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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 9:43:43 AM

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My Master is not a God and not held above my God. He is, however, held (in my eyes) above all other living beings on this earth. I believe I was put in my Master's hands for my care while on this earth. He does not require me to place him before my God. This was something we talked about prior to my becoming his slave.

I agree for a Christian person the hirarchy should be clear.
My gist of the bible on this is God is the Godhead, Then comes The Master of The House, Then his Wife. (OK put Master/slave in instead of wife for this discussion)
That's why wives are supposed to obey their husbands.
The wife's sins go through her spouse and both of them are responsible for her sins in God's eyes.

No, I do not consider any human being a God, but there indeed are Lords, and Masters here in human form.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 9:43:59 AM

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My Master means the world to me. Is it something W/we agreed upon, No. It is just how I feel. Is He a God, ofcourse not, but He is my world.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 10:02:55 AM

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I'm really glad to see this thread has received such a great response so far.

I thought the OP was a pretty simple straight forward kind of question; thanks to those of you who were able to elaborate on your answers to the question to make this so much more interesting.

I look forward to reading even more of your responses.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 10:10:59 AM

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Do I hold him above my God? No. He doesn't want that and I am under orders to not give the word "he" a capital letter in reference to my dominant (unless it's at the start of a sentence of course). He feel it's trying to give him divine airs and as he says "I don't need to be a god to exert my authority over you".

Do I hold him above my family and friends? Yes and no. I think the people in any relationship will give their partner preferable treatment and in the every day life, he definately comes first. But if my family needs me I will go to them and if my friends need me I will go to them. If he needed at the same time as they did, then I would try to make everyone happy. But if my father is sick and my dominant just wanted a sandwhich, I would have to go with my father. That, to me, becomes very situational.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 10:24:34 AM

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I do believe in a creator force. I have some alternative beliefs going on though. I think that we are like Gods, it says that we were created in the image of God, a part of God in the Bible itself. Now I am not a Christian, like I said, I am still searching for spiritual understanding...

...But what it comes down to is this, I believe I am god-like and a creative force within the universe, so is my Daddy, we are both divine in my eyes, there are times when I have conceived of playing with what I call the sacred during our power exchange dynamic. I am not lesser than he, I am not more than he, I am from the same source as he... and he would probably be annoyed if I thought otherwise.

We have a ying and yang type of thing developing between us, we define each other as far as our dynamic is concerned. I am not a slave though, nor would I be interested in the label. I would not put him before me, or after me, or even define the place where he resides in my life. I do what he tells me, even if it is at times unpleasant or I do not want to do it because I am beginning to cherish that aspect of "us".

Perhaps I should not have answered this because I do not believe in a creator that is separated from myself, out there judging if I made him a priority and that expects some sort of worship from myself. I do not believe in a god that would be offended if I chose to worship a mere man. We may play with sacred sex in the future, but I cannot conceive of it taking the form in which my spirit was of "less" intrinsic power than his own... because it seems like a falsity to me. I do not judge what others do in their own relationship though, it may not seem the same way to them and I am no one to judge.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 11:37:43 AM

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I don't currently have a Master, but if I did, he would be fourth on my list. God comes first. My son always comes second, and my education (college) third.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 12:13:32 PM

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I spend less time thinking about spirit, nature, other people and myself combined than I think about Master.

I think, because I believe in Spirit and the Higher Power of Spirit .. and I think because Himself could, if he wished, crush that spirit, that, yes, I do place Master in the position of power that is above spirit. He is just a man but he can effect my inner being, twist it and turn it, bend it to his will and beyond that.. make me appreciate and cherish him for doing so even when it hurts.

Interesting question - made me think. :)

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 1:25:53 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

I spend less time thinking about spirit, nature, other people and myself combined than I think about Master.

I think, because I believe in Spirit and the Higher Power of Spirit .. and I think because Himself could, if he wished, crush that spirit, that, yes, I do place Master in the position of power that is above spirit. He is just a man but he can effect my inner being, twist it and turn it, bend it to his will and beyond that.. make me appreciate and cherish him for doing so even when it hurts.

Interesting question - made me think. :)

Celeste

Well Celeste that was an interesting answer and one that I'm sure made people think...
I mean, someone really needs to be pretty deeply involved in a relationship to be able to share those very candid feelings.
Thanks for sharing

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 1:46:48 PM

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My list of priorities in life are thus:

1. God (Whatever you conceive him/her/it to be)
2. Partner
3. Children
4. Community.

The thing that I realised at some point was:

I didn't have to worry about my relationship with God, it permeated everything I did, there is no power on this earth that could threaten or displace that. I could relax....

I think with a partner we get the opportunity to realise the amazing potential of having a "relationship" that although involving "two people"...the relationship itself is "one" and so by surrendering to it....we actually get to have a relationship with "God" through each other and the effect of that is that the relationship itself expresses the qualities that come from Oneness..which is God hey? So all I had to worry about in regards to relationship was being with a person I could "surrender to".

So in that light, Surrendering to Master, making him top priority, my Lord and Master..I'm not holding him above God...I'm in fact seeing God in him....the relationship itself..expresses "God" right here on earth. There is no separation. There is no conflict.

I think personally there is "God" and there are multitudes of demigods. We make so many things our "God" if we are not careful...we can worship so many things and let have so many things have control over us in this modern world..even down to the fact of having lack of self-control we are making our emotions and erroneous thoughts our gods. When we seek careers as a sense of self fulfillment we are making our "goal orientated desires" our god.. so many demigods these days...anything we percieve as separate to ourselves is nothing more than a demigod.

I think the only God that is lasting is the One that can be seen working itself through everything, behind everything....and its in that light, I can surrender to my partner with no fear that I will be worshipping anything other than God.

And now back to our regularly scheduled episode of days of our lives....

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 2:15:56 PM

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Since people are talking about priorities now; and hopefully I'm not hijacking my own thread here
I’ll say this: the friend I mentioned in the OP told me her Master and her priorities are as follows;
1. God
2. their children,
3. than each other
As a single man I have to say I concur with that

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 2:20:02 PM

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Sorry, I can't and won't list my priorities like that. When it comes down to the brass tacks, they are all priority to me, and all mesh together.

I want, and have, it ALL.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 2:30:11 PM

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I can't imagine holding my Master above God...for me, that's waaaaaaaaaay over the top. In my mind, Doms/Masters are people...ordinary people. I may defer to Him above all others, I may hold Him in higher esteem than others, but when it comes down to it, He puts His pants on one leg at a time...just like I do.

Interesting, tho. I'm going to ask Him what He thinks.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 2:49:55 PM

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I use the Northwest Semitic title Baal since it means lord, master, husband, god and demon. I am of Jewish lineage and this term reflects how I perceive my owner in regards to our relationship. I place him above anyone and anything in my life including family, work and friends. We will not have children because he is a jealous god and would not want anyone taking priority over himself.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 4:15:22 PM

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    I am agnostic, so I really have a difficult time with the whole god thing.  For me, it's kind of like the Santa Claus thing, stories have been written about him, we all know that some man dressed in red is not climbing down our chimney every December 24th.   However, for some Santa really does exsist.   Santa is the Marine Corp collecting toys for tots and all the people who donate to those collection boxes.   Santa is the person who grabs a name off the wish tree at Walmart, or the person who donates to the food pantry, serves meals to the homeless....
    With that said, I think god sort of exsists in the actions of others similar to the way Santa Claus is made a reality through the kindness of others.   For me, my Dom is a god of sorts and I think I would feel that way whether he was my Dom, a vanilla partner or simply my friend.   Through our relationship, he's helped me over some hurdles, I am not sure I would have been able to get over without him in my life.
   Do I put him above all other's in my life?   No.   For me that's not practical nor is it expected.   It all kind of depends on the situation and who needs me most and sometimes, it's me that must come first.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 4:33:58 PM

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Jali you have one hell of a way with words, sweet post.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 5:12:10 PM

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I've got to go with LA here. We are all connected - all life forces, all energies. There is not one without the rest. On a separate note, with regard to the relationship my Sir and I have, we both agree that our wee ones come first. Everything else is secondary.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 8:13:55 PM

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Priority hierarchy in life shifts constantly. It depends on who has the highest need at the time.

But I will say this. For those in my life that will always be at the top of my priority list barring an emergency my partner or Dominant would second, only surpassed by my mini me, for she is at the age where her needs are of a majority. But one thing everyone needs to remember, especially subs & slaves is the need to make sure you are in the top 3 in your priority list. For if you do not put yourself in a position of self respect, no one will respect you.

I believe small children should come first, and your partner should come before the rest of your family. As your children age they need less of your time and constant attention, therefore allowing you to devote more of that attention on your partner and yourself. You find people or rather mothers that will devote all their energies and time on thier children and forget to cater to their relationship with their partner. What they find is the teenagers want their friends around them not their parents, and now the mother no longer have a relationship with their partner either for they have ignored them and their needs for the las 13+ years.

Everyone in your life needs to be a priority at one time or another. It's finding the working balance to maintain a happy and healthy relationship that takes work, but it's definately doable.

I'd say that no human is above God, but remember God put us here to make a life with other people, not devote ourselves solely to worshipping Him. How better to be a success in His eyes then to be happy, healthy and successful with in our lives. And I don't mean in a monetary way.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/3/2007 8:32:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: RedSavageSlave

1 Timothy 6:1-2 reads:

All who are under the yoke as slaves are to regard their own masters as worthy of all honor so that the name of God and our doctrine will not be spoken against. Those who have believers as their masters must not be disrespectful to them because they are brethren, but must serve them all the more, because those who partake of the benefit are believers and beloved. Teach and preach these principles.

Ephesians 6: 5-9:

Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free. And masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him.

Titus 2: 9-10:

Urge bondslaves to be subject to their own masters in everything, to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith so that they will adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in every respect.

Do those help?

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I found this a lovely post. Thank you. I love scripture.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/4/2007 12:22:38 AM

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Everyone in your life needs to be a priority at one time or another. It's finding the working balance to maintain a happy and healthy relationship that takes work, but it's definately doable.

I'd say that no human is above God, but remember God put us here to make a life with other people, not devote ourselves solely to worshipping Him. How better to be a success in His eyes then to be happy, healthy and successful with in our lives. And I don't mean in a monetary way.

Great post, akisha. ~smiling~

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/4/2007 2:50:21 AM

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greetings
i understand what you mean. but i do not put anyone over god then i would if i were a submissive he would go over all others . but he must be a dman good master

warm wishes

mons

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