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SusanofO -> RE: There is No God by Penn Jillette (1/9/2007 11:59:43 PM)
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Invictus754: I see your point, and I agree it's an interesting topic -but, my context is very personal - I am saying I personally need to believe there's a reason I was born (besides that my mom and dad's egg and sperm met, etc.) - I am not saying I need to justify why I need a reason to anyone else who doesn't need a reason.
If you don't wonder why you're here, or need a reason, then you certainly don't need anyone's permission, except your own - to not need one.
With all due respect, likewise, neither do I. It's a personal preference, regarding how I put how I view the world into a form that makes the most sense - to me. I don't care if it makes sense to anyone else - because I don't really care, deep down, what other people want to believe, as far as the "God question" goes. I honestly don't. I do care what I personally choose to believe, and that's about all. I have figured out "what works for me." Anyone else, is of course (as always) free to believe whatever they want.
BUT - I will say this: I just cannot help but wonder why this topic comes up so often - whether or not God exists, that is. And, I've noticed, it's usually brought up by someone who "isn't wondering, really" whether there actually is a God or not, (they just want to have a long conversation that sort of debates the issue of whether there is one, hehe) - even though, they of course don't really have to discuss it, mind you, because they've "figured out" already that He/She/It doesn't exist.
Again, with all due respect, I bow to their brain power, then - because they've managed to definitively and logically answer a basically unanswerable question (from the standpint of logic and current science anyway, depending on how you view the progress of science, that is) that has challenged history's greatest minds for millenia. Actually of course, that isn't what has happened at all, when people bring up this topic here. What I think happens is their thought process goes like this:
They can't figure out why the question cannot logically be answered, so they've given up on the root of the question enitrely by saying then, that just because they themselves can't "figure it all out", that it's completely not possible (in other words, it is impossible) that God exists, or might. Talk about illogical thinking! And this "conclusion" is is all due to their fragile ego - and that (to me) is kind of silly (not to mention transparent), in many ways.
Because they are in effect saying that if They (with their 3 pound human brain), can't figure out or definitively prove God exists well, then - it just can't be possible He/She/It does or might exist, even. Because they don't understand it - how anyone else could believe in something they cannot see, and worship It, even.
To me - that just seems stupid. That sort of "reasoning" does seem silly (to me).
Hey - I don't understand how electricity works, and I never see it actually operate, on a minute, molecular, subatomic level. But, I do see lightbulbs light up in my house each night, and I pay my light bill each month anyway. I guess, come to think of it, I believe in many things I cannot always see (besidesthe existence of God and electricity) - things I cannot explain to myself - because I don't understand how they work.
Some of these things I don't understand simply because I've never studied them. Other things "science" hasn't yet figured out at all, or only a little (and who says that science ever definitively gets their "answers" right the first time, as far as that goes?).
Heck - there is a theory that we living beings don't really exist outside our own minds, and that all we (;living beings, maybe even including animals) perceive is an illusion created only when we open our eyes and see whatever it is we see (or use other senses and perceive whatever we do with those). "Reality" - what comes into anyone's particular consciousness - this theory goes, is, literally different for each and every person and living being. This kind of theory blows my mind. I think it's fascinating, even though I don't fully understand it, and - I when I read about it, I still couldn't help but still wonder where the whole conscioussness thing came from. The ability to think and perceive things - at all - in the first place.
But - that's a whole 'nother "area" of discussion.
I'll bet some other people (besides me) have this happen in their lives, too. Believing in all sorts of thi\ngs they don't necessarily understand the intricate workings of, that is. Hmmm.
- Susan
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