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RE: mustard aversion v mustardphobia - 4/5/2005 10:50:52 AM   
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Mustardphobia is a bad thing, sissy, like all expressions of hate.


Yes, indeed it is, chris. So why do you choose to condone it rather than confront it ?

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RE: mustard aversion v mustardphobia - 4/5/2005 10:53:02 AM   
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Mustardphobia is a bad thing, sissy, like all expressions of hate.


Yes, indeed it is, chris. So why do you choose to condone it rather than confront it ?

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RE: dq fetish - 4/5/2005 11:03:06 AM   
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No, Akasha, do you ?

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RE: mustard aversion v mustardphobia - 4/5/2005 1:21:10 PM   
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Do you have a fetish for being a drama queen?


Hehe, I opened this thread because I saw DQ and was wondering if Dairy queen became a fetish.

Hehe

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RE: Asslicking is not always a good thing - 4/5/2005 1:21:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola

BTW, chris, why did You take sissy to task for what you considered to be a nit-pick


Because you mentioned my name.

Thank you for the thorough explanation of the tree style of threads. I certainly understand your consternation and apologize for calling it a nit pick.

I am not sure why you believe that most people at Collarme use the tree style. I am not saying you are wrong, but I don't know what evidence you are basing that statement on.

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quote:

Mustardphobia is a bad thing, sissy, like all expressions of hate.


Yes, indeed it is, chris. So why do you choose to condone it rather than confront it ?



Trust me, hun... if I see it, I will speak up.

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RE: Flat versus tree styles - 4/5/2005 3:53:03 PM   
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I am not sure why you believe that most people at Collarme use the tree style. I am not saying you are wrong, but I don't know what evidence you are basing that statement on.

No, chris, if anything, sissy believes entirely the opposite ... that the majority at CollarMe use "flat style" and that sissy is in the minority in using "tree style." But, the truth is, there is no way of knowing ... perhaps sissy should run a poll to get a flavor for what others do? sissy Made the assumption that you read in "flat mode" on the basis you wouldn't have made the nit-pick remark if you didn't, and that you would sure as heck also tell him if you didn't. sissy Suspects that most use the "flat style" because it is the default and it is the easiest way of seeing all the latest posts made on a thread since one last visited it. sissy Actually uses both styles, but he defaults to the "tree style" so that may get the nod as the one he uses most. sissy Usually has to use the "flat style" when reading this thread because so many of the sub-threads are somewhat arbitrary now anyway, and sissy still needs to know the order that posts were made.

SweetDommes comment that Her post was made against Yours instead of sissy's because she used "Fast Reply" may be the clue to what is behind what has happened on this thread. If the most frequent posters on this thread use that method of posting then that would account for the high incidence. Why "Fasr Reply" only allows one's message to post against the latest message sissy has no idea, if that is indeed the case. SweetDommes may simply be blowing smoke up sissy's ass ... oooh, that sounds like a new kink if ever sissy heard of one!

The bottom line is probably that most folk use the default "flat style" and never bother with "tree style" ... while some use "tree style" only ... and others, like sissy, use both. But if someone is in the first group and has never used anything other than the default they may have absolutely no idea of what sissy is talking about. Maybe sissy should make this a poll after all ...

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/5/2005 11:09:36 PM   
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G'evening all:

{shakes head & groans} CAN WE GET BACK TO & STAY ON TOPIC?!? Please, do us all a favor. If you have nothing productive, constructive, or supportive for THIS topic, keep your comments to yourself.

Thank you to the kind posters seeking my further thoughts on my previous post. Might as well grab a beverage, a snack & make sure you don't need to hit the potty.... This is going to be a LONG one.

"Teasing out" a male's inner masculinity is something I actually snitched from Angelika. I just liked the term so well. (#162) It must be done with grace & subtlety. Overt actions sometimes backfire & have disastrous consequences. I believe that masculinity embraces all that is best in a man. Chivalry, courtesy, charisma, dignity, charm, wit, etc. I further believe that all males have these traits possible within themselves. It is a matter of re-introducing a male to their inner gentleman.

Nothing is so lovely to eye of many of us dommes than the physical representation of this quality. I speak not of the pretty-boy viewed on the cover of GQ, but rather the earthy, well muscled (but not freakishly so), tall, handsome, simply droolable, hunk of male pulchritude that gets our panties all wet. Our individual tastes on this specimen will vary according to many factors, none of which I will pursue now. The more important aspects are what shines through from the soul, heart & mind.

Basically what I'm suggesting is more along the lines of investigation & training. If a male approaches in sincerity, seeking guidance from a domme, & she can sense a glimmer of promise lies within this person, but it currently is hidden, then it becomes an adventure to bring forth this quality. Just love a juicy challenge! The rewards are oh so much sweeter than can be imagined.

Over the years, society has unfortunately conditioned men to see the finer, more gracious aspects of gentlemanly behavior as weak, a threat to their ego & virility. Battering him down, filling his head with the ludicrous idea that emulating the virtues of by-gone eras will rob him of his strength when the exact opposite is true! I've always been amazed how many people in the bdsm lifestyle appreciate scifi/fantasy. Perhaps they wish to hearken back to days of old when men held doors or chairs for a woman, presented her with a token of affection for no reason other than admiration, defended a lady's honor, & held her upon a pedestal. To put a male back in touch with his masculinity, one must first make him recognize it; but gently, tenderly, with nearly invisible guidance & absolute support.

Along the way, many interesting side effects may occur. Invariably confidence will be built up, self image will be improved, defeating pride will be set aside, calm assurity replacing vanity. Over a significant course of time, hidden talents or skills may be revealed. Some males simply don't have enough faith in themselves prior to this re-discovery. They never know what they're truly capable of until the right woman nudges them along & opens their eyes. When it dawns on them, the effect is truly gratifying.

For example; when a male has dug deep inside & found he's worthy of love & returns it unstintingly, he blooms. Forgive the corny phrasing, but it's true nonetheless. He undertakes much more when he's so very alive. Perhaps, he never lifted a skillet before. Soon enough though, he's skimming cookbooks, magazines, what have you, to find something new & original to please you. He's found that you appreciate the effort, time & energy & so strives to impress you. Nothing more thrilling than watching a man putter around, being domestic simply because he's happy to serve. The sensual surrender under the whip or cane for your pleasure more than his own. Watching the light in his eyes as he bends his will to the fulfillment of yours.... PRICELESS.

If I've painted a pleasant picture to inspire someone & ease their way onto their true path? Then I humbly bow away & leave you with this last thought. Never give up. Never settle. The striving makes the journey worth it all....

{hops off her soapbox w/ a silly grin & waves g'night to all}


Stay safe all, play nice, & share your toys w/ others....





Bella

*edited for spelling because DAMN!!! it was late when I finally finished. ROFLMAO*

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/5/2005 11:23:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GddssBella

G'evening all:

{shakes head & groans} CAN WE GET BACK TO & STAY ON TOPIC?!? Please, do us all a favor. If you have nothing productive, constructive, or supportive for THIS topic, keep your comments to yourself.

Thank you to the kind posters seeking my further thoughts on my previous post. Might as well grab a beverage, a snack & make sure you don't need to hit the potty.... This is going to be a LONG one.

"Teasing out" a male's inner masculinity is something I actually snitched from Angelika. I just liked the term so well. (#162) It must be done with grace & subtlety. Overt actions sometimes backfire & have disastrous consequences. I believe that masuclinity embraces all that is best in a man. Chivalry, courtesy, charisma, dignity, charm, wit, etc. I further believe that all males have these traits possible within themselves. It is a matter of re-introducing a male to their inner gentleman.

Nothing is so lovely to eye of many of us dommes than the physical representation of this quality. I speak not of the pretty-boy viewed on the cover of GQ, but rather the earthy, well muscled (but not freakishly so), tall, handsome, simply droolable, hunk of male pultritude that gets our panties all wet. Our individual tastes on this specimen will vary according to many factors, none of which I will pursue now. The more important aspects are what shines through from the soul, heart & mind.

Basically what I'm suggesting is more along the lines of investigation & training. If a male approaches in sincerity, seeking guidance from a domme, & she can sense a glimmer of promise lies within this person, but it currently is hidden, then it becomes an adventure to bring forth this quality. Just love a juicy challenge! The rewards are oh so much sweeter than can be imagined.

Over the years, society has unfortunately conditioned men to see the finer, more gracious aspects of gentlemanly behavior as weak, a threat to their ego & virility. Battering him down, filling his head with the ludicrous idea that emulating the virtues of by-gone eras will rob him of his strength when the exact opposite is true! I've always been amazed how many people in the bdsm lifestyle appreciate scifi/fantasy. Perhaps they wish to hearken back to days of old when men held doors or chairs for a woman, presented her with a token of affection for no reason other than admiration, defended a lady's honor, & held her upon a pedestal. To put a male back in touch with his masculinty, one must first make him recognise it; but gently, tenderly, with nearly invisible guidance & absolute support.

Along the way, many interesting side effects may occur. Invariably confidence will be built up, self image will be improved, defeating pride will be set aside, calm assurity replacing vanity. Over a significant course of time, hidden talents or skills may be revealed. Some males simply don't have enough faith in themselves prior to this re-discovery. They never know what they're truly capable of until the right woman nudges them along & opens their eyes. When it dawns on them, the effect is truly gratifying.

For example; when a male has dug deep inside & found he's worthy of love & returns it unstintingly, he blooms. Forgive the corny phrasing, but it's true nonetheless. He undertakes much more when he's so very alive. Perhaps, he never lifted a skillet before. Soon enough though, he's skimming cookbooks, magazines, what have you, to find something new & original to please you. He's found that you appreciate the effort, time & energy & so strives to impress you. Nothing more thrilling than watching a man putter around, being domestic simply because he's happy to serve. The sensual surrender under the whip or cane for your pleasure more than his own. Watching the light in his eyes as he bends his will to the fulfillment of yours.... PRICELESS.

If I've painted a pleasant picture to inspire somone & ease their way onto their true path? Then I humbly bow away & leave you with this last thought. Never give up. Never settle. The striving makes the journey worth it all....

{hops off her soapbox w/ a silly grin & waves g'night to all}


Stay safe all, play nice, & share your toys w/ others....





Bella


Perhaps one way to bring out the masculinity in a man is to make him get involved in a competitive sport for recreation. Even a game of pick-up basketball -- the competitive nature, the physicalness of it, the sweat, the natural instincts that it brings out.

I absolutely have a fetish for hockey. 6 years ago you could not get me to go to a hockey game if you PAID ME. Then I started to pay attention -- the raw, physical nature of the sport just makes me wet - plain and simply. My husband plays hockey recreationally, and whenver I watch him compete I am so horny by the time he is finished, he doesn't stand a chance. The huge turn on about this is that his normal demeanor is level, relatively soft spoken, polite, not "overly macho" by any means. But when he is on the ice he is aggressive, competitive, physical, and unyielding.

Seeing all these physical, masculine traits come out in him is a huge turn on.

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RE: masculine subs - 4/6/2005 12:34:37 AM   
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Hi LadyAngelika

I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed reading this thread. I definately find the idea of a truly mascline sub quite erotic. Perhaps something to aspier to.

little spike

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/6/2005 12:49:06 AM   
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If that can be considered the definition of enforced masculinity GddssBella then I support it whole-heartedly. You have described something dear to My heart in words that I can follow. Thank You. I was not sure if that was what LadyAngelika was referring to in the opening posts but I hoped that it was. Nothing comes close to watching a strong masculine male baking a chocolate cake, setting the table, or decorating cookies because he wants to. The contrasts are just too delicious.

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/6/2005 12:50:20 AM   
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Nothing comes close to watching a strong masculine male baking a chocolate cake, setting the table, or decorating cookies because he wants to. The contrasts are just too delicious.

Gentle Lady




My personal favorite is watching one in a towel or pair of boxers carrying my plate to me

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/6/2005 12:53:45 AM   
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*eyes suddenly twinkling*....and a glass in the other hand

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/6/2005 1:34:10 AM   
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but of course

Our boy that ended up not working out used to do this - he'd be wearing only a pair of shorts, he'd bring my food/drink to me, then he'd sit on the floor next to me and wait for me to finish eating before he ate. It was just wonderful having him there, attending to me.

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RE: masculine subs - 4/6/2005 2:50:19 AM   
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Hi LadyAngelika

I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed reading this thread. I definately find the idea of a truly mascline sub quite erotic. Perhaps something to aspier to.

little spike


I'm glad spike.

And I'm also glad that this topic has gotten back on track. I'm hoping that it can stay this way.

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/6/2005 3:12:03 AM   
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If that can be considered the definition of enforced masculinity GddssBella then I support it whole-heartedly. You have described something dear to My heart in words that I can follow. Thank You. I was not sure if that was what LadyAngelika was referring to in the opening posts but I hoped that it was.


It was exactly that. And Bella understood my concept of "teasing out" a male's inner masculinity bang on. How we do it individually is our own thing. There are so many ways to do this and I'm loving reading about the ways you've all suggested so far.

SweetDommes and GentleLady, I can totally relate to the man in a towel or boxers being of service. Last time I went to visit my boy, he was running late and when I got there, he opened the front door in a towel. I looked at him up and down and gave him a "what’s this" look. He just gave me that cute as pie grin and said "Je suis à votre service Mademoiselle!". Needless to say he got pinned to the wall. In general, this boy is amazing that way, very masculine and virile, with a sweet tender side to him that always wants to please me.

AAkasha, I can totally relate to your hockey story. Being from Montreal, hockey is inescapable. To be honest, I used to hate it, thinking it was stupid sport. (That’s about the equivalent of being a satan worshiper in the bible belt). Today, I have this hockey player fetish. It's hilarious! My main boy played hockey all his life and I have to say it's hot to see him all suited up and playing. It's virile, it's aggressive, it's hot. To be honest, I have a *huge* thing for football (what most of you call soccer) players. And rugby players… something about a man that does contact sports!

Ok, so not all men are athletes. Being athletic is definitely not a masculine trait. Many women are athletic and still quite feminine. We have to remember that the masculinity of each man is expressed in his own individual way and that is what I like to discover. That individual way and tease it out. And the men I have I known have been very grateful with me helping them get back in touch with their manhood.

- LA

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/6/2005 4:59:57 AM   
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Mmmmmmmmm.... I can really relate to these last few threads.
A shame the rugby season is just about over here. lol

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/6/2005 12:15:21 PM   
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SweetDommes and GentleLady, I can totally relate to the man in a towel or boxers being of service. Last time I went to visit my boy, he was running late and when I got there, he opened the front door in a towel. I looked at him up and down and gave him a "what’s this" look. He just gave me that cute as pie grin and said "Je suis à votre service Mademoiselle!". Needless to say he got pinned to the wall. In general, this boy is amazing that way, very masculine and virile, with a sweet tender side to him that always wants to please me.

- LA



*drools* I would be in heaven.

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/6/2005 4:22:44 PM   
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A very curious subject, very thought provoking. I think much of it seems to substantiate my observations of the Dominant woman over the last 10 years. It seems that there are those who enjoy fem boys and there are those that enjoy confident, whole complete masculine men who are confident and exude masculinity or maleness. I think there are those that confuse that with Dominance and it is so much another thing. If my friends and family knew my lifestyle (and no I'm not that confident). But they would all guess I am Dominant. After all I'm 6.1" plus 225lbs. I hold an Godan (5th degree black belt) in Judo. I was once rated in the top 3 players in the country. I am fairly well read and educated (enough to know that I have so much more to learn). I work hard and am successful by most measures. I move through the world with a fair amount of confidence and presence. And yet.....I absolutely need at the core of my being to kneel before a Dominant woman and give her all that I am. To find ways to please her and anticipate her needs....My masculinity is completely seperate from my submission and just who I am. I find that there are Dommes who enjoy taking a powerful man and owning him (thank the universe for that!).
So just my thoughts..

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RE: forced masculinity - 4/6/2005 4:29:27 PM   
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PassionateNights,

I thank my lucky stars everyday that there are men like you in the world ;)

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RE: masculine subs - 4/6/2005 4:32:52 PM   
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I came across this essay recently and thought it was both well written and had good advice. I was wondering how others might view it.

Here is a snippet:
quote:

Women expect and need men to act like men. That doesn't mean to be domineering, obviously, especially not if you are after a dominant dame. What it means is don't be a delicate blossom, a wimpy little shrinking violet. Women do not get wet for wallflowers. We need to feel wanted, we want to know you desire us.

Want to know how to be attractive to women? Give women something they want. Women *love* nice guys! Women *need* nice guys, like _heroes_, and _healers_. So, pick one: hero or healer, and be that with all your heart as if your whole life depends upon it. Otherwise, pal, you ain't gettin' any, and even the angels won't weep for you.


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