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Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 6:37:30 AM

Master4slavlisa

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I would like to hear what a Master/Dom's responsibilites are to his if he clains them as owned?
I am enterering into thinking of such and would like to know what thier resaponsibilites are. Yu always hear for the submissions part but what of the Dom/Master's?

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 7:25:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: Master4slavlisa

I would like to hear what a Master/Dom's responsibilites are to his if he clains them as owned?
I am enterering into thinking of such and would like to know what thier resaponsibilites are. Yu always hear for the submissions part but what of the Dom/Master's?

There aren't any hard and fast rules. The responsibilities are those which the master choses to accept. If he or she takes doesn't take on enough or the right responsibilities in the view of the slave, eventually he or she will leave.

In short, each relationship is unique.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 7:42:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: Master4slavlisa

I would like to hear what a Master/Dom's responsibilites are to his if he clains them as owned?
I am enterering into thinking of such and would like to know what thier resaponsibilites are. Yu always hear for the submissions part but what of the Dom/Master's?

Tal,

I have only one measuring stick. If I can afford the slave, then I get a slave. I would clothe her, feed her, take her out, cover her by insurance and hospital, etc. Once you can do that to a female submissive/slave, then you can get one. I also tend to take into account if a Dom/Master takes on a submissive, and she works. Still only take into account, YOUR money, let her income be seperate from your working out the budget. This way her money is a benefit to the relationship, and that could help in taking a holiday...while you're taking the holiday she can stay at home and look after the house...ROFL. Let her money be the benefit, and live with YOUR money.

Be well and take care.

Master Frank Ar.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 8:25:51 AM

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Honesty

and more....
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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 9:08:37 AM

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They are whatever he wants them to be. However, different levels of care and responsibility will render different results.

My Master feels responsible for my overall well being - physical, mental and emotional. Because of this, he has taught me to care for myself, think for myself, and love myself. He invested a lot of energy in doing that, but he asks himself, "What kind of Master would I be if I did not challenge my slave to grow into her fullest potential?" He feels he would be shortchanging us both if he kept me idle and undeveloped - he would not enjoy the best slave I can become, and I would not find freedom in the ultimate destruction of all barriers to him.

Last night I mentioned some thoughts I had briefly struggled with, and said "I didn't want to make this your problem." His response was, "Any time you have a problem, it is my problem." He likened me to a violin, which when even slightly out of tune, can disrupt an entire symphony. He finds it his responsibility to ensure I am always in tune.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 9:23:24 AM

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This is a very open ended question to which the true answer is: what do YOU think they are? I my opinion, it stems from not having an idea of what you truly want and how much responsibility you want and can have. I have been there and am still there, in a lot of way, as have we all. Think about what kind of control you want to have over your slave. Do you want financial control, clothing control, sexual control? Let's assume you decide you're taking over clothing; you want your slave to dress a certain way. Who then bares the responsibility of purchasing the clothes that please you, you, them or both? Any answer is valid, as long as you make it clear upfront (that's called informed consent).

Sit and think about what you want...write it down. Then, sit and think about what responsibilities you want to have in those areas. Write those down, too. Then, you have notes to share with potential slaves.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 11:33:59 AM

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He likened me to a violin, which when even slightly out of tune, can disrupt an entire symphony. He finds it his responsibility to ensure I am always in tune.

"Twas battered and scarred, and the auctioneer
thought it scarcely worth his while
To waste much time on the old violin,
But held it up with a smile.
"What am I bidden, good folks," he cried,
"Who'll start the bidding for me?"
"A dollar, a dollar," then, two! Only two?
"Two dollars, and who'll make it three?
"Three dollars, once; three dollars, twice;
Going for three . . ." But no,
From the room, far back, a grey-haired man
Came forward and picked up the bow;
Then, wiping the dust from the old violin,
And tightening the loose strings,
He played a melody pure and sweet
As a caroling angel sings.

The music ceased, and the auctioneer,
With a voice that was quiet and low,
Said: "What am I bid for the old violin?"
And he held it up with the bow.
"A thousand dollars, and who'll make it two?
"Two thousand! And who'll make it three?
"Three thousand, once; three thousand, twice;
And going and gone."said he.

The people cheered, but some of them cried,
"We do not quite understand
What changed its worth?" Swift came the reply:
"The touch of a master's hand."

And many a person with life out of tune,
And battered and scarred with things,
Is auctioned cheap to the thoughtless crowd,
Much like the old violin.
A 'mess of potage,' a glass of wine;
A game - and he travels on.
He is 'going' once, and 'going' twice,
He's 'going' and almost 'gone'.
But the Master comes and the foolish crowd
Never can quite understand
The worth of a soul and the change that's wrought
By the touch of the Master's Hand.

Myra B Welch

(I change a few of the words...always loved that poem) Your post reminded me of it.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 11:39:34 AM

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Beautiful, Jali. Thank you.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 2:32:31 PM

Siona

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That was beautiful jali.
So much truth in that poem.
Thanks for sharing.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 3:05:26 PM

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I am responsible for my slaves housing, hygiene, health, and nutritional needs.

I am not responsible for providing her with love, affection, honesty, gratitude, fairness, respect, praise, or any of a host of other things. This is not to say that my slave will not recieve these things, but as my slave she stakes no claim to being entitled to any of them.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 3:36:45 PM

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I am responsible for my slaves housing, hygiene, health, and nutritional needs.

I am not responsible for providing her with love, affection, honesty, gratitude, fairness, respect, praise, or any of a host of other things.

I found your comment interesting...How do you define the line within yourself of what you are responsible for in regards to a slave? And...if you are not responsible for anything regarding your slaves emotional and mental welfare (ie. the only things you mentioned were physical responsibilities)..why did you stop there and not include physical welfare as a non-responsibility too?

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 4:09:03 PM

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I have to say that in my opinion, if one wants complete control of another person, one must take on complete responsibility for their total wellbeing, that is only fair... if you don't care for them completely, how can you expect them to give themselve to you completely?

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/6/2007 4:32:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

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I am responsible for my slaves housing, hygiene, health, and nutritional needs.

I am not responsible for providing her with love, affection, honesty, gratitude, fairness, respect, praise, or any of a host of other things.

I found your comment interesting...How do you define the line within yourself of what you are responsible for in regards to a slave? And...if you are not responsible for anything regarding your slaves emotional and mental welfare (ie. the only things you mentioned were physical responsibilities)..why did you stop there and not include physical welfare as a non-responsibility too?

jali,

I draw the line of what I am obligated to provide my slave at the minimum of basis necessities. Anything past those needs are bonuses that may be given, but should never be expected. When I say health, it includes mental/emotional health as well as physical. Her dietary needs include avoiding MSG as it causes severe headaches in her, and so I take this into account. Her personal tastes in food is not taken into account. I see her mental welfare in the same light as her physical welfare. If she is ill, she receives medical care. If she is experiencing only discomfort, no care is needed.

I would never consider myself unresponsible for the health of any living property of mine. I would see to it that any pet or livestock of mine was provided with adequate care, and consider a slave to be a more complex and valuable possession than pets and livestock and treat her accordingly. If I choose to to show her love or affection, I will, but as a slave she is not entitled to any show of emotion from me, nor does she expect it.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/7/2007 8:57:44 AM

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I agree with you DragonGirl. I suppose aslaveslife has a point in that a slave should not expect love, etc.; however that may be why I do not and cannot consider myself a slave. I wouldn't be able to live with one who didn't love me.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/7/2007 4:30:04 PM

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I have to say that in my opinion, if one wants complete control of another person, one must take on complete responsibility for their total wellbeing, that is only fair... if you don't care for them completely, how can you expect them to give themselve to you completely?

I totally agree with you.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/7/2007 5:33:00 PM

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For me it would be to be true to themselves and honest to me about it.

But I hold that for all of my personal relationships.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/7/2007 7:12:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

I am responsible for my slaves housing, hygiene, health, and nutritional needs.

I am not responsible for providing her with love, affection, honesty, gratitude, fairness, respect, praise, or any of a host of other things. This is not to say that my slave will not recieve these things, but as my slave she stakes no claim to being entitled to any of them.

I actually agree with his reasoning here. Nicely stated.

edited to add:
Opps looked at the profile and its a she; I think. Sorry.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/8/2007 12:00:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: Tikkiee

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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

I am responsible for my slaves housing, hygiene, health, and nutritional needs.

I am not responsible for providing her with love, affection, honesty, gratitude, fairness, respect, praise, or any of a host of other things. This is not to say that my slave will not recieve these things, but as my slave she stakes no claim to being entitled to any of them.

I actually agree with his reasoning here. Nicely stated.

edited to add:
Opps looked at the profile and its a she; I think. Sorry.

It was the male half that wrote it. The photos are of my slave. The profile is female slave because the only couples options are Dom/Dom or sub/sub, neither of which apply to us. No offense taken.

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/8/2007 8:07:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

I am responsible for my slaves housing, hygiene, health, and nutritional needs.

I am not responsible for providing her with love, affection, honesty, gratitude, fairness, respect, praise, or any of a host of other things. This is not to say that my slave will not recieve these things, but as my slave she stakes no claim to being entitled to any of them.

Greetings

While i would agree with most of what you have written here, i would have to question as to why you would think that honesty was not a responsibility that should be required?

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RE: Masters responsibilites to owned sub/slave - 1/8/2007 8:21:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: ardelle

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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

I am responsible for my slaves housing, hygiene, health, and nutritional needs.

I am not responsible for providing her with love, affection, honesty, gratitude, fairness, respect, praise, or any of a host of other things. This is not to say that my slave will not recieve these things, but as my slave she stakes no claim to being entitled to any of them.

Greetings

While i would agree with most of what you have written here, i would have to question as to why you would think that honesty was not a responsibility that should be required?

Honesty is a quality, not a responsibility. I feel no reason to be dishonest with my slave, but I have no obligation to be honest either. I think perhaps that we share a different definition of the word slave. Why should I be required to be honest with my property?

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