theocracy. 
Your post sounds like many I have heard with similar admiration for Hitler or Stalin (not for their goals but for thier zeal, focus, and brilliance).  But were they really brilliant?  What did Hitler really get, millitary defeat, a ruined country, millions of dead Germans, humiliation, occupation, and division.  How is that brilliant?  How is a nuke exchange with Isreal going to help Iran?  How is a war with the west going to help Iran?  How is war with the Sunnis going to help Iran?   Amadinijad bought votes with high oil payments.  That is what he bases his popularity on, and that is based on oil exports at high prices.  The day the Persian gulf closes for oil transport(war) is the day his regiem goes under.  The Saudis are considering flooding the market with oil, back into the 20-30 range, if Iran doesn't cool it in tradiitional Sunni areas.  He can't fight the world, and his people don't want to.  Infact his slate just lost in the local elections this week, he is much weaker in Iran than a week ago. 

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 10:59:22 AM   
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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 11:19:55 AM   
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Well you have a few facts wrong about him.  "It led to the victory of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the hardline mayor of Tehran, with 19.48% of the votes in the first round and 61.69% in the second. Ahmadinejad is believed to have won the second round because of his populist views, especially those regarding the poor people and their economic status. The election saw a turnout of almost 60% of eligible voters, seen as a strike back by Iran at the United States' initial allegations that many in Iran would be restricted from voting."  Also there is something called the Guardian Council in Iran who disqaulifies candidates before the election, and can dismiss Ahmadinejad at will without having to give a reason.   His promise of 100$ bonus to everyone in Tehran if elected got him a lot of votes. 
I will agree he is not a dictator, he is the dismissable at will front for a dictatorial theocracy. 
Your post sounds like many I have heard with similar admiration for Hitler or Stalin (not for their goals but for their zeal, focus, and brilliance).  But were they really brilliant?  What did Hitler really get, millitary defeat, a ruined country, millions of dead Germans, humiliation, occupation, and division.  How is that brilliant?  How is a nuke exchange with Isreal going to help Iran?  How is a war with the west going to help Iran?  How is war with the Sunnis going to help Iran?   Amadinijad bought votes with high oil payments.  That is what he bases his popularity on, and that is based on oil exports at high prices.  The day the Persian gulf closes for oil transport(war) is the day his regime goes under.  The Saudis are considering flooding the market with oil, back into the 20-30 range, if Iran doesn't cool it in tradiitional Sunni areas.  He can't fight the world, and his people don't want to.  Infact his slate just lost in the local elections this week, he is much weaker in Iran than a week ago. 


Lucky dog,
Lieberman lost the primary, ran as an independent and won. Does that make him any less legitimate than Ahamdinejad? There are some that argue the Supreme Court of the US made the same determination for declaring the president of the US in 2000, as the Guardian Counsel in Iran. The US laws of citizenship, disqualification for those with felony convictions, and even he requirement of showing an ID prior to voting in some circles are all considered exclusionary. They call their review the Guardian Counsel. Is there a difference?

M.A.D. worked for the world from the early 50's until the breakup of the USSR. Iran's nuclear capability is no more or less a threat to Israel than the USSR was to the US or Europe.

Playing to the poor and disenfranchised in his country is an issue? Sounds like the US Democratic Party platform. His $100 Bonus is only a cheaper version of the tax reduction promises of the Republicans.

A "front for the dictatorial theocracy"? Again, a parallel can be made to US politicians fronting for the capitalist theocracy of the US. Why argue the distinction of one deity to another?

The Saudis blow in the breeze to preserve the rule of their Royal Family. They are no different than the Shah was and should be subject to the same fate. If Ahamdinejad inspires the population of Saudi Arabia to rise up in similar fashion as the citizens of Iran did against the Shah; it just points to similar basic, fundamental goals. Maybe when it occurs the power base in Washington D.C will be as it was and a current day President Carter will again assist in the process. The birth and achievement of self determination is a painful process. If Sunni fight and kill the other Islamic factions with whom they've had dispute going back for a millennium it will just be part of the process.

I take it your comparing Ahamdinejad to Stalin or Hitler is a rhetoric; similar to those that make the same comparisons to President Bush. Anyone in a position of high office and power faces having those stones tossed at them. I don't know his "brilliance" I am only commenting on the quality of the traits he has as the leader of a nation. If in the future he and his regime fails or is removed, I won't be sorry. In the meantime, I only point out how his actions, words, and deeds compare to US politicians; and how weak US politicians are when the comparison is made.

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 12:47:05 PM   
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I don't care to throw my support or admiration to a man who discounts documented evidence of the slaughter of 5+ million people.  When Iran gets 'the bomb' (and I don't mean the bottle rockets that were dropped on Hiroshima, I mean the kind that a dozen would wipe out entire nations) I have no doubt they will make an effort to blackmail the world with it, as N. Korea is setting the precedent.

Golly, who wants to bet that N. Korea wasn't encouraged and funded in their research by their 'buddies' in Iran.


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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 1:14:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

My admiration of this man grows every day. Not that I agree with his politics or policies, but as a dynamic driven leader he sets a high standard.

He represents what I wish a US candidate for president could bring to the table in the next election. He is focused on his country first. He couldn't care less about world opinion. He exploits the assets of his country to the fullest to achieve the goals he has set for it. He is a man of truth who speaks his intentions clearly, and puts in motion the programs and policies to achieve them.

He is not a dictator, he was voted in by the majority with a huge plurality truly representative of his county based upon the over 90% voter turnout.

He has insured his country is insulated from outside threats, both real and perceived through internal development of his nuclear program. He has taken advantage of the weakness of his country's enemies. He is proud of his country, his people, his religion, and himself. He makes no excuses for anything in his background.

There is nobody active, or on the horizon in US politics from either party, that compares to him in the US - Pity.

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Iran is now a "nuclear power," its President, Mahmoud Ahamdinejad, declared Wednesday, according to the Islamic Republic News Agency . Source: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342489,00.html  

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has predicted that Britain, Israel and the United States would eventually disappear from the world like the Egyptian pharaonic kings.
"The oppressive powers will disappear while the Iranian people will stay. Any power that is close to God will survive while the powers who are far from God will disappear like the pharaohs," he said Wednesday, according to Iranian news agencies. Source: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/20/061220094102.ixs3bo81.html 



Mercnbeth:
Did you happen to catch the interview he did with Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes several weeks ago?
Whether you agree or disagree with the man you must agree he presents an interesting counterpoint of view.
thompson

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 1:15:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with Voltare...hard to idolize someone who says the holocaust was nothing but a lie...Who has wealth but keeps his fellow countrymen mired in poverty and ignorance....You donot have open access to internet in Iran and by chance you do it is heavily filtered with most of the filtering software coming from U.S companies( thank god for capitalism)  and you have to sign an oath only to visit islamic sites...the penalties for browsing non approved sites are rather stiff...lol...there is no freedom of press...it's his views or time to visit Allah. Culturally,they treat their woman worse than most guys on this site...Hey that guy is my hero too!...lmfao.

Your hero? Time to read some more biographies.

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 2:01:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

My admiration of this man grows every day. Not that I agree with his politics or policies, but as a dynamic driven leader he sets a high standard.

He represents what I wish a US candidate for president could bring to the table in the next election. He is focused on his country first. He couldn't care less about world opinion. He exploits the assets of his country to the fullest to achieve the goals he has set for it. He has taken advantage of the weakness of his country's enemies. He is proud of his country, his people, his religion, and himself. He makes no excuses for anything in his background.

There is nobody active, or on the horizon in US politics from either party, that compares to him in the US - Pity.



What a man eh, you admire exploitation and taking advantage of people. I hope you're in the minority over there.

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 2:17:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

My admiration of this man grows every day. Not that I agree with his politics or policies, but as a dynamic driven leader he sets a high standard.

He represents what I wish a US candidate for president could bring to the table in the next election. He is focused on his country first. He couldn't care less about world opinion. He exploits the assets of his country to the fullest to achieve the goals he has set for it. He has taken advantage of the weakness of his country's enemies. He is proud of his country, his people, his religion, and himself. He makes no excuses for anything in his background.

There is nobody active, or on the horizon in US politics from either party, that compares to him in the US - Pity.



What a man eh, you admire exploitation and taking advantage of people. I hope you're in the minority over there.


What should be done with him? He is representative of his people, duly elected. I've read on these very pages how the people in this region only need an opportunity for self determination - he is it! How can he be exploiting those very people?

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domiguy: I agree with Voltare...hard to idolize someone who says the holocaust was nothing but a lie...
Come now, I bet you also believe that two planes took down the twin towers, and building 7 just tumbled down because it was in the neighborhood? He has a valid opinion.

But again, not agreeing or disagreeing with any of his policies or politics. He has the integrity to stand behind his beliefs. I ask again, who compares on the US political arena.

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Voltare: When Iran gets 'the bomb' (and I don't mean the bottle rockets that were dropped on Hiroshima, I mean the kind that a dozen would wipe out entire nations) I have no doubt they will make an effort to blackmail the world with it, as N. Korea is setting the precedent
 
Pax Romana, Pax Americana, Pax Irania. One mans "blackmail" is another mans peace.

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 2:26:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

My admiration of this man grows every day. Not that I agree with his politics or policies, but as a dynamic driven leader he sets a high standard.

He represents what I wish a US candidate for president could bring to the table in the next election. He is focused on his country first. He couldn't care less about world opinion. He exploits the assets of his country to the fullest to achieve the goals he has set for it. He has taken advantage of the weakness of his country's enemies. He is proud of his country, his people, his religion, and himself. He makes no excuses for anything in his background.

There is nobody active, or on the horizon in US politics from either party, that compares to him in the US - Pity.



What a man eh, you admire exploitation and taking advantage of people. I hope you're in the minority over there.


What should be done with him? He is representative of his people, duly elected. I've read on these very pages how the people in this region only need an opportunity for self determination - he is it! How can he be exploiting those very people?

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domiguy: I agree with Voltare...hard to idolize someone who says the holocaust was nothing but a lie...
Come now, I bet you also believe that two planes took down the twin towers, and building 7 just tumbled down because it was in the neighborhood?

Edited to add:
He has a valid opinion. He just sponsored a symposium on the subject in his country and there was no international outcry of condemnation. His views must be shared or the attendance wouldn't have been as great as it was.

But again, not agreeing or disagreeing with any of his policies or politics. He has the integrity to stand behind his beliefs. I ask again, who compares on the US political arena.

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Voltare: When Iran gets 'the bomb' (and I don't mean the bottle rockets that were dropped on Hiroshima, I mean the kind that a dozen would wipe out entire nations) I have no doubt they will make an effort to blackmail the world with it, as N. Korea is setting the precedent
 
Pax Romana, Pax Americana, Pax Irania. One mans "blackmail" is another mans peace.

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 5:02:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are no American politician's that compare to him...however the leader of Skinheads, the K.K.K. etc and other equally impressive organizations would probably be his most similar equals in the States. (maybe Senator Joseph McCarthy..of Wisconsin...he really believed in getting those commies!)

How can you admire a man who doesn't allow the education of his people but has the wealth to make it happen...you have had some other posts...Mexican Illegals..and others...do you happen to be a member of any of the above mentioned groups?  It is one thing to have an opinion it is another to blindly adhere to a belief that cannot be backed up

As crappy as many of our politicians seem to be, I cannot think of a single person in power today who is as vile as the one you have chosen to pay homage to...I suggest you google Iran...under "human rights" or "education" or "Internet " or "living Conditions" or "free press". And if you are still under the assumption that he is a "great" leader of his people, then I can not see the need or use for any further conversation on this point.

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/20/2006 5:19:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok first you start with false election numbers to pretend he has more support than he actually does, why do you do that?  I stated specifically what aspects of Hitler I was comparing with him, his zeal and determination to reach his goals, not an endorsement of his goals.  I wrote that, why pretend I didn't?  How can you compare citizenship laws and disnfranchisment of felons to the controll of who can stand for office by an unelected council.  By the way in some states felons can not vote.  In all of them they can run for office.  There is no comparison at all.  The "capitalist theocracy" what the heck does that mean?   You think denying the Holocaust is a valid point?  Thanks for admitting you don't believe that planes took out the Towers either, that explains a lot of where you are coming from.  And there was certainly an international outcry over his confrence.  And you ignored my point that his slate lost power in the recent elections.  Not a sign of support from the people.  On the American scene, David Duke compares, he was even at his confrence.  I thank God we don't have any politicians taken seriously like Amanjinidad here....  Pax Irania?  Where is that?  Hundreds of millions of people live prosperous peacefull lives under the protection of the USA, where does Iran provide any such thing?

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/21/2006 3:51:01 AM   
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My admiration of this man grows every day. Not that I agree with his politics or policies, but as a dynamic driven leader he sets a high standard.

He represents what I wish a US candidate for president could bring to the table in the next election. He is focused on his country first. He couldn't care less about world opinion. He exploits the assets of his country to the fullest to achieve the goals he has set for it. He is a man of truth who speaks his intentions clearly, and puts in motion the programs and policies to achieve them.



Excellent post, Merc.  I completely understand where you are coming from and wholeheartedly agree.

The candor and conspicuous display of both {I've inserted Hugo Chavez also in my example} leader's internally nationalistic idealism is something that this country has sorely lacked for at least twenty years. Furthermore…..their devout and fearless stance stuffed in the face of imperialists exudes a confidence born on to its people {See Hamas}.

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He has insured his country is insulated from outside threats, both real and perceived through internal development of his nuclear program. He has taken advantage of the weakness of his country's enemies. He is proud of his country, his people, his religion, and himself. He makes no excuses for anything in his background.



ABSOLUTELY.  But I won’t extend him ALL the credit for that. The level of incompetence with regard to both the Clinton administration and the now Bush administration’s state departments handling of negotiations ala North Korea’s quest for nuclear weapons is what has paved the way for Iran to become a nuclear power.  

It basically told all of our potential enemies to hurry up and do whatever it takes to develop a nuclear weapons program; that way you’ll gain the kind of leverage that will repel the imperialists.

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There is nobody active, or on the horizon in US politics from either party, that compares to him in the US - Pity.



Wait a minute....what about Hilliary and Rudy? Manchurian candidate versus Machurian candidate 


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The day the Persian gulf closes for oil transport(war) is the day his regiem goes under.  The Saudis are considering flooding the market with oil, back into the 20-30 range, if Iran doesn't cool it in tradiitional Sunni areas.


This is a miscalculation.


The day the super tanker traffic in the gulf {ala the straits of Hormuz} is interdicted because of a war with Iran, is the day the speculative market with regard to oil will go completely out of sight. That in turn with be the death blow to the already very fragile dollar and perhaps collapse our whole economy.  

Remember, much of this countries GDP growth in the last eight years has been precipitated by consumer spending, not production. So when gasoline goes to four to five dollars a gallon an overwhelming majority of the populace will scale back its purchases in the periphery.  

A reduction in consumer spending weakens our economy, which in turn weakens the dollar against other currencies. And since oil purchased on the two biggest mercantile exchanges {London and New York} is enumerated in dollars, those selling the oil will have less purchasing power; which eventually leads to diversification out of the dollar.

Iran is protected against this because it's both nationalized its oil as a commodity and struck-up an alliiance with China and Russia via the Shanghai Coperation Organization ; where it can make state to state deals or trade in rubbles.





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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/21/2006 4:19:12 AM   
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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/21/2006 5:42:10 AM   
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I'd like to admire him with a 9mm bullet to his forehead and a few cruise missiles in Tehrani suburbs.

That's my kinda guy.

Mercnbeth, do you admire him enough to go live in Iran? Don't let the door hit you in the, you know where, on your way out.


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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/21/2006 6:03:02 AM   
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He has insured his country is insulated from outside threats, both real and perceived through internal development of his nuclear program. He has taken advantage of the weakness of his country's enemies. He is proud of his country, his people, his religion, and himself. He makes no excuses for anything in his background.



No he hasn't. If Iran doesn't negotiate over its nuclear policy you can bet that if the USA doesn't destroy Iran's nuclear programme, Israel will, with tacit agreement of the USA.

He hasn't taken advantage of his country's enemies weaknesses, his enemies have been charitable in the extreme in fighting an unnecessary war (Iraq) and getting themselve bogged down and allowing its client state (Israel) in the middle east to also fight an unnecessary war that has strengthened its enemies.

Iran's economy isn't doing well and with the threat of international sanctions it will do less well.

Meanwhile there is unrest and demonstrations in the universities. The majority of the country being under 25 and not born when the Iranian revolution occured. They want modernisation and freedom. Ahamdinejad has to decide between clamping down or liberalizing. Heads the opposition win, tails he loses.

Like all leaders that pretend to be strong, they seldom are and are really covering up their weaknesses. Take a note of Bush. The epitome of a weak character.

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/21/2006 6:06:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I honestly don't know much about him except for what the media reports(which is not generally a true reflection or not the whole picture). But I think I understand what you are saying.

Basicly, he says fuck the rest of the world and opinion and does what he thinks is best solely from the perspective of his country.

I can respect that.











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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/21/2006 6:32:11 AM   
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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/21/2006 6:38:14 AM   
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I'd like to admire him with a 9mm bullet to his forehead and a few cruise missiles in Tehrani suburbs.


I guess Arnold Amaury is still alive and well.

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