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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/21/2006 11:49:43 PM   
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No he hasn't. If Iran doesn't negotiate over its nuclear policy you can bet that if the USA doesn't destroy Iran's nuclear programme, Israel will, with tacit agreement of the USA.
Israel might….but in light of Kim’s lighting /launching of his new firecrackers, Bush doesn’t have the political capital to attack Iran. If Kim lights off another {bigger} firecracker {and he’s planning to} and Bush attacks Iran, there’s no way he can come before the people of this country and explain to them why he’s attacking Iran and not North Korea ; in light of it’s recent antics and the fact it has already launched missiles that have hit our waters.  

Let me remind you that Bush has a twenty seven percent approval rating and Cheney has between twelve and eighteen percent.  

Not to mention they are talking about sending another 20 -50 k worth of soldiers and marines back over to Iraq ; many of whom have already done two and even three tours.  

If I was in charge of the resistance movement in Iraq, I’d really begin to up the ante with improvised explosives and roadside bombs.  

Trust me……If Bush sends another 20 -50k worth of people over to Iraq and secretarian violence stays at it’s current level, we keep losing five to eight people a day….and more hostages are taken……You will see a small uprising in this country similar to that of Vietnam – And that will be the end of Bush and the Neocons.

We're tired of this shit....they're BANKRUPTING this country and the mainstream is beginning to see the big picture and understand that we are going to be paying for this for a long time to come.... And some are going to rise up.

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He hasn't taken advantage of his country's enemies weaknesses, his enemies have been charitable in the extreme in fighting an unnecessary war (Iraq) and getting themselve bogged down and allowing its client state (Israel) in the middle east to also fight an unnecessary war that has strengthened its enemies.


Sure he has....If you look back at both the face to face and six party talks, Ahamdinejad has basically used a very similar strategy as Kim - There's dialogue for a while, then the talk of concessions, then the concessions are repealed back - Delay Delay Delay, until you eventually win out.

Not to mention, most of the technology used in the design and simulation aspects of the weaponry came from Pakistan / China, via the greedy west.

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Iran's economy isn't doing well and with the threat of international sanctions it will do less well.


It's a good bet that neither Russia, China nor any of their Muslim neighbors will comply with any potential sanctions.

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Meanwhile there is unrest and demonstrations in the universities. The majority of the country being under 25 and not born when the Iranian revolution occured. They want modernisation and freedom. Ahamdinejad has to decide between clamping down or liberalizing. Heads the opposition win, tails he loses.


Yeah.... I saw that - You have a good point there. And maybe something will eventually happen.

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Like all leaders that pretend to be strong, they seldom are and are really covering up their weaknesses. Take a note of Bush. The epitome of a weak character.


Well....something in my gut tells me that Ahamdinejad may already have a nuclear weapon. He very well could have obtained it on the black market from Russia - So I don't think he's bluffing. That's just a feeling tho......



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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/22/2006 3:34:32 AM   
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Iran's economy isn't doing well and with the threat of international sanctions it will do less well.


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It's a good bet that neither Russia, China nor any of their Muslim neighbors will comply with any potential sanctions.


http://www.antiwar.com/orig/porter.php?articleid=10109

And yes.....we do have to worry about Shotgun. But maybe the world will get lucky and his bum ticker will blow it's last fuse and he'll end up like Sharon.

Somehow I just don't think the ''coalition of the willing'' is going to be able to live up to the mythical status that's been projected upon it.



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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/22/2006 6:34:57 PM   
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My points were.

1. Iran is a democracy, you said yourself about asking the clerics to stay out and see what happens? What happened is that there were protests and the council was forced to reverse its desicion.

2. Mahmood isn't ignoring basic human rights and mis-treating women himself, he inherited the situation and is actively liberalising.

I am well aware that Iranians aren't Arabs but I'm sure you'll agree that most westerners aren't aware of or don't care about that distinction, if many on here do then I apologise for oversimplifying.
To say Palestine isn't a democracy is REALLY pedantic. Its an area of land ruled over by a democratically elected government, if you think it isn't technically a country that's up to you, but it doesn't make any difference to my point that the citizens of arabian democracies dislike or even hate the western interference, whereas the wests friends tend not to be. The suggestion being that there is a good reason that the terrorists in these areas get kinda annoyed when the western leaders talk about the importance of democracy one day then condem the actions of and/or refuse to condem the bombing of arabian democracies the next....

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/23/2006 12:26:29 AM   
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Palestine is not a democracy in any sense, it is not a functiong government of any sort.  Differing factions controll different Millitias, and they are currently fighting in the streets.  Where do you think all the bullets go, Women and Children are being killed left and right, never hear that body count on the News do you?  But that is Old News, Palestinain factions, all with outside backers, have been killing each other for decades.  With Iran(Shias) pumping help to Hamas and Hezbollah in the North, the Sunnis will up thier aid to the Sunnis(Fatah/Arafat's Cronies), and the violence is going to get a lot worse. 

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/23/2006 12:57:09 AM   
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The overwhelming majority of Palestinians are killed by Israeli troops. The majority of deaths caused by Isaeli assassinations are women and children for example.

The cutting off of Palestinian funds whether tax or external donations by Israel and the cutting off of funds by EU countries has created the conditions where unrest forments. However, to suggest that Palestinians are killing Palestinians left right and centre is a gross exaggeration of the truth.

http://www.btselem.org/English/Statistics/Casualties.asp

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/23/2006 11:58:39 AM   
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It's a good bet that neither Russia, China nor any of their Muslim neighbors will comply with any potential sanctions.


Seems this wasn't such a good bet.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/23/un.iran.ap/index.html


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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/23/2006 3:12:15 PM   
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I'd like to admire him with a 9mm bullet to his forehead and a few cruise missiles in Tehrani suburbs.


...suburbs? Nothing like going for a good soft, civilian target eh? Who are the terrorist wannabes again?

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/23/2006 4:38:21 PM   
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I'd like to admire him with a 9mm bullet to his forehead and a few cruise missiles in Tehrani suburbs.


...suburbs? Nothing like going for a good soft, civilian target eh? Who are the terrorist wannabes again?


And there is me thinking being a terrorist in the suburbs was fucking your neighbour's wife.

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/24/2006 2:56:58 PM   
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What world leader has the right to say that a certain country does not have the right to exist. What world leader has the right to start World War Three, that can and would wipe out 8 to 10 million people. If any world leader out there, Is that hard pressed to start a World War. My thinking is, That We should start with Him and his 20 immediate family members first, Ahead of line you might say, let them be the first ones on this list of 8 to 10 million people to go first, After all he started it. Works for Me, Preferably his family than mine. I really believe that all World Leaders needs to sign a contract that states that fact. This is where the United Nations come in. Simply put End of Wars. Just think, If You was the next one in line to take his place as a World Leader, would you be willing to finish what he had started. After seeing him and his family just wiped out, I think not, You would cherish life for the very first time. knowing that You and Your family has the right to exist in this World, Your wife and kids would love you for it. By the way I’m a retired Vet served in Gulf War One. Master William

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RE: President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad - My Hero! - 12/24/2006 5:31:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cageddungeon2


What world leader has the right to say that a certain country does not have the right to exist. What world leader has the right to start World War Three, that can and would wipe out 8 to 10 million people. If any world leader out there, Is that hard pressed to start a World War. My thinking is, That We should start with Him and his 20 immediate family members first, Ahead of line you might say, let them be the first ones on this list of 8 to 10 million people to go first, After all he started it. Works for Me, Preferably his family than mine. I really believe that all World Leaders needs to sign a contract that states that fact. This is where the United Nations come in. Simply put End of Wars. Just think, If You was the next one in line to take his place as a World Leader, would you be willing to finish what he had started. After seeing him and his family just wiped out, I think not, You would cherish life for the very first time. knowing that You and Your family has the right to exist in this World, Your wife and kids would love you for it. By the way I’m a retired Vet served in Gulf War One. Master William




Actually......it was never reported in the west....but that 'wiped off the map' quote turned out to be complete b*****ks. The accurate translation is 'the Zionist governance of Al Qods should be stopped', which is just a little different from 'Isreal must be wiped off the map'.


PS: Al Qods = Jerusalem

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