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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/4/2007 4:25:51 AM

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But one thing everyone needs to remember, especially subs & slaves is the need to make sure you are in the top 3 in your priority list. For if you do not put yourself in a position of self respect, no one will respect you.

I second this and wanted to boldly put that I come first for without me, I would be unable to anyone above me, but saying that I come first would not be quite correct either. It all depends on the situation.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/4/2007 11:02:53 AM

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Probably a little off topic...but was rereading this thread and I came up with a question for those people who held their children as top priority over their partners....actually..I'm gonna start a thread about this as my question might be too off-topic and hijack the thread.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/4/2007 11:08:25 AM

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But one thing everyone needs to remember, especially subs & slaves is the need to make sure you are in the top 3 in your priority list. For if you do not put yourself in a position of self respect, no one will respect you.

I second this and wanted to boldly put that I come first for without me, I would be unable to anyone above me, but saying that I come first would not be quite correct either. It all depends on the situation.

I respect myself and my rights to my persuit of happiness but feel I would indeed not be in my top three.
It would be God, Children, My Master, then me as far as my priority chain would flow most of the time.
It's rare I would fill one of my needs before my kids, his kids (if he has any), or His.
Even if it was as serious as someone had to die this would still put me behind my kids, his kids or Him.
I don't think this makes me respect myself any less than I should at all it's just where I feel I belong in the general order of my life as a sub.
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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/4/2007 2:09:01 PM

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My friend told me about her Master and her but I’m interested in knowing what other Masters and slaves have to say about this. If you in fact do believe in God; as a slave do you hold your Master above all others? Or as a Master, do you insist that your slave consider you to be above all others? In this world and beyond?

I do believe in God, but I've never really thought much about whether I hold my owner above God, I would guess that I don't really since my owner is human and god is well.... god. I come from a very close immediate family and I don't think I'd ever hold someone above my family (I would see that as disloyal), but I would say that my owner is at the same level of a priority as my family.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/4/2007 3:29:57 PM

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Dear RSS...

I found this a lovely post. Thank you. I love scripture.

You are most welcome... I too enjoy these passages as they do help me to understand that my enjoyment of a M/s lifestyle is not "against" the teachings of my faith.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/4/2007 5:03:15 PM

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In regards to putting onself first, here's an example, if I were ill would I be expected to get out of bed and serve Master, of course not. Again in regards to all of this it totally depends on the circumstances, if He wants to watch SciFi channel and I want to watch something else; I'll suffer through Sci-Fi channel. While pursuing a college degree, I've had to miss school functions with my children, my education benefits everyone and it's give and take. Putting anyone above all others in a manner that is excessive, I would think would be very unhealthy. For example, at times relationships can be strained because of a demanding child. There must be a healthy balance in the priority of who comes first. If one puts their own needs in the lowest priority, I think that eventually that person is going to wind up stressed and completely worn out.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/5/2007 4:32:16 AM

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My kids needs come before his wants, his kids needs come before my wants. We made it clear early on that our devotion to our offspring was not negotiable.

I don't think of him as all knowing, all powerful. He doesn't want to be put up on a pedestal from which he will fall off. I trust him more than anyone else I know. I know he will consider the effects of his decisions on my well being. But I don't worship him and expect him to never make a mistake as that would be setting him up to fail.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/5/2007 6:17:16 AM

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In one way yes; He would be the person I love, respect, and the only person I would defer to in something without any other reason... And then no, because I recognise he is only human, and won't always be right, but then human is what I want, as its our different opinions, feelings, qualities and faults which make us who we are.

Then again, this is a very useless answer as I'm not a Christian. lol

(Hypothetically)Everyone has to answer to "existance" or nature, (God if you're Christian.) and the world itself will always be more powerful than any Dom. I could choose to obey my Dom before the world... at times perfectly feasible, at other times, it might result in a sticky end. Subs can choose to hold their Doms above all else, though if nature thinks otherwise, I'd give no prizes for guessing the outcome... I think its possible though, if part of a Dom's responsibility is to bear this in mind.

The best I could do there is "nature/existance might be the more powerful of the two, but I choose to give myself to this man."

Personally, I would only go as far as putting my devotion to him above my devotion to others. I'm not about to put anyone up on a pedestal, it's expecting superhuman standards from someone you love for the (human) person they are.

I can't help with the morality of the situation though, not being religious, that one is lost on me!

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/5/2007 6:22:59 AM

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Interesting that a lot of people found they held their children above all else. Again I can't comment from experience as I don't have or want any, but I can see how this might make sense; children are a parent's responsibility, Doms are able to look after themselves!

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/5/2007 4:50:33 PM

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i used to put my Master above all else, even God.

then one day i had a dream..... telling me if i put Master and this BDSM lifestyle before all else i would lose my child...

So i knocked Master down a peg, yet i was still flying high in the clouds

and then i came slamming back into the ground.

Now the answer is no.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/5/2007 8:30:53 PM

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The quick answer -- Once upon a time....absolutely, completely and unconditionally.

The long answer: i really don't have the stamina to into it tonight..but i'm not sure it will ever happen again.

...and on that cheery note (NOT.) i'm gonna go to bed.

sleep well and spicy dreams y'all

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/5/2007 8:38:39 PM

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If you in fact do believe in God; as a slave do you hold your Master above all others? Or as a Master, do you insist that your slave consider you to be above all others? In this world and beyond?

As a Christian I believe what the Bible says about God. One thing the Bible says is that God is a jealous god. If I were to put someone between me and God, or place God in second place in my life, then I think the Lord would do what was necessary to remove that other person. I don't see myself ever doing something that would harm my Dom/Master/Owner, if I had one, so I can't see myself putting them in that position.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/7/2007 6:30:04 AM

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My Master and I have an agreement that there are three areas in my life that I retain control over. My faith, my child, and my career. I do not put anything or anyone above my God. My Master is a wonderful man who has a very deep faith in God as well and is secure in himself to admit his fallacy in many areas. As far as people go, my Master is number one and always will be.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/7/2007 6:36:04 AM

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If you in fact do believe in God; as a slave do you hold your Master above all others?

If I did not hold God above my Dom, my Dom would be disappointed in me.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/7/2007 8:49:21 AM

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I am a christian, I have a firm belief in God, I hold Him on high, I also believe that God made my Husband, and when looking into the eyes of the one I am with, I am able to see God. I am able to see God in the one I am with, I am able to hold him on high because he is made of my God. When I look at my husband I see holy things, acient and true things, deep powerful spiritual things, all gifts from God.When I worship my husband or hold him on high, I believe that I too am holding God on high, that the two are hand in hand for me, not seperates but a oneness so that if I am praisng my husband, I too am praising God and his works.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/7/2007 8:50:55 AM

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Haven't seen you for awhile dancer...welcome back!

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/7/2007 9:00:02 AM

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Haven't seen you for awhile dancer...welcome back!

Thank you..I was off getting married...yaay me! It's good to be back.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/7/2007 9:01:51 AM

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I thought I remembered something about you getting married. Congrats!

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/9/2007 2:13:38 PM

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In a word: NO.

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RE: Do you hold your Master above all others? - 1/9/2007 4:32:59 PM

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Greetings

yes, i do place the owner above all else; including myself.

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