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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/2/2007 8:15:32 PM   
gooddogbenji


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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/2/2007 8:17:17 PM   
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I have yet to find a sub/slave online. I've only found mine real-time by interacting in the community. Granted, I've had a lot of near-misses and I've found several nice men to date....but....

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/2/2007 8:22:41 PM   
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oh that is where i get my yellow fettish from !

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/2/2007 9:07:24 PM   
undergroundsea


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressNoName
"like your profile very much" That was the entire email...and this sub's profile had nothing in it to read...NOTHING! So, when I respond back with one-liners like, "thank you, I like it, too." I get no response back. When I try to engage the person in deeper conversation, I hear nothing but silence... When I try pointing out to them that I have certain rules of engagment which they need to follow, again, nada...


If I may, let's imagine this conversation in an IM ;-)

Sub875643: like your profile very much!!!!!
MistressNoName: Thank you. I like it too.
Sub875643: Yes, me too. LOL!
MistressNoName: What do you like about it?
Sub875643: Oh.
Sub875643: I like the font!!!!
MistressNoName: The font? It's the default font that CM uses! Almost everyone has it.
Sub875643: Oh. brb. I think my phone is ringing.
Sub875643: I liked it so much I just had to read it again. I like that it shows that you are dominant.
Sub875643: I love dominant women!!!!
MistressNoName: Now you did just read it again, right?
Sub875643: Yes. And I liked it very much!!!!
MistressNoName: I see. So what are your general interests?
Sub875643: I love to submit!!!!
MistressNoName: No, I mean, how do you spend your free time?
Sub875643: Oh. I come to CollarMe.
MistressNoName: And?
Sub875643: I look at the profiles.
MistressNoName: No, I mean what do you do other than come to CollarMe?
Sub875643: Oh, and I like to watch TV.
MistressNoName: Ah. What shows do you like?
Sub875643: Oh nothing in particular. I just keep changing the channels until it's time to go to bed. LOL!
MistressNoName: I see.
Sub875643: You said in your profile to ask you about your interests.
MistressNoName: Yes. Yes. You may ask.
Sub875643: Do you like to use strap-on?
MistressNoName: Sigh. brb. I think my phone is ringing.
******MistressNoName has logged off*****

I think your profile is well written. I am not sure what more you can do aside from trying to engage them in conversation for the shy ones. Near the beginning of the profile, including the text in your latest journal entry or emphasizing the importance of journal entries might help--that and tellin' 'em there'll be a quiz ;-)

;-)

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/2/2007 9:23:52 PM   
MsCece2u


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Rofl sea I always look forward to yours and benji's responses.  They normally manage to find the humor in any situation and manage to lighten the mood.

Now on to the OP

MNN I assure you that you are not suffering nothing more than most of us have suffered at one point or another.  Best advice is to delete the ones that aren't to your liking and block them.  Most of the time if they are one liners they have no clue anyway.  I have been blessed to find two lovely subs on this sight and one happens to be relatively close.  The thing that caught my attention with both boys was the fact that they knew how to write an email and they both knew was spell checker was and its use.  Don't give up your search.  It took me approximately 4 years to find these boys and they were well worth the wait.

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 7:09:47 AM   
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I can't personally say that I relate to this search for a partner online and the frustrations of not finding someone.

I've never only searched online -- franky I've never found someone who I met only online.

I've also never really focused on the search for a partner. I've found them when I was being myself and being part of the local community. I might put up an ad but I never actively pursued, I simply responded to those I met either in meatlife or online.

I imagine it can be very frustrating.

Perhaps it is time to reevaluate your approach and your priorities, to look at how you involved in BDSM and what you are willing to do to help you become happier with just being yourself in them. I think once you are happier with just yourself and with your interests in BDSM and get involved at some level, that happiest and that activity will start to show and people will respond to you. Best of all, even if they don't, you won't care because you'll be too happy just being your wonderful kinky self and making new friends and learning new things.

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 11:25:54 AM   
TigressOfDs


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressNoName

To My "Fellow" Mistresses/Dommes/Dominas/Tops:

wow, am I ever tired of one-line emails, subs
Can anyone relate to this, or am I wasting my energy with this? I would sure appreciate some insight and support. Thanks.

MNN



I can relate, and get frustrated as well.  However the ones that REALLY irritate me are the one that send those One line emails, then delete the profile so you can't block them. 

Ms.Kat

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 2:45:33 PM   
cloudboy


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I find it easier to get into relationships by asking "what can I do for the other person" as opposed to "what can they do for me."

Where relationships are concerned, the passive mode takes you out of the driver's seat. This might seem counter intuitive or even wrong to FEMDOMs, who often feel subs should come to them and cater to them, but in my opinion that might be a big mistake.

On balance, I have had nothing but good experiences with the people I've met on the internet. Sure, thing's have not been perfect, but there's just so to look forward to out there in other people. All you have to do is find and experience it.

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 2:57:27 PM   
MistressDolly


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressNoName

To My "Fellow" Mistresses/Dommes/Dominas/Tops:

Although I'm quite sure this has been discussed ad nauseum all around these message boards, I just have to bring it up again. It's the new year, and I am hoping to gain new insight. Here goes:

I'm just really frustrated beyond belief with this search for the right sub/slave. I know that perhaps my frustration may be in and of itself self-defeating, but, wow, am I ever tired of one-line emails, subs who only want to meet via web-cam or yahoo messenger, argumentative and anxiety-ridden subs, you name `em, they've contacted me.

I'm at a loss. I do not want to make one more journal entry or tweak my profile anymore. I think I've been pretty honest and straightforward and clear in my profile without being exhaustively wordy...My main gripe, is that despite all that, the subs contacting me, not all, but most, still seem not to take the time to read my profile carefully, are often much-more self-centered than I care to deal with and don't seem to have an iota of understanding about D/s apart from "play."

Can anyone relate to this, or am I wasting my energy with this? I would sure appreciate some insight and support. Thanks.

MNN

P.S. Before anyone notes that I have been a member only since October 2006, let me correct you. I have actually been a member since Sept 2005. I changed my profile under a new name in October b/c my previous profile no longer suited my needs. It was a sub profile that evolved into a switch profile and I wanted a new profile to reflect my current status.


You're going to find all types of people in cyber.  And while it can get discouraging, don't give up:  you will eventually find a gem or two.  I did.  Good luck. :)

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 3:07:56 PM   
MistressDolly


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressNoName

To My "Fellow" Mistresses/Dommes/Dominas/Tops:

Although I'm quite sure this has been discussed ad nauseum all around these message boards, I just have to bring it up again. It's the new year, and I am hoping to gain new insight. Here goes:

I'm just really frustrated beyond belief with this search for the right sub/slave. I know that perhaps my frustration may be in and of itself self-defeating, but, wow, am I ever tired of one-line emails, subs who only want to meet via web-cam or yahoo messenger, argumentative and anxiety-ridden subs, you name `em, they've contacted me.

I'm at a loss. I do not want to make one more journal entry or tweak my profile anymore. I think I've been pretty honest and straightforward and clear in my profile without being exhaustively wordy...My main gripe, is that despite all that, the subs contacting me, not all, but most, still seem not to take the time to read my profile carefully, are often much-more self-centered than I care to deal with and don't seem to have an iota of understanding about D/s apart from "play."

Can anyone relate to this, or am I wasting my energy with this? I would sure appreciate some insight and support. Thanks.

MNN

P.S. Before anyone notes that I have been a member only since October 2006, let me correct you. I have actually been a member since Sept 2005. I changed my profile under a new name in October b/c my previous profile no longer suited my needs. It was a sub profile that evolved into a switch profile and I wanted a new profile to reflect my current status.


If you haven't already, post on sites not otherwise known as "bdsm" sites, e.g. myspace; you may inspire new ideas in potential submissives.  I am sure there are plenty of men with untouched/unexplored submissive tendencies.

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 3:23:14 PM   
LaTigresse


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I honestly don't want to be rude or snarky but so far today I am 2 for 2.

I just wanted to mention what one or two others already have. Looking online for a relationship isn't always the most productive. I would suggest getting involved in your local BDSM related events/gatherings, meet some people, get to know more than their favourite font and their screen name. Kinda the way most people tend to meet their sig. others.


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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 3:31:41 PM   
QuietlySeeking


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I've met more kinksters/potential kinksters on vanilla websites than through all of the BDSM websites combined. (even eHarmony, if you can believe that!)  The pool is a great deal deeper and doesn't need nearly as much chlorine!


I find that getting to know someone completely outside of a "kinky" environment makes it much easier to develop the relationship that I require, so vanilla sites tend to work better for me.

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 3:51:44 PM   
sissikerin


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I'm going to add from a submissives view, that it is hard to be able to reply to a profile because the odds are stacked against us in the first place.
a) there are more male subs out there than any other "type"
b) the majority of them are just as described, wankers, curious georges, kinky sex seekers, married or otherwise unavailable pain in the asses.
c) this has made the great number of female dominants out there very jaded as to what they expect. They EXPECT a responder to be one of the above. On the chance that the sub is honestly a lifestyle sub and is honest about their status, their response is still taken with skepticism.
d) The FEW lifetyle subs that are out here are also overwhelmed with the huge number of "Mistresses" that are seeking tributes. Why tributes?? well because they can't come right out and say they want to be paid.
e) After writting email after email of any length and detail and hearing nothing at all back in response it becomes weary from our point of view as well to write lengthy emails that don't get a response.
f) And sometimes (i have been burned this way before) the person they actually do contact is not even a female Mistress. Thus sometimes the desire to meet on web cam. Just because you meet on web cam doesn't mean that anything is going to happen but at least it gives some validation that the person you are speaking with is really who they say they are (and that works both ways)

Ok I'm done my alphabet for now.  Just wanted to give my 2 cents.

kerin

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 4:09:12 PM   
LadyHugs


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Dear MistressNoName, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eyes I see, when I look hard for something I can never find it.  But, when I am looking for something, another thing enters the picture to sustain me.  This I've experienced when looking for a misplaced item and though I am focused to find one certain one, many things I've looked for pop up and am pleased.
 
As far as looking for a human match--well, I don't chase after slaves or submissive's period.  Perhaps I am old fashion and believe men should pursue a lady and the lady takes her time.
 
As frustrating at it can be.  Believe me, being an odd ball in the lifestyle, as I am unique in many ways, I have so much against me to begin with.  But, it really is a test of faith.  If you make a 'faith' that there won't be a slave in your life/future--it will come true.  If you create your faith in a positive manner, it will come true.  After all, we do create our own heaven or hell--on Earth.
 
I am a believer, that each person has a place in destiny.  We (in general terms) are threads that creates the tapestry of this lifestyle and or the community.  Each of us touches another person in many ways and unexpectedly so.  And, I say this due to proof provided by the ladies and gentlemen who read the forums and message me in private how I've helped in some way. 
 
I am a believer, that not all of us are given our charts in our journey to find someone quickly.  Yet, those who touch us briefly fill our basket, with experience, knowledge, advice, skills, the gift of seeing in different ways, to problem solve and or to heal, teach, mentor and or be a good friend to those who can use one.  Then, when Providence decides it is now your time--it will be time.  No sooner.  No later.  Not of our timing but that of a higher power's time.
 
Patience is indeed a virtue.  It is one out of many virtues.  It is often the hardest.  However, while the journey progresses as your chart has mapped, one can still lead a productive life and within the community.
 
Ownership and or a relationship is a lot of work.  It may look simple from the external side of the window however, there is much that goes on behind closed doors and, added to it beyond vanilla is the M/s or D/s dynamic.  Growth takes place.  Sometimes that good relationship grows out of it's container and you'll be without again--as you keep growing out and upwards all your life.
 
The best advice I can offer when you're feeling extremely alone and lonely, even if in a crowded room filled with humanity--Love yourself first, service yourself first, master yourself first, create your happiness without someone before you invite another in.  As, once you invite someone into your happiness, you can't be selfish anymore.
Be kind and good to yourself.  When you are happy without, that is usually when others gravitate to that happiness that glows from within. 
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 4:40:19 PM   
belljar


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You know how I decided to fool-proof the "did you REALLY read my profile?" thought?? (other than the obvious when I state no men over 33 and i'm getting 45 and up)....I put in my profile, well, go read it, lol. you'll see. and ya know what? only ONE out of the ten i've gotten since that little change have acknowledged it.
ONE.
sad sad sad.
How can one be submissive if you can't even follow simple instructions.



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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 5:43:11 PM   
pixelslave


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressNoName
I'm just really frustrated beyond belief with this search for the right sub/slave. I know that perhaps my frustration may be in and of itself self-defeating, but, wow, am I ever tired of one-line emails, subs who only want to meet via web-cam or yahoo messenger, argumentative and anxiety-ridden subs, you name `em, they've contacted me.
I'm at a loss. I do not want to make one more journal entry or tweak my profile anymore. I think I've been pretty honest and straightforward and clear in my profile without being exhaustively wordy...My main gripe, is that despite all that, the subs contacting me, not all, but most, still seem not to take the time to read my profile carefully, are often much-more self-centered than I care to deal with and don't seem to have an iota of understanding about D/s apart from "play."


I'm going to try and put this as delicately as I know how.  I've read your profile and having done so can tell you it is not one that I personally would be attracted to, compatibility and details aside.  The primary thing that immediately strikes me when reading your profile is all of the negative energy it sends to the reader about what you do not want and what you dislike.  This reads like an angry and frustated woman that few worthy subs would like to be involved with or would want to serve.
 
If you want to attract the right fish, I suggest you use the right bait.   Remove all the negative statements about how angry you are at all of the men who have ignored your directions.  The men that you seek will naturally read all of your profile and still want to know more.   You won't have to tell them to read about you as they'll want to do that and will still ask you to tell them much more once you reply!  Ignore all the ones that don't listen to you.  I strongly suggest you act like a duck and just let it roll off your back. 
 
My suggestion to you is that you do what ever you can to make your profile as positive as you can, focusing on what it is that you want, and omitting all the negative stuff about what you don't want.  Do what you can to turn those criteria and complaints into positives.  In that way, you won't turn off the men you'd probably like to attract.  I personally always choose to decide against approaching women with profiles written similar to yours.  I just don't get turned on by a woman with a negative attitude.  If a profile comes across as being angry at all men, while it might otherwise be intriquing, I still lose any interest I might have otherwise had as I have no desire to suffer as the whipping post (assuming I even receive a polite response) for what other men might have done and for which I personally am innocent!

My apologies if I have offended you, but as you seemed to be genuinely looking for support and advice on how to find what you are seeking, this is the most honest and helpful advice I know how to give you that might be of use. 
 
I hope the other ladies who read this post will also take heed to what I have written.  The men who most likely have angered you do not read the angry journal entries or other disparaging and negative comments written in profiles; ignoring them instead.  They are only viewed by the submissives who are genuinely seeking a Dominant Woman to serve.  That having been said, is that the kind of message you really want to send to us about yourself?  Is that what you think will attract us to you?  Even more, will that kind of attitude, inspire us to write you at all, or if we do, will we put the energy into writing the kind of introductory message that you'd really like to have, knowing it's likely to be binned by an angry woman fed up with men?  If you still believe as much, I strongly suggest that you pause and think about the man (or woman) you'd like to attract and what kind of "bait" you think would be most appropriate to get them interested in you!  
 
 - pixel
 
P.S.  I've often heard it said: "You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar."  Which are you putting out?

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 7:56:53 PM   
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I don't see anything wrong with MNN profile.  She is upfront and honest about what she
seeks.  She has a right as the Dominant partner.  Actually, I thought her profile was sincere
and to the point.  Good luck MNN.


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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 8:12:24 PM   
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I had many of the same problems simply posting on vanilla sites (before I was "in the lifestyle" - oh, so vast an amount of time since, about 14 months!).  I got "flirts", one liners, folks who hadn't read a thing, couldn't talk, etc.  Curiously enough, I met my Dom via a vanilla site.

I have no more suggestions than the other posters so far.  Time's probably the cure.

ttfn
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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 8:17:27 PM   
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Dear MistressNoName, pixelslave, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I would sincerely recommend all heed pixelslave's words of wisdom.
 
The question one needs to ask of one's self; is how much fun am I to live with.  An occassional 'sour puss' is fine but, one who has been so sour for so long that they have become dried prunes--well, its too taxing for anybody, even with a most healthy supply of positive energy and a loving, positive and compassionate nature.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Need to Vent-Need Support - 1/3/2007 8:59:24 PM   
DominaSmartass


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Mistress NoName,

I would HIGHLY suggest attending some of the many NYC area groups and events that you are lucky enough to live near. An organization that has been especially helpful for me when it comes to meeting like minded people (M/s, TPE, etc.) is MAsT - Masters And slaves Together. They meet once a month at the Greenwich Village LGBT center. TES, Dom Sub Friends, and a few others exist in Jersey, Long Island, Westchester, etc. I know the search is hard but take it from someone who knows, it will be worth the wait and there are good boys out there.

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