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Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:03:40 AM   
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male sub messages his 'Mistress' She knows he wants to be humiliated, but she is tired, really cant be bothered to watch him shove a cucumber up his ass! She really isnt in the mood to think about new ideas for her sub..but she does it anyway, coz hes goin to pay her. She takes his money, thinks up a new idea to humiliate him (work work work *yawn*) She smiles to herself thinking she is in control *coughs* This 'sub' has just got exactly what he wants! he has paid money to his 'mistress' to get her to do as he needs! Who is in control?!
Now I am very willing to take anything I can..I am also very willing to humiliate etc...but ONLY when I want to be amused, ONLY when I feel like it.....in My opinion there are far too many online doms out there, with totally the wrong end of the stick ( or cucumber!)
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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:13:53 AM   
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yeah once money enters into the equation the lines are more easily blurred...not always, but more then likely often enough to make your assertion true.

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:20:59 AM   
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There is a difference in my mind between being a submissive and being a bottom, being a bottom means one like to be done things to, and yes usualy the bottom is in control, they dictate how things are to be, and somtimes they even pay for the Top`s services, witch there is nothing wrong whit after all, the bottom want somthing and pay somone to indeed render a service. A submissive or a slave on the other hand is more interested in submitting and serving, and would pepolebly not be interested in such an arangement.

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:26:25 AM   
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ah but if the bottom is in control, why are they labeled the bottom!

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:31:08 AM   
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ah but if the bottom is in control, why are they labeled the bottom!


so you know which part of the anatomy to stick things in? 

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:33:50 AM   
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hahahahhahaaa Now that could just be true!!!

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:36:01 AM   
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The term comes from gay circels where it dont nessesary mean the bottom is submissive, the bottom means the one being done unto and the top means the one doing. It has been a standard termology in the BDSM world for a wery long time.

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:41:38 AM   
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ah but if the bottom is in control, why are they labeled the bottom!


Because it's hard for a tied up person to be on top?

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:43:38 AM   
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nothing to do with cucumbers then?!

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:46:18 AM   
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Not at all, one could just wriggle like an earth worm and body slam the Dominant ;)

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:49:17 AM   
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Not at all, one could just wriggle like an earth worm and body slam the Dominant ;)


I do something like that to my dominant. Except I'm generally not tied up and I'm pouncing atop him while squealing "I LUFF YOU!" and then purring like a kitten. He says I'm silly. 

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:51:31 AM   
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Do he now, i would do somthing like that to my Master to be, if it was not for the fact that i am rather fat and he would probably not apriciate having me jump him like that, it could be rather heavy. ;)

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 3:58:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I do something like that to my dominant. Except I'm generally not tied up and I'm pouncing atop him while squealing "I LUFF YOU!" and then purring like a kitten. He says I'm silly. 


he may have a point! haha jk ;)

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 4:01:28 AM   
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Do he now, i would do somthing like that to my Master to be, if it was not for the fact that i am rather fat and he would probably not apriciate having me jump him like that, it could be rather heavy. ;)


Nah... I'm a big girl too. You just have to learn how to pounce properly!

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 4:02:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GoddessGreed

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I do something like that to my dominant. Except I'm generally not tied up and I'm pouncing atop him while squealing "I LUFF YOU!" and then purring like a kitten. He says I'm silly. 


he may have a point! haha jk ;)


It's ok. I'm his silly munchkin. He loves it about me. 

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 6:21:40 AM   
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i guess you are right, the jump jump here i come. :D

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 6:36:09 AM   
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I don't think the distinction you're making is based upon money, but rather something more fundamental to BDSM.  The distinction is one of Topping and bottoming (sensation play) vs. a power exchange relationship.
 
The situation (as you described it) is one of Topping and bottoming (it's not terribly pertinent that there is money involved), and Topping need not have an element of control (other than "control" over an implement rather than an individual) for both parties to be fulfilled.  As has been discussed in previous threads, there are even Dominants that maintain the control in their relationship, but occasionally choose to bottom (for the sensation, not to give up control).
 
Of course, money does add the element of compensation, and like most work, we often don't have the luxury of deciding when we want to work and when we don't.  The one providing the compensation has that control, and, miss too many days of work and they'll hire someone else.
 
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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 8:21:59 AM   
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Who is in control, the agent or the customer? 


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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 8:29:56 AM   
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Of course, money does add the element of compensation, and like most work, we often don't have the luxury of deciding when we want to work and when we don't.  The one providing the compensation has that control, and, miss too many days of work and they'll hire someone else.
 
John


exactly..So the Dom that takes money for making her 'slave' perform tasks on cam, is not in control at all....he is! Where as a financial Dom, who takes money for absolutely nothing in return, and does exactly as she pleases, is very much in control, in my opinion....therefore, are all these 'subs' that pay to be humiliated, really acting submissively, or are they just paying for a service, and getting there 'mistress' to do exactly as they please!

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RE: Online Doms, are they really in control? - 12/31/2006 8:32:13 AM   
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If you turn down the money and say no...then you are in control.

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