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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 5:15:12 AM

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ACTUALLY reading the Model Indictment and addressing the facts in evidence?

You're giving them WAY too much credit, given what we've seen of their...

Let's just say, it's sad that to, not saying anyone here - specifically mind you, but some neocon party whore cheerleaders are more interested in supporting their team, that The Laws of The United States.

It's sad. Like the Commies, giving allegience to their Party first, rather than their State.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 5:18:17 AM

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Well... I'm not the one ready to impeach the President because some woman wrote a book that says he should be.

The word is INDICT. It's a pretty basic part of our legal system, and unrelated to impeachment in any way.

If you can't keep that straight, do you really belong in the discussion?

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 7:07:10 AM

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The internet's a wonderful place. ( HOW well did you actually READ the Google Results??? )

Go ask her for a copy of her CV, we're bored with your pointless distractions. Since you didn't even read the FIRST 2 LINES of the model indictment post, why should we bother listening to you?

[Mod Note: email address removed]

It should be noted that what was removed, Elizabeth De La Vega's publicly available email address, is public, published, and easily obtainable by Google.

Therefore, any questions FOR Ms. De La Vega, should be directed to her. You'll have to do your own google for her email, though.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 7:40:52 AM

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What's sad is, just because the pendulum has swung the other way 51% - 49% makes people think it's okay to call half of all Americans "neocons" "nazis" or hurl any other pathetic insults that they can think of.

Really sad.

I think that after 9/11 everyone in power has done the best they can to try to make the world a better place, Democrats and Republicans alike. Sometimes we're going to disagree, but there is no need to sink this low.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 7:49:35 AM

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What's sad is, just because the pendulum has swung the other way 51% - 49% makes people think it's okay to call half of all Americans "neocons" "nazis" or hurl any other pathetic insults that they can think of.

Really sad.

I think that after 9/11 everyone in power has done the best they can to try to make the world a better place, Democrats and Republicans alike. Sometimes we're going to disagree, but there is no need to sink this low.

I disagree with you, BigDogs.

It has been sinking low for a long time.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12055360/cover_story_time_to_go_inside_the_worst_congress_ever

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/worst_president_in_history

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11717105/robert_f_kennedy_jr__will_the_next_election_be_hacked

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/10586714/was_the_2004_election_stolen

The thing I like the most about that magazine is that even when they publish things I disagree with (the editors do not modify stories submitted to them for publication) the articles do make me think.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 7:55:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: BigDogs

What's sad is, just because the pendulum has swung the other way 51% - 49% makes people think it's okay to call half of all Americans "neocons" "nazis" or hurl any other pathetic insults that they can think of.

Well, I'd agree, IF someone had tarred 1/2 the population incorrectly.

Would you not agree, that a neoconservative ( as opposed to a Traditional Conservative ) ( WELL, ANYONE ACTUALLY... DIM, REPUG, fucking Libertarians and Greens... ) who is more concerned with supporting The Party is a Party Whore?

Therefore I only insulted those who a) Are Neoconservatives and b) Put The Party before Their State.

Now, since the Neoconservatives are a marginalized fringe group, comparable to any group of fundamentalists, that's what? 14-18% of the Conservative Population? Way less than 1% of the General Population? IF THAT?

Us REAL CONSERVATIVES ( Anyone REMEMBER Fiscal Responsibility? ) hate the Neocon Party Whore. They fucked up the Nation, and now we have Secret Prisons, Torture, and total domestic surveillance.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 8:16:40 AM

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Now, since the Neoconservatives are a marginalized fringe group, comparable to any group of fundamentalists, that's what? 14-18% of the Conservative Population? Way less than 1% of the General Population? IF THAT?

More than 40% of the Republican Party are evangelical fundamentalists who would fall loosely under the heading of "neo-conservative." It is not a marginalized subset of the Republican Party, it is a cohesive group with the power and will to inflict their millenarian agenda on that party. The problem with this is that speeding the rest of us to armageddon simply brings their Savior home to rapture the chosen to the promised land.

Except for the 7 virgins for everybody and I dont see much difference between their goals and those of Islamic fundamentalists.

The source for that is American Theocracy by Kevin Phillips.

http://www.amazon.com/American-Theocracy-Politics-Religion-21stCentury/dp/067003486X/sr=8-1/qid=1168358902/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1697787-6452929?ie=UTF8&s=books

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 8:19:04 AM

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Lesse, who hates Freedom, Liberty, Womans liberation, Equality, Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll, and Booze?

The Taliban?

Yeah, them too..

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 9:12:53 AM

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Fast Reply:

*laughs* FB, I do believe you're beginning to froth at the mouth.

It's not helping you any.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 9:33:26 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Lesse, who hates Freedom, Liberty, Womans liberation, Equality, Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll, and Booze?

The Taliban?

Yeah, them too..

While I agree that some of those people are The American Taliban (think Pat Robertson), I do not think all evangelicals are. I believe that Jimmy Carter is also an evangelical Christian in the strictest sense. Not all Christians want to change laws to enforce their religion on us, although many would love a Christian State.

I see NeoCons as having a political agenda that includes war for resources, global economy set up for the banking interests and not people, using religion as a tool of control as opposed to being really religious, and demonizing those who do not agree with them. Like you I would not paint all conservatives with the same brush... here is the premeire roadwork for neoconservative agendas (which I am sure you are familiar with this site already!) http://www.newamericancentury.org/

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 9:40:08 AM

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I'm not asking you to buy anything. I'm merely pointing out that whether she does or not, I find nothing to support that she possesses the credentials that she claims. Before I would consider a fictional work as basis for legal indictment, I'd like to know that the author was qualified. At least have corroboration from a more reasonable source than her publicist.

I'm wondering why READING the model indictment yourself doesn't clearly outline the logic and facts in evidence behind her claim. It does stand on it's own.

Do you ask the Prosecutor at the Grand Jury questions about their background, or do you rely on the facts-in-evidence and the case as presented?

and of course, since in the 36 pages of Google results was her email address, did you ask HER for her CV? After all, if you're looking to verify her bona-fides, then you'd want to go to the source.

Before suggesting *I'm* losing my cool, perhaps you'd like to correct the flaws in your argument. Remember, as the entire model indictment post says, CITE the section number/letter of any of the facts entered into evidence in your critique, i.e.: If you have a problem with:

"1. The primary law of the United States Federal Government was set forth in the U.S. Constitution ("Constitution"), which provides that the first branch of government is the Legislative Branch ("Congress"). Pursuant to Article I, Section 8, Congress has certain powers and obligations regarding oversight of foreign affairs, including the powers to: (1) declare war; (2) raise and support the armed forces; and (3) tax and spend for the common good."

Begin your comments with:

1. This is incorrect because....

or...

13. A "false" or "fraudulent" representation is one that is: (a) made with knowledge that it is untrue; (b) a half-truth; (c) made without a reasonable basis or with reckless indifference as to whether it is, in fact, true or false; or (d) literally true, but intentionally presented in a manner reasonably calculated to deceive a person of ordinary prudence and intelligence. The knowing concealment or omission of information that a reasonable person would consider important in deciding an issue also constitutes fraud.

13. This is incorrect because it.....

or...

42. By September 12, 2002, without approval by, or notice to, Congress, BUSH had caused the movement of 40,000 military personnel and over 350,000 tons of equipment to areas around Iraq. Franks also ordered Central Command to be moved to Al Udeid Air Base near Doha, Qatar.

42. The following facts contradict that allegation....

Once we remember to STAY FOCUSED perhaps we can get around to discussing the FACTS presented in evidence....

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 9:42:58 AM

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Except for the 7 virgins for everybody and I dont see much difference between their goals and those of Islamic fundamentalists.

Sinergy,
That's because you view the situation with very jaded eyes. Who, as a representative or leader of any group or political party has made a similar comment regarding their religion? This is a direct quote from Omar Ahmad Co-founder and former National Chairman of CAIR.

quote:

Those who stay in America should be 'open to society without melting (into it),' keeping mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam, he said. 'If you choose to live here (in America)... you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam,' he said. Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant, he said. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth, he said." (Lisa Gardiner, San Ramon Valley Herald, 'American Muslim leader urges faithful to spread Islam's message,' July 4, 1998)

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 9:49:15 AM

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This is a direct quote from Omar Ahmad Co-founder and former National Chairman of CAIR.

Given the 1st Amendment's prohibition on joining Church and State, who cares what someone ignorant of our fundamental basis of liberty and freedom thinks?

You'll find assholes everywhere.

Of course, we'd be more secure in the 1st Amendment, if the 2nd, 4th, and 14th hadn't already been trashed, so perhaps you've got a point.

We need to get the Feds out of regulating firearms, so that in case some muslims do what the Neocons did and hijack the executive office, we have some sort of response.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 10:04:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

Except for the 7 virgins for everybody and I dont see much difference between their goals and those of Islamic fundamentalists.

Sinergy,
That's because you view the situation with very jaded eyes. Who, as a representative or leader of any group or political party has made a similar comment regarding their religion? This is a direct quote from Omar Ahmad Co-founder and former National Chairman of CAIR.

quote:

Those who stay in America should be 'open to society without melting (into it),' keeping mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam, he said. 'If you choose to live here (in America)... you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam,' he said. Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant, he said. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth, he said." (Lisa Gardiner, San Ramon Valley Herald, 'American Muslim leader urges faithful to spread Islam's message,' July 4, 1998)

Seriously do not think there is any difference between this view and Pat Robertson to be honest with you. He did run for the presidency, and he more or less spreads the word to Christian evangelicals of who to vote for in the form of Christian voting guides that the Christian Coalition prints up.

quote:

If Christian people work together, they can succeed during this decade in winning back control of the institutions that have been taken from them over the past 70 years. Expect confrontations that will be not only unpleasant but at times physically bloody.... This decade will not be for the faint of heart, but the resolute. Institutions will be plunged into wrenching change. We will be living through one of the most tumultuous periods of human history. When it is over, I am convinced God's people will emerge victorious.
-- Pat Robertson, Pat Robertson's Perspective Oct-Nov 1992

quote:

We at the Christian Coalition are raising an army who cares. We are training people to be effective -- to be elected to school boards, to city councils, to state legislatures, and to key positions in political parties.... By the end of this decade, if we work and give and organize and train, THE CHRISTIAN COALITION WILL BE THE MOST POWERFUL POLITICAL ORGANIZATION IN AMERICA
-- Pat Robertson, in a fundraising letter, July 4, 1991

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We have a court that has essentially stuck its finger in God's eye. We have insulted God at the highest levels of our government. Then, we say, "Why does this happen?" It is happening because God Almighty is lifting His protection from us.
-- Pat Robertson, blaming American lifestyles for bringing God's judgement upon us in the form of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, in a three-page statement released Thursday, September 13, 2001, quoted from AANEWS #958 by American Atheists (September 14, 2001), and from Dick Meyer, "Holy Smoke," CBS News (September 15, 2001)

quote:

Good or Bad, God Picks Bush Because He's Christian
I think George Bush is going to win in a walk. I really believe that I'm hearing from the Lord it's going to be like a blowout election of 2004. It's shaping up that way. The Lord has just blessed him.... I mean, he could make terrible mistakes and comes out of it. It doesn't make any difference what he does, good or bad. God picks him up because he's a man of prayer and God's blessing him.
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, , January 2, 2004 ††

[quote] US Constitution: For Christians Only
The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by the Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society. And that's what's been happening.
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, December 30, 1981

Link to this site of quotes http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/revpat.htm

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 10:19:09 AM

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Seriously do not think there is any difference between this view and Pat Robertson to be honest with you

Julia,
As a honest person - where in any of your quotes of Pat Robertson, or anyone else from any religion, was there the exclusionary language of the Muslim representative? It's one thing to shout "god is our our side". It's quite another to say that only our sides 'god' will be accepted.

But I'm sure you don't see any difference and I won't try to move you from your perspective.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 10:25:25 AM

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If you do not read those quotes the same way I do, I do not know what to say. He talks about blood shed, how this is a country for christians.. that is just a SAMPLING of the crap he spews. I am an honest person, I read that as him wanting a Christian nation for Christians only, the rest of us do not belong. Now if you do not read that the same way as I do, well there is not much I can say, but I am TRUTHFULLY saying I see NO DIFFERENCE.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 10:33:49 AM

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I am an honest person, I read that as him wanting a Christian nation for Christians only, the rest of us do not belong.

Exactly my point. Nothing you quoted comes close to this: Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant, he said. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 11:34:53 AM

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... Since you didn't even read the FIRST 2 LINES of the model indictment post, why should we bother listening to you?

...You didn't even read the model indictment. Go actually read it, and remember what the VERY FIRST LINES SAY.

... ACTUALLY reading the Model Indictment and addressing the facts in evidence?

... I'm wondering why READING the model indictment yourself doesn't clearly outline the logic and facts in evidence behind her claim.

You seem a bit preoccupied with the idea that I would be impressed if I read the "model indictment", and you seem even more disturbed with the notion that I haven't. Please take note...

I did read it.

I wasn't impressed.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

The word is INDICT. It's a pretty basic part of our legal system, and unrelated to impeachment in any way.

Really? I am intimately familiar with legal terminology, thank you.

Let me help clarify something for you that you seem to misunderstand.

Charges and evidence are brought before a Grand Jury by a prosecutor. It is the Grand Jury that issues an indictment, not the prosecutor. Your "model indictment" appears to simply skip that step.

(In case you weren't aware, impeachment is, in fact, the legal statement of charges made by an appropriate tribunal after examining and determining that sufficient evidence exists with which to prosecute a public official. In essence, it parallels an indictment in criminal law.)

Again, indictments are issued by a Grand Jury... not presented to a Grand Jury by a prosecutor.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

... Before suggesting *I'm* losing my cool, perhaps you'd like to correct the flaws in your argument. Remember, as the entire model indictment post says, CITE the section number/letter of any of the facts entered into evidence in your critique ...

If I were making an argument in the first place, that might make a difference.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 11:41:51 AM

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Google: Christian America Over All.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7235393/the_crusaders/

Excerpt from article:

quote:

To rouse themselves, they kick off the festivities with "Soldiers of the Cross, Arise," the bloodthirstiest tune in all of Christendom: "Seize your armor, gird it on/Now the battle will be won/Soon, your enemies all slain/Crowns of glory you shall gain."

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Meet the Dominionists -- biblical literalists who believe God has called them to take over the U.S. government. As the far-right wing of the evangelical movement, Dominionists are pressing an agenda that makes Newt Gingrich's Contract With America look like the Communist Manifesto. They want to rewrite schoolbooks to reflect a Christian version of American history, pack the nation's courts with judges who follow Old Testament law, post the Ten Commandments in every courthouse and make it a felony for gay men to have sex and women to have
abortions.

Well, I guess you could interpret that as not as vitriolic as the craziest of fundamentalist Muslims...

Later on in the same article:

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"Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost," Kennedy says. "As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society."

That's still not killing people... How about later...

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The Dominionists recite an oath they dream of hearing in every classroom: "I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag, and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands. One Savior, crucified, risen and coming again, with life and liberty for all who believe."

Taking oaths to deprive non-believers of live and liberty. Hmmm... Sounds like the Taliban again, doesn't it?

Fundamentalists of ANY stripe are a cancer on society, and Fundamentalists with NATIONALIST ambitions are the most dangerous of them all.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/9/2007 11:54:19 AM

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When/if the Dominions become as populated and accepted mainstream as CAIR and the Muslim I'll be concerned. Meanwhile - you keep an eye out for them.

btw - you could also have mentioned the American Nazi party, or the KKK and they would have been just as relevant. Their "religion" is no less fringe and the Dominions.

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