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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/14/2007 8:22:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I willingness to try and understand a persons situation or thoughts is better then empathizing with it. You do not have to feel what the other person is feeling, or even understand what the other person is feeling. But a willingness to accept those feelings as having validity, that is what is important.

I think of myself as open minded and willing to accept people as they are, but my level of empathy is pretty low in general.

Being unempathic is not a bad thing really. It helps keep you level headed and thinking logically in unlogical and emotional situations. I, personally, would never see it as a sign of weakness, though I know others would disagree.

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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/14/2007 9:09:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		It took me years too.  But I think I've finally reached the point where I've figured it out, and, on balance, it's a huge gift to have.  I rank it even higher than my curved cock, you know.

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Well I'm an empath, and although I know it's viewed as a gift, let me tell you that it SUCKS sometimes.  There are times I am so overwhelmed by the feelings of others, that I can't even discern if the feelings are mine or someone elses!!

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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/14/2007 10:48:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh god, curved cock anguish is the worst.  Just the mere thought of the poor girls who have to endure it makes me feel their pain.

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It took me years too.  But I think I've finally reached the point where I've figured it out, and, on balance, it's a huge gift to have.  I rank it even higher than my curved cock, you know.

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Well I'm an empath, and although I know it's viewed as a gift, let me tell you that it SUCKS sometimes.  There are times I am so overwhelmed by the feelings of others, that I can't even discern if the feelings are mine or someone elses!!



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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 12:25:16 AM   
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Oh god, curved cock anguish is the worst.  Just the mere thought of the poor girls who have to endure it makes me feel their pain.

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I rank it even higher than my curved cock, you know.

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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 3:08:39 AM   
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Very funnny Lordandmaster.
And for Marie some curved cocks seem to hit my G-spot like no straight cock ever could.
Don't knock all of them over the ones you tried.
Some curvey cocks I tried I wish I still had a mould of as it was an Oh My Gosh That's Incredible and not an ouch watch where you put that thing.
suzanne



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ORIGINAL: marieToo

Oh god, curved cock anguish is the worst.  Just the mere thought of the poor girls who have to endure it makes me feel their pain.

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It took me years too.  But I think I've finally reached the point where I've figured it out, and, on balance, it's a huge gift to have.  I rank it even higher than my curved cock, you know.

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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

Well I'm an empath, and although I know it's viewed as a gift, let me tell you that it SUCKS sometimes.  There are times I am so overwhelmed by the feelings of others, that I can't even discern if the feelings are mine or someone elses!!



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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 5:23:17 AM   
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Don't knock it till you've tried it.

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

Oh god, curved cock anguish is the worst.  Just the mere thought of the poor girls who have to endure it makes me feel their pain.

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I rank it even higher than my curved cock, you know.



I have to agree with the "Don't knock it till you've tried it" statement.

LaM's Curve is heaven.


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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 9:26:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Long before I ever heard the words empathy or empath I used to say that I just "felt too much". I cannot watch alot of movies that other people watch, especially true story stuff, because I get lost in feeling the agony of the characters. Explains why I also found acting so easy but far too draining.

Oddly, I am not a very sympathetic person. I hate alot of emotional drama and tend to call bullshit on people that continually draw it towards themselves. I am sure we all know the type, always some major crisis in their lives that never seems to be their fault.When those that have not been sucked into it, have been around long enough to see a pattern of individual in question being very much responsible for it. Whiners tend to just piss me right off.

In retrospect I think it is self protection on my part. I learned to put up barriers to keep the stress of others emotions from draining me. It may also be why I do not let alot of people close and prefer to spend much of my free time with animals and controlling my human interactions.

What is really weird is that I can watch tv programmes that analyse serial killers and not have it bother me at all. Instead I find it fascinating, the few degrees of difference between Richard Kuklinski and anyone else that suffered an abusive childhood but never hurt a soul. I can watch it and understand why that man was the way he was, even feel some sympathy for he and his family, watch horrible graphic video clips of crime scenes and then go sleep like a baby. Yet, a movie like Auschwitz I have yet to be able to get past the first 1/2 hour. I can literally feel the terror and misery of all of it like I am there.

I haven't really looked at why I have different reactions to different situations. I think part of it is the difference between a factual documentary and a more human and emotional story line.

Similarly with human issues, if I can keep a distance then I don't feel so much. If I let the person close it becomes almost overwhelming.


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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 10:46:28 AM   
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In retrospect I think it is self protection on my part. I learned to put up barriers to keep the stress of others emotions from draining me. It may also be why I do not let alot of people close and prefer to spend much of my free time with animals and controlling my human interactions.


This is why I spend so much time alone.  My Master wants me to learn to be more social and it is very difficult for me.  He made me go out by myself last weekend and I had to get tipsy just to do it and was miserable the whole time.

And I also prefer to spend most of my time with my big, furry son, Thunder.  I have an empathic connection to animals as well.  I tried working at the local animal shelter and lasted half a day.   I can't watch a lot of the shows on Animal Planet because they tear me up inside.

Gah!  There are days when I think it'd be easier to go live in a cave, but I'd probably end up in one inhabited by an overwrought bear!


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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 11:29:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
In retrospect I think it is self protection on my part. I learned to put up barriers to keep the stress of others emotions from draining me. It may also be why I do not let a lot of people close and prefer to spend much of my free time with animals and controlling my human interactions.


This is why I spend so much time alone.  My Master wants me to learn to be more social and it is very difficult for me.  He made me go out by myself last weekend and I had to get tipsy just to do it and was miserable the whole time.

And I also prefer to spend most of my time with my big, furry son, Thunder.  I have an empathic connection to animals as well.  I tried working at the local animal shelter and lasted half a day.   I can't watch a lot of the shows on Animal Planet because they tear me up inside.

Gah!  There are days when I think it'd be easier to go live in a cave, but I'd probably end up in one inhabited by an overwrought bear!



Mine is the opposite,
I'm so extroverted I go out and love interacting with people.
The problem in that lies most say a good sub in public is indeed quiet and only speaks when spoken to. Some even say you don't look at anyone in their face if you're a good sub, except when you smile. To me, being I'm who I am I see me bing quiet and drawn in like I'm depressed or something and hate it.
At the same time I want to be a good sub.
At best I'm considered a mouthy, uneducated, non protocol following bottom because it's not in me yet to act the way you do naturally in public.
Go Figure, both against the middle, and still no definite good answer.
Sometimes I wonder if I will ever move above a bottom to a sub, sometimes I'm a fraction of the way to giving up as it's hard to be someone other than you and still be able to be you too.
I understand how you feel.
LOL maybe we should trade personalities in public, then we'd both have what's supposedly desired in our own lives.
Thank God Sir Rob does not see it this way, but I affect his public image because I'm NOT shy or introverted.

suzanne

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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 12:30:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh good grief yes, I was offered a job as direction of a local shelter and almost took it until it was pointed out to me all the reasons I would not be able to handle it.

Hell, I cannot even watch that programme on Animal Planet about the animal control officers.

Sheesh, I am such a puss sometimes.


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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 3:25:59 PM   
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I'm so extroverted I go out and love interacting with people.
The problem in that lies most say a good sub in public is indeed quiet and only speaks when spoken to. Some even say you don't look at anyone in their face if you're a good sub, except when you smile.


suzanne,

In my opinion that is ridiculous.  I have had the pleasure to meet a slave who was extroverted, with a very bubbly and engaging personality, but was so intune with her master that at his slightest signal was there to be of service to him.  It was wonderful to see a M/s relationship where the personalities of both were cherished and enhanced rather than stifled.

While there may be many who won't consider you very submissive for whatever reason, the only opinions that matter are yours and the dominant you end up serving.

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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 3:48:30 PM   
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Don't knock it till you've tried it.



I have to agree with the "Don't knock it till you've tried it" statement.

LaM's Curve is heaven.



I am still trying to figure out how we went from empathy to curved cocks...

But I will second the "don't knock it till you've tried it".  They just get all the right places.



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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 4:15:37 PM   
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I am still trying to figure out how we went from empathy to curved cocks...

But I will second the "don't knock it till you've tried it".  They just get all the right places.




well... all you ladies that have tried it could attempt to have empathy for those that haven't tried it....


an  um.. well LaM and I will make ever effort to share the um experience so they no longer have to long for this hidden treasure.

It is after all the compassionate thing to do...


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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 4:18:33 PM   
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well... all you ladies that have tried it could attempt to have empathy for those that haven't tried it....


an  um.. well LaM and I will make ever effort to share the um experience so they no longer have to long for this hidden treasure.

It is after all the compassionate thing to do...



Exercising your feeling my Lord?

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RE: Perspectives and Empathy - 1/15/2007 6:17:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

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I'm so extroverted I go out and love interacting with people.
The problem in that lies most say a good sub in public is indeed quiet and only speaks when spoken to. Some even say you don't look at anyone in their face if you're a good sub, except when you smile.

suzanne,

In my opinion that is ridiculous.  I have had the pleasure to meet a slave who was extroverted, with a very bubbly and engaging personality, but was so intune with her master that at his slightest signal was there to be of service to him.  It was wonderful to see a M/s relationship where the personalities of both were cherished and enhanced rather than stifled.

While there may be many who won't consider you very submissive for whatever reason, the only opinions that matter are yours and the dominant you end up serving.

Knight's kyra

LOL another instance in which I'm just going to have to settle for being an atrocious slave.  This certainly wouldn't have worked for me when I led our group's business meetings.

I understand the shyness and the pain of it.  But, like all things, I'm not going to be limited by my fears and weaknesses.  I am picky about what social engagements I go to, and make sure they suit me whenever possible.

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