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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/27/2006 11:03:00 AM   
devoT


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Status: offline 		Even kept fish are not prevented from doing what they are naturally evolved to do.

As a sub, I find the idea of being fully owned hot. But in reality I'd go insane in only a few days if I couldn't exercise my mind to its fullest, no access to books, creativity, my computer, the world outside, other humans etc etc. Work might be a problem too: don't think my clients would really appreciate it LOL. My "cage" would have to be my whole house, and maybe even a few hundred yards outside, to prevent me from going insane.

Best kept as a fantasy, or a weekend reality, I think.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/27/2006 11:53:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: devoT

Even kept fish are not prevented from doing what they are naturally evolved to do.

As a sub, I find the idea of being fully owned hot. But in reality I'd go insane in only a few days if I couldn't exercise my mind to its fullest, no access to books, creativity, my computer, the world outside, other humans etc etc. Work might be a problem too: don't think my clients would really appreciate it LOL. My "cage" would have to be my whole house, and maybe even a few hundred yards outside, to prevent me from going insane.

Best kept as a fantasy, or a weekend reality, I think.


What about monks or other religious sects that don’t read, watch tv or have any communication with the outside world or take a vow of silence? It’s a sacrifice to achieve something much higher that is found inward.


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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/27/2006 12:36:31 PM   
devoT


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Status: offline 		I actually went on a retreat, many years ago, to a silent order of Franciscan monks. Although officially silent, in actual fact they are allowed to converse with each other at certain times (how else would they run their community?) They also do have a TV (which I didn't know about at first. Funnily enough, I was staying there when the last Pope was shot in 1981: I heard about it when I phoned home, and rushed off to tell the first monk I could find. "We know" was his reply. I was floored. Then later he told me about the TV LOL), phones and a library. So the sacrifice isn't quite what you think it is. It's not solitary confinement, monks and religious orders have had centuries of experimentation to discover what works best for the religious and contemplative life, and what drives people insane.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/27/2006 12:42:26 PM   
MsCameron


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Status: offline 		Smile.. you're assuming that somehow in enslavement your mind is no longer required.
What if one of the requirements were that you had to be fully up on current events? Or as an example, that classes for gourmet cooking were also a requirement?

A mindless dummy is not very interesting :)

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/27/2006 4:52:32 PM   
enigmaslave


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Status: offline 		Thank you, DiannaVesta, MsCameron, devoT, for bringing the Pot Pourri.

MsCameron, I am glad you presented that example. Classes for gourmet cooking would likely not have been something I would consciously chose to peruse on my own. I just have no personal motivation for it. Conversely doing it at the request of my Domme, that’s an entirely different “menu”. You have taken the statement “…slavery completely on the Dominant's terms, with no regard at all for what the submissive wants” and elevated it far beyond the face value of the statement. (I love women that can think outside the box).

Metaphorically speaking, you have taken my “Broth” and added your preference of spices and ingredients, therefore enhancing the soup, not only making it more palatable and pleasing but enjoyable for all those at the dinner table.

If I may use one more example;
After a long hard day of chores, (my previous) Domme asked me, what new apparatus did I want to explore. I merely said “the Stocks”, and nothing more. That was the extent of what I could think of.

After I was immobilized, she acted completely at her discretion. (She had prior knowlegs I wanted to have my limits pushed.) On this day CBT, and flogging and electric play were just a few of the events that chose to “expose” me too. I had no prior knowledge she would explore them, nor I did request them, nor can I say I would have. However I was so glad that she had the imagination, to take my “basic” idea, and manifested it into something bigger.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/27/2006 8:41:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am just wondering something enigma.  i have just read your profile and there seems no indication of the treatment you proposed in your OP.  Actually, your profile seems rather pointed.....pretty much stating who you are and what you are seeking.  But again, i see no allusion there to the confinement you are talking about in your OP. 
 
So is this something that just crossed your mind....or that you have fantasized about...or that you would like to experiment with?  i am just wondering because your profile includes interests and skills....desires and hard limits...but your OP seems focused on something completely different. 
 
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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/27/2006 10:18:55 PM   
enigmaslave


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Daddysgirl 
Recently while on another web site, “the slave register” I had heard of a person who implied that they were going to become a real slave. They were consciously giving up their freedoms and become apart of the “Slave Market.” They describe a 3 year training program, and at the end they would be sold to a master. I could go on, but it’s unnecessary
 
Whether true or fantasy, I don’t know nor do I care. But, it brought back memories of when I was in my young teen years. This was a fantasy to me at that time. 
 
I put this Post out there to gage whether it was of interest of others, and furthermore to see if it had potential as a life style. Yes I genuinely would like to experiment with this concept, and if I'm lucky make it a lifestyle.
 
When? Well I’m not sure, but hopefully before I’m 50.
 
You are correct in that my profile doesn’t scream that I want to be treated in this manner. I feel reserved about doing that just yet. When I first put my profile up I was very timid. What you see today is actually the out growth of several months work and consultations with several Dommes
 
My first impression of “Collar Me” was there were MANY profiles that already said stuff like that. I thought they looked foolish. Instead, I wanted to portray my self as a person who does want this as a lifestyle, and I wanted to appear serious.
 
The word “slave” is there. I know it is subtle and easily over looked. Even worse, it likely has a different meaning to everyone who has looked at my profile.
 
I hope I was able to answer your question


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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 12/28/2006 3:41:18 AM   
adaddysgirl


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Status: offline 		Yes, you did.   Thank you  :)
 
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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 1/12/2007 12:54:43 PM   
SlaveSubtoserve


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Status: offline 		Actually i've had a variation of this fantasy myself - though where i was used during the day to work for Mistress and then 'put away' every evening so to speak ad infinitum. i was able to live a bit of it out years ago for a summer helping a Mistress renovate Her old farmhouse up in Maine= hard work by day, total captivity/etc. by evening and whenever else not in use--- though i think the key is to minimize Her need for monitoring, caretaking, etc. and there are myriad ways to do that safely so......but i do appreciate and can understand your desires there.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 1/12/2007 1:59:35 PM   
kwizikl


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Status: offline 		I think we need to seperate the 24/7 slavery concept from the pure imprisonemnt idea.
Sure a domestic slave may sleep or be kept caged or in a cell, but that is different from true longterm imprisonment .
Longterm Imprsionment for me involves the idea of a wasted life of loneliness .solitude, waiting hoping .
Why Mistress/Master indulges themsleves elsewhere with there fun and full life, you languish at thier mercy , in misery and destitution .
i do not see that they have to be attending to you every hour on the hour. A week or month could easily go by without checking on a capitive. Cry foods and water could be provided, a bucket or ideally plumbing for waste. Some thick insulating but unwelcoming blankets, (them horsehair type would suit admirably), and you could leave him for i reckon a three month stretch at least.
I am amazed fewer Mistresses have not seen the light on thsi whole notion, as the male capacity to fetishise and obssess sexually is all in his mind, you simply stick him in a tiny cell with his fevered imaginings and let his head do all the hard work.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 1/12/2007 2:08:58 PM   
enigmaslave


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Status: offline 		Thank you for adding your thoughts. I see I am not the only twisted mind here.
( Dont'y get me wrong - its not a terrible thing to have twisted thoughts, I dont mind, Personally I dislike to be homogeneous.)

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 1/12/2007 5:23:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally doesn't sound like my cup of tea.

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 1/12/2007 8:27:00 PM   
mellian


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Status: offline 		While it may be appealing, and sure is to me, it would quite silly to mess up my life to get myself in prison or asylum or whatever just to I can "experience it". Oh I seriously considered it in the past when some periods of depression, which more like suicidelite as I vowed to take on life no matter how miserable it is than give it up long before it.

As for a Domme keeping me captive for a period of time, then they better do it well as I will not pretend and playdead, or allow a situation where the Domme is actually serving me as it would just ruining it for me, so better to put up some struggle and take advantage of opportunities to escape. If you are going to tie me, then you better tie me up otherwise I will escape, not matter how long it take to wiggle out. :p

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 11/8/2012 2:55:23 PM   
mrod100


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Status: offline 		For a slave single minded and devoted to serving his beloved Domme...his captivity would be time to spiritually focus on the task he has chosen...though with GREAT sacrifice...I would believe the Domme on some level would understand the sacrifice ....but a deal is a deal...each side understands.....Very intertesting to read tje responses here...thank you

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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 11/8/2012 2:56:43 PM   
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RE: Imprisonment or total dependence - 11/8/2012 3:04:56 PM   
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