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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/9/2007 9:38:52 AM   
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But its no reason to demonize Neitzche.

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/9/2007 9:42:35 AM   
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But its no reason to demonize Neitzche.


Who is demonising him? Look back and you'll see the word "cynically" and this should tell you my intention.

P.S. You been on the whiskey again?

P.P.S Your S has a Z appearance.

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/9/2007 9:48:01 AM   
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Neitsche is Peitsche........... 'nuff said, I think.

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/9/2007 2:47:35 PM   
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"God is dead" Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead" God

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/9/2007 3:32:04 PM   
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If it is not true, it is very well invented.

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/10/2007 4:34:03 AM   
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P.P.S Your S has a Z appearance.


de·mon·ize     /ˈdiməˌnaɪz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dee-muh-nahyz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -ized, -iz·ing.  Also, especially British, de·mon·ise. You Brits got some funny ways of spelling things!  (Sorry, just couldn't resist  ) DG

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/10/2007 4:44:40 AM   
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"Nietzsche is dead" God


If there is a god, it is doubtful Nietzche is dead but is down in the other place stoking the fires of hell.

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/10/2007 8:56:54 AM   
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......heaven for the climate.......hell for the company

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/10/2007 2:47:57 PM   
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You Brits got some funny ways of spelling things!  (Sorry, just couldn't resist  )



Hey, it used to be our language you know!

Anyway, aren't you almost British being from New York? :-)





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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/10/2007 3:00:35 PM   
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Hilter was a half-wit    who said dat ?

If this is true then I would hate to see what a full wit could bring about.

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/10/2007 3:55:35 PM   
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Not rreading this thread til now, cause mgd caught my attention, I'll jump in head first, and read the previous post l8r.  I'm gunna start by saying sadom needed to be eliminated, That could be a serious debate for a l8r post, a debate that won't bring him back, and fix the problems now.  On that note, we need to secure iraq, increase the troops there and eliminate the opposition.  Not saying that will be easy nor over night, but we need to do as was done before in previous wars.  commit ourselves and hold our position, we still have bases in germany and japan. It took years for those countries to rebuild themselves.  we have to closely monitor Iraq in it's growth.  americans have gotten way to used to convenience.  culture growth is not an overnight process.  They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, I don't agree with that, it just takes more time and understanding and alot more stuberness!  At the same time you have to lead them to learning and understanding on their own.  The question of oil is paramount on peoples minds.  Ca-ching is what everyone hears in one way or another.  I may be nieve, but I don't believe bush did this for oil.  really think he felt he had to finnish "daddy's" war.  Well back to my point.  we need to sell the oilto the world to pay for the debt of this war on us, to rebuild the iraq country.  After that it should be the Iraqi's to decide what to do with their oil.  We need to maintain a presence in the middle east to watch Iran.  That is the biggest reason to maintain a base in Iraq!  We need a place to launch from.  Iran is run by the Sh1thead that took US as prisoners in the l8 '70s.  We have to hold fast and not be shook down!
gotta run, more l8r



all whats in my mind when i read a post like this...

how much fear have some people of a relegion, a culture the do not know and may do not understand??
human nature... sadly.. to me


Religion? This has nothing to do with religion. These people hijack airplanes and crash them into buildings. They strap bombs to themselves and go into crowded supermarkets and blow themselves up. They stockpile weapons and ammunition in schools and mosques (a direct violation of international law). That's nothing to do with religion. I don't know of any religion that supports such things. Anyone insane enough to intentionally kill vast numbers of civilians or stockpile weapons in a school or a hospital is a very sick and dangerous animal. And I don't give a damn what religion they are. Such things are unacceptable in a civilized world. Completely and totally unacceptable.

And you think Germany is safe because you didn't go to Iraq? Boy have you guys got a big surprise coming. The fundamentals are already in YOUR country. Some of the 9/11 hijackers were schooled in Germany. And you think the US is the only country they are interested in attacking? Osama Bin Ladin is attacking the US because he thinks once the US falls, Europe will follow. He hates you people just as much as us.

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/10/2007 4:23:57 PM   
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Religion? This has nothing to do with religion. These people hijack airplanes and crash them into buildings. They strap bombs to themselves and go into crowded supermarkets and blow themselves up. They stockpile weapons and ammunition in schools and mosques (a direct violation of international law). That's nothing to do with religion. I don't know of any religion that supports such things. Anyone insane enough to intentionally kill vast numbers of civilians or stockpile weapons in a school or a hospital is a very sick and dangerous animal. And I don't give a damn what religion they are. Such things are unacceptable in a civilized world. Completely and totally unacceptable.



Do you really think they would have commited suicide if they didn't really think they were going to enter paradise as martyrs?  There is enough documentation as to how suicide bombers feel religious raptures before they go on a mission. They really do believe they will enter paradise, they have bought into it hook line and sinker.

Hitler was a Catholic and he said that killing Jews would be doing the Lord's work. Many Christians have tried to disown him but he was recorded too often confirming his religious beliefs. He told his adjutant General Engel in 1941 that he will always be a Catholic.

These people are religious, they have bought into it totally that they stop reasoning and that is exactly what religion does, tells you to accept what you are told as the truth. Some people really do!

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/10/2007 5:41:58 PM   
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Religion? This has nothing to do with religion. These people hijack airplanes and crash them into buildings. They strap bombs to themselves and go into crowded supermarkets and blow themselves up. They stockpile weapons and ammunition in schools and mosques (a direct violation of international law). That's nothing to do with religion. I don't know of any religion that supports such things. Anyone insane enough to intentionally kill vast numbers of civilians or stockpile weapons in a school or a hospital is a very sick and dangerous animal. And I don't give a damn what religion they are. Such things are unacceptable in a civilized world. Completely and totally unacceptable.



Do you really think they would have commited suicide if they didn't really think they were going to enter paradise as martyrs?  There is enough documentation as to how suicide bombers feel religious raptures before they go on a mission. They really do believe they will enter paradise, they have bought into it hook line and sinker.

Hitler was a Catholic and he said that killing Jews would be doing the Lord's work. Many Christians have tried to disown him but he was recorded too often confirming his religious beliefs. He told his adjutant General Engel in 1941 that he will always be a Catholic.

These people are religious, they have bought into it totally that they stop reasoning and that is exactly what religion does, tells you to accept what you are told as the truth. Some people really do!


Where in the Quran does it give permission for Muslims to go out and murder thousands of innocent people? It doesn't. These terrorists are believing in a perverse sect of the religion. They believe their duty on earth is to destroy the infadels and set up a world-wide taliban-like government. 

And the truth is that civil war is inevitable not just in Iraq but the entire mid-east. At some point, someone in the mid-east is going to have to stand up and put an end to that perverse part of Islam. And those fundamentalists won't go down without a fight, I can assure you that.

Islam needs a civil war. It needs a reformation period to rid itself of this radicalism. Otherwise it will continue to be stuck in the 8th century while the rest of the world continues to advance. And as time goes on, the conflict between Islam and the west will only increase until it eventually hits a breaking point. And at that point, we are going to start seeing mass numbers of people dying. Because the weapons being used on both sides are only getting more and more dangerous.

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RE: Saddam Hussein executed - 1/11/2007 2:25:15 AM   
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Where in the Quran does it give permission for Muslims to go out and murder thousands of innocent people? It doesn't. These terrorists are believing in a perverse sect of the religion. They believe their duty on earth is to destroy the infadels and set up a world-wide taliban-like government. 



It matters little one way or the other what it says in the Quran like it matters little what is in the Bible, believers believe in belief and make their belief fit their aims, that is the nature of belief, it is irrational. It is similar to fundy christians saying homosexuality and abortion is a sin, they will find some verse in the bible and quote it out of context to support their ideology. The Quran, like the Bible is incoherent. Most decent people choose what supports their decent morals and discard and ignore the rest of the vile writings. Some will focus on the vile, vindictive writings in holy books and act accordingly. I repeat, it is the nature belief, it is irrational, incoherent and unquestioning and that is why it is dangerous. There is no evidence supporting these religions, Christianity and Islam both claim to be the true religion and both can't be right, yet this doesn't make believers of both question anything about their belief. The suicide bombers experience religious raptures when preparing to be suicide missions.

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0018-2710(198505)24%3A4%3C308%3AFHTMCT%3E2.0.CO%3B2-7

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