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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/24/2006 5:04:09 PM   
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On the dark side of this I have read actual stories in the news of people held captive like this and they were sort of like the book/movie Misery.
Mostly the victims were handicap in some way and where being exploited sexually or financially the real life details were depressing and not very hot. The people they held captive were not strong enough to escape for some reason including malnourishment.  

So its one of those be careful what you wish for scenarios you may find it.  

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/24/2006 9:21:48 PM   
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The more I think about it the more I like the idea (fantasy) of some sort of imprisonment or captivity with in reason. The dependency would just be a natural by product of this sort of relationship I think.
Maybe the goal is to feel like a captive in the relationship at all times.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/24/2006 9:30:39 PM   
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This may be considered athwart amidships, but try it out anyhow.

Consider a siberian tiger.....
Very hard to hold dominion over any space they inhabit, yet it can be done Now, they have keepers that feed them and interact with them every day in zoos, and rub their little bellies and actually use their  'cattiness'  in  controlling them and thier response.

But, overall; for the most part you can partition their space, and minimize their sphere of control....in a very weak kind of way.

Who is dominant?  The ones that pay to see the cats caged up?  Or the ones that feed and water them and make them grow?

And when you think about what is really the best situation for the Siberian tiger, should they control it?  Or should they be controlled?

Well, some will get the gimmick and some won't, but I thought it worth mentioning in passing.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/25/2006 5:13:52 AM   
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I started this story a few years back about this fantasy and actually had forgotten about. It was about a guy that was worried about his father. He was an adult but lived in an apt over the garage while he attending college. For years his father would wake up Saturday morning to go play golf. At least this was the story he told his wife. The son, however knew he wasn’t going to play golf because one Saturday he didn’t take his clubs, yadda-yadda, he planted a trap and saw that his father never used the clubs. Now the mother was pasted away and the father woke up every Saturday morning and did not return until late Sunday evening.


  The son grew suspicious and decided one weekend to follow his father. He followed him to a gated residence where he entered a pass code. The son had to climb a fence and sneak in. He walked around the mansion and looked in windows. Finally he saw his father strung up being beat by a beautiful woman. He was shocked! Just as he got up to leave he turned around there was another woman dressed in a guards uniform with a massive Doberman.


  To make a long story short they imprisoned him, literally and brought the father in. In order for him to be released his father would have to sign his life, his possessions and be in full 24/7 service to the woman BUT first he has to go settled his affairs; sell the house, car, everything, which takes some time. Meanwhile the son is held hostage and treated as a slave. He is forced to remain shackled in the dungeon naked and with no regard except the woman does have him brought to her from time to time because she’s curious being the son of a man she knew for nearly 20 years. You see she always wanted the father to be her property really but he always used the excuse that he needed to stay for his son.. blah blah. So now she is interested in the son.


  That is my general outline and I did type some scenes but no ending. I’m going to work on this story.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/25/2006 5:58:52 AM   
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Not too long ago I read a book that had been mentioned in Marquis or Skin Two (I forget which one).  It is 'supposed' to be based on a true person, but I have my doubts.  'Chained Convict for Life - The Biography of Sabrina', JG-Leathers.

JG-Leathers is a somewhat 'known' person in the fetish community for making full (and intrusive) body restraints/clothes.  He is also a character in the book who communicates via email with this Sabrina.

The book, like it or not, would be an example of the OP.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/25/2006 6:31:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

I started this story a few years back about this fantasy and actually had forgotten about. It was about a guy that was worried about his father. He was an adult but lived in an apt over the garage while he attending college. For years his father would wake up Saturday morning to go play golf. At least this was the story he told his wife. The son, however knew he wasn’t going to play golf because one Saturday he didn’t take his clubs, yadda-yadda, he planted a trap and saw that his father never used the clubs. Now the mother was pasted away and the father woke up every Saturday morning and did not return until late Sunday evening.


The son grew suspicious and decided one weekend to follow his father. He followed him to a gated residence where he entered a pass code. The son had to climb a fence and sneak in. He walked around the mansion and looked in windows. Finally he saw his father strung up being beat by a beautiful woman. He was shocked! Just as he got up to leave he turned around there was another woman dressed in a guards uniform with a massive Doberman.


To make a long story short they imprisoned him, literally and brought the father in. In order for him to be released his father would have to sign his life, his possessions and be in full 24/7 service to the woman BUT first he has to go settled his affairs; sell the house, car, everything, which takes some time. Meanwhile the son is held hostage and treated as a slave. He is forced to remain shackled in the dungeon naked and with no regard except the woman does have him brought to her from time to time because she’s curious being the son of a man she knew for nearly 20 years. You see she always wanted the father to be her property really but he always used the excuse that he needed to stay for his son.. blah blah. So now she is interested in the son.


That is my general outline and I did type some scenes but no ending. I’m going to work on this story.


How about the old “double shock “ EC comics ending an older sister and mother are  living in this mansion enslaving the son was the plan all along and starting the next generation of male slaves?  

On a side note I watched the horrible remake of the wickerman which had good ideas but came off terrible. I love the idea of the heroic male hero stumbling right into a trap laid for him because he has to do what’s right.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/25/2006 8:10:18 AM   
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A few years back, a 'Master' contacted me and here is how he explained life with him would be like:
 
i would be placed naked in a small cell like room which had nothing in it but chains on the walls, a chamber pot, and a mat on the floor with a blanket.  i would not be allowed any outside contact....no phone....no family except to let them know i was okay.  He would bring me my meals.  i would only be let out to clean my chamber pot and for his pleasure at which time i would shower, be used, then put back.  i may also be taken out to serve others when he had company.  i was only to speak when spoken to and if i disobeyed in any way, i would be chained to the wall, blindfolded and gagged.  If i had to use the chamber pot then, it would be too bad....i would do my duty there then clean it up when i was unchained.  He worked from home so he would be there most of the time.  If he did go out, it would only be for brief periods so he was not concerned with a possible fire or other disaster occuring during that time.  So all of this would be 24/7.  The kicker....he would have all my teeth pulled so i could service him in the best way possible.  So in essence, i would be even less than a chained animal.  And this guy was serious too.
 
Obviously i was not interested in any of that but perhaps somewhere, someone is.  Is this the type of lifestyle you are talking about?
 
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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/25/2006 11:13:10 AM   
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It seems my initial post has really sent struck a chord with many people, and sent them onto a unique tangent. I am glad it has gotten some reaction, even if it’s not the reactions I was looking for.

adaddysgirl
If you are directing your question to me, I would have to say that you have answered part of my question(s).

My question: Are there any rare breed of Mistress’s / Dommes / Captors that want the absolute power and the arrangement that it provides.
Based on your post it’s seem there maybe some males Dominants interested in such a T.P.E., however I was gagging reaction from female Dominants.

At present the groups predominant opinion to the next question, “…is this something that would be considered fantasy or at best a play scene of a given duration.” Is, yes, this would likely be a play scene for a given duration, as many Female Dommes seem to seek and need companionship as well, This “level” appears to be tiring and lacking in interaction. Furthermore the predominant opinion is that this would likely more pleasing for the submissive then the Dom/me. It seems that many Dommes here would not derive psychological satisfaction of having such extreme control. It seems it may be possible, however it would be very unlikely to find a Domme interested in that “level” or type of play for long durations.

I want to take a moment and throw this into my message. What I have posted, for me, would be a long intense play session. Believe it or not I know what is attainable, and what is not.

A consideration I made some time ago was, what does happen later when I’m 70, if the boredom from this would didn’t kill me. Insanity? Likely.

The realities for me are this
I have value and interest in my life. (Just more for my partner.)
I want to submit, and give control and final say to my partner.
I have sexual fetishes
I enjoy BD, and it isn’t limited to my bedroom (I’m not much of a masochist.)
And like many women here, (This male) needs interaction as well.

One final note to my monologue, I want to point out that, although I have labeled myself as a submissive, I am a realist. (I know many of you have already taken the time to read my profile, and likely saw this)

So what was the purpose of this thread? To answer the question Are there any Mistress’s / Dommes that want the absolute power and the arrangement that it provides. Furthermore to have them elaborate on why they seek this.

B.T.W. What am I seeking, please see my profile.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/25/2006 2:22:25 PM   
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quote:

I have sexual fetishes
So what was the purpose of this thread? To answer the question Are there any Mistress’s / Dommes that want the absolute power and the arrangement that it provides. Furthermore to have them elaborate on why they seek this.
I'm glad to read you are a realist, and state you have sexual fetishes, and of course there is nothing wrong with stating what makes you hawt!

What I did want to respond to/disagree with is your description of inprisonment as the ultimate as absolute power/authority exchanges go...   To me, a slave is someone who defers to me about everything (maybe even how fast or slow he should breathe while in front of me); a slave is someone who obeys and complies period.    If a slave of mine really wanted to impress me, he would seek to learn what things I enjoy everyday (caging him is not it *hint*), and seek to provide them to/for me everyday with or without my asking first, and definitely with a positive attitude while doing it.  

Obviously I'm not against a slave having his fetishes if they match or at least are not diametrically opposed to those things I enjoy, but my point is being caged, or anally raped, etc. is hardly what qualifies one as a slave to moi.    M 

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/25/2006 3:49:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: enigmaslave

Are there any rare breed of Mistress’s / Dommes / Captors that want the absolute power and the arrangement that it provides.


check out my profile and think about how seroiously you want what we are looking for.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/25/2006 7:51:20 PM   
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Although, I am totally not into this type of play. I have come across some Dommes in my past who sought this totally slavery aspect. It was so extreme that She wanted the submissive to completely abandon thier enitre life including family members. Now of course, that does lend one to think there was some serious deviant and possibly violent behavior that could occurr. And it points to something said in a previoius post. What happens when the slave/submissive dies?

Honestly, I think it would be best left to a fantasy that has some limits. And is it truly healthy for anyone to be totally dependent on another willingly for existence? Where does ones self-worth come in to play? Are you a viable person before such capitivty? Anyway, enough of that...just chiming in on the topic.


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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/25/2006 8:28:14 PM   
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I discovered a situation  once that was a more realistic form of  control.. The wife was  in charge. And her  control extended to her taking her husband to work every day. So she had the car  all day. When her husband and her came home. She had a set schedule for him to do ..Which in cluded a  scheduled  run every night, rain or shine. Then he came home made the dinner while she dealt with all emails and mail sent to them. Then latter he would have other choires to do . His paycheck was deposited in her account. I do know that I use to see her on here and she claimed she was interested in female slave only and never ever mentioned his existense. The only way I knew of this is her openness to tell me from a casual conversation

To me that reminds me of a more real form of control.. Something that I believe happens more often than most of us  know...and not under the the idea of  living as a slave

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/26/2006 1:08:10 AM   
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What's funny about your story is that I've probably written quite a few of those over the years, and I keep being told by others that it's unrealistic and that I should focus on something different. My latest novel which is being published is exactly of that nature. A man surrenders his entire life to a woman who takes complete control, training him to be exactly what she wants from him for the rest of his life. One of my previous novels was one I published a couple of years back, and at the time, my mistress was a pro dominant who was well known in the scene, and she used to get SO PISSED that potential clients would show up and ask for the treatment that was from my book, thinking that if her slave wrote the book, it had to be something she offered as part of her session lifestyle.

But what no one really knew was that we pretty much did live the total control lifestyle. We stopped talking about it because the second you mentioned it, 10 people wanted to argue that it wasn't really total control as they created these strawman situations where total control wouldn't exist, as if we lived in their strawman world.

What I'd probably be seeking until my dying day is the imprisonment/total dependence lifestyle, but unlike the jaded beliefs of others, it's not an overbearing situation that is one sided where the dominant is serving the submissive. People just make these generalizing complaints, based on fantasies that don't actually have much to do with how this lifestyle becomes reality.


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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/26/2006 6:12:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

What's funny about your story is that I've probably written quite a few of those over the years, and I keep being told by others that it's unrealistic and that I should focus on something different. My latest novel which is being published is exactly of that nature. A man surrenders his entire life to a woman who takes complete control, training him to be exactly what she wants from him for the rest of his life. One of my previous novels was one I published a couple of years back, and at the time, my mistress was a pro dominant who was well known in the scene, and she used to get SO PISSED that potential clients would show up and ask for the treatment that was from my book, thinking that if her slave wrote the book, it had to be something she offered as part of her session lifestyle.

But what no one really knew was that we pretty much did live the total control lifestyle. We stopped talking about it because the second you mentioned it, 10 people wanted to argue that it wasn't really total control as they created these strawman situations where total control wouldn't exist, as if we lived in their strawman world.

What I'd probably be seeking until my dying day is the imprisonment/total dependence lifestyle, but unlike the jaded beliefs of others, it's not an overbearing situation that is one sided where the dominant is serving the submissive. People just make these generalizing complaints, based on fantasies that don't actually have much to do with how this lifestyle becomes reality.




You’re right about this. That has, by far, been my biggest pet peeve of all time. I read post from people and I just shake my damn head. Nothing is worse then an opinionated person that has no real substance to back a rant.


  I have often said that female domination is complex and perhaps all sexual alternatives are, however IMO female domination remains the most misunderstood. I have always felt since the day I birthed Goddess Dianna Vesta, that not was Goddess an archetype but that it stemmed much deeper, more complex and that all the aspects- dark-light-nurturer- destroyer, etc. evolved somehow deep in the minds/spirits of certain people. Of course I also believe in reincarnation so I believe the age of your soul determines your path.


  Now I will no doubt get a few replies to this from people who have read Jung and the like, spilling rhetoric from text, however I have LIVED and SEEN, WITNESSED and played part of this dynamic for years. In fact I became a professional because of my fascination with this. I was a lesbian wiccan woman with a dominant personality. When I discovered BDSM, especially female domination a big light went off. I knew there was something far deeper and more complex then what met the eye.


  Damn I’m not going into all that. My point is that you can have A with B. What this means is that there must clearly be a compassionate and spiritual foundation established in order to enact these extremes. I’m not saying that it can’t be done, it most certainly can and be the hottest thing on the planet, however it is those glimpse of love, gestures of empathy that give us permission to dive into hell. A person that heads on that path without this and is successful at arriving there most likely has mental problems OR is a damn experienced player. Now keep in mind that I have done 1000’s of sessions & with VERY experienced players from all over the world, however it is rare to find a mental masochist that just throws themselves in hook, line and sinker without great consideration.


  When I interview people that have been in the scene long as or longer than I, I always ask them if they notice a difference between then and now. There are noticeable things that are better such as communication and acceptance, at least on the board scale. I don’t remember there being so much judgment as I witness today. I mean so many people are quick to jump and tell people how to feel, what to think and how to act. That’s just bullshit. In the past there was protocol and respect for people. There is nothing wrong with bridling an opinion long enough to make a fair assessment. Rather then standing up on soap boxes and spouting out negativities over things you know nothing about, why not open your mind and explore a bit? This doesn’t mean to analyze but to investigate. I see far too many of you slamming doors rather then supporting the needs of another human being.


  You know I don’t go around shoving my views about female supremacy everywhere because it’s MY SCENE and I also know that many people don’t really understand it. That’s cool. Even the women at my site will tell you that I don’t use it as a venue to ridicule. Some women have dominant male partners and I have even invited their partners to a social. My job is to support and to be there when they ask question and to allow them a safe venue to explore aspects of female domination. They may or may never take the plunge and that’s ok.


  So here you have a guy that actually has a pretty cool fantasy and he seems highly intelligent and articulate. If I had never done this before I might be curious or inclined to at least investigate. Maybe there is some way we can each benefit from this scene in a non-sexual romantic capacity. In my mind I’m thinking that this guy has being harboring this a very long time and it’s become MAYBE a tad obsessive, however as I read his post and get to know him I realize he’s quite sane. So we negotiate our scene and together we explore.


  What’s in for the top if he’s all helplessly bound? I think that you forget the mental aspect of power and control which is the core of what motivates us in the first place. Does it require some work and effort, sure it does. You’re either into it or not. That’s the really wonderful and intriguing thing about ALTERNATIVE sexuality is that is can stimulate on so many levels. So if one seeks fulfillment physically, sexually, emotionally, spiritually, mentally and YES even financially, then why not if they have a willing participate. 


  I am a little amazed at the intolerance I’ve seen here. I’m also amazed at the lack of respect. Having a opinion is one thing.


  Oh damn I have too much work to do and this went WAYYYYY on and on! Lol- see what happens to me after too many cappuccinos?


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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/26/2006 6:47:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

What's funny about your story is that I've probably written quite a few of those over the years, and I keep being told by others that it's unrealistic and that I should focus on something different. My latest novel which is being published is exactly of that nature. A man surrenders his entire life to a woman who takes complete control, training him to be exactly what she wants from him for the rest of his life. One of my previous novels was one I published a couple of years back, and at the time, my mistress was a pro dominant who was well known in the scene, and she used to get SO PISSED that potential clients would show up and ask for the treatment that was from my book, thinking that if her slave wrote the book, it had to be something she offered as part of her session lifestyle.

But what no one really knew was that we pretty much did live the total control lifestyle. We stopped talking about it because the second you mentioned it, 10 people wanted to argue that it wasn't really total control as they created these strawman situations where total control wouldn't exist, as if we lived in their strawman world.

What I'd probably be seeking until my dying day is the imprisonment/total dependence lifestyle, but unlike the jaded beliefs of others, it's not an overbearing situation that is one sided where the dominant is serving the submissive. People just make these generalizing complaints, based on fantasies that don't actually have much to do with how this lifestyle becomes reality.



You need to put up links to your books, littlesarbon... come on, that's the only way we'll ever find them.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/26/2006 8:10:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: enigmaslave

It seems it may be possible, however it would be very unlikely to find a Domme interested in that “level” or type of play for long durations.

I want to take a moment and throw this into my message. What I have posted, for me, would be a long intense play session. Believe it or not I know what is attainable, and what is not.

A consideration I made some time ago was, what does happen later when I’m 70, if the boredom from this would didn’t kill me. Insanity? Likely.

The realities for me are this
I have value and interest in my life. (Just more for my partner.)
I want to submit, and give control and final say to my partner.
I have sexual fetishes
I enjoy BD, and it isn’t limited to my bedroom (I’m not much of a masochist.)
And like many women here, (This male) needs interaction as well.



Here I think you've hit at the core of one of the potential pitfalls of the long-term implementation of this type of scenario.  I'd compare it to what happens to a prisoner who is put into solitary confinement for too long a period of time.  As you've noted, you do need interaction as well and your mental health would eventually suffer as a result of extended confinement without sufficient interaction with your captor. 

So, perhaps this leads to a follow-up question.  Does your scenario include the potential torment of some kind by your captureress beyond being physcially isolated? 

Examples: Would she verbally torment you with comments about your inability to escape?  Would she physically torture you in some manner such as periodically hosing you down with cold water?  Would she beat you or use you for some other purpose of her own design before returning you to your isolation cage? 

These kinds of things might provide just enough interaction to keep you mentally stable, yet otherwise in your prison.


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So what was the purpose of this thread? To answer the question Are there any Mistress’s / Dommes that want the absolute power and the arrangement that it provides. Furthermore to have them elaborate on why they seek this.



This last part is where I think you perhaps set yourself up for failure: by not stating this as your purpose up front.  Instead, the OP gave readers the impression, or allowed readers to jump to the conclusion, that what you described was what you wanted in real life and was in fact your desire (or troll as some would say); not an invitation to discuss what Dommes would find appealing about the scenario as well as an invitation for them to elaborate on why they would seek it and what they would seek to benefit from it.  Instead, it became a reaction to your perceived desire for it as opposed to an open discussion about the concept of it, although some of the latter did occur.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/26/2006 8:41:01 AM   
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littlesarbonn, I was really hoping to hear you weigh in on this topic.

I respect and value your opinion, as I have seen many of your posts, and I feel; quite often; that we are on the same wave length. There other reasons I respect you and your opinion as well: your choice of employment and you seem to have some depth of knowledge to many related topics.

If I may be presumptuous, I think forfeited control and virtually complete dependence is what we are mostly talking about. Furthermore I think we are mutually agreed, it would be nice to have a few episodes of imprisonment thrown in for good measure from time to time. I know that would really work for me. But I don’t think that would work or be of interest for 97% of others on here.

You mentioned having written books on this topic. It seems there are others that have this talent as well. Some of us pursue our fetishes through making art, writing books, or acting (through stage or sexual for play.) As most of already know, many of our fetishes stem from events or moments from our childhood, and pursuing our fetishes is a way of coping or compensating for this events. I know I am no different.

You reaffirmed my paradigm littlesarbonn, when you stated. “People just make these generalizing complaints, based on (their perceptions) that don't actually have much to do with how this lifestyle (can) become (a) reality.” Perhaps that is the majority of issue. Many here are playing the bedroom or home editions, of what a very select few truly peruse as a lifestyle. Those non lifestyle people don’t seem to have the motivation or desire to “Up the Ante”, and therefore can’t fathom concepts that not only exceeds but substantially leaps beyond the parameters of their personal comfort.

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Are we not here at the “Collar Me” message boards to share our ideas in a safe and confrontation free environment and to find other like minded persons? If so, then those that have taken the substantial leaps beyond the parameters of the non lifestyle people should not be limited or constrained to those who are not at the same level. The non lifestyle people that are projecting their limiting beliefs are actually hindering the purpose of this board

I must admit, I was bemused by one person who said it was not of interest to them because “Its sounds like too much work”. That reaction is so typical of our Nintendo generation personality. My interpretation of what was said would be, they desire to be in control and want it all now, yet not having any desire, interest or understanding of how to work for it. Such comments reminds me of the school “cliques”, where the most popular persons opinion became the homogeneous opinion. That type school bullying tended to stifle creative thought, and worse disallowed those with differing opinions to express them with out feeling like an outcast

A last thought.
I am a highway coach bus driver; I have many people who insist that because they drive a (2500 lbs) car that they know so much better then I. I often calmly tell them, that in the last 2 years I have accumulated more then 170 000 miles in a (25 ton) bus, all accident free, When they have reached that level of driving mileage and experience I will welcome there opinions.

We are all at different levels in this in this forum. This forum is a place to learn and find like minded people. No one person has all the answers. With out forums like this, people can’t grow and learn new things, and worse may do something, negatively and substantially life altering.


BTW pixelslave

For those that chose read, and respond based on their emotion, I can only respond by saying they are showing their personality traits.

< Message edited by enigmaslave -- 12/26/2006 9:15:21 AM >


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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/26/2006 9:24:18 AM   
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(Blushes), what is OP an acronym for?

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/26/2006 9:27:35 AM   
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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/26/2006 9:29:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: enigmaslavewhat is OP an acronym for?


(    )   Oppressive Person

(    )   Original Poster

(    )   Old Pouser

(    )   Ordinary Peon

(    )   Orange Pickle

(    )  None of the above


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