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RandomGAGirl -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 8:29:09 AM)

I've stumbled across Doms that don't want to 'date' and immediatly want to get into some sort of hardcore scene two seconds after meeting up.  Since I don't just trust anyone to tie me up and throw me in a closet I have tried to avoid the types but I know what you mean.  I personally like the whole package and don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to do vanilla things with my Master because I know I'm not going to 'forget' that I am owned or anything just because we are at the movies or something.  But I have known women who don't feel the same way... 




mignoette -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 8:56:50 AM)

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mgdartist -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 9:37:05 AM)

While I understand the need for trust, patience and sincerity from the sub's posts I've read, from a male Dominants perspective, it's just a very frustrating waiting game. I finally posted the following in my offsite profile to sift out all but serious shoppers:
"Dont knock unless you're available~-A Dominants Profile~
and..
~Thanks for coming~
Many come here for the videos, which is fine, do enjoy.
Many have contacted me, because of my poetry and prose, and seek my friendship, and association or consortation.
While I like to meet all, I am finding they but dally for a time and go, not seeing my purpose with all this is to find true love,
of a deviant kind. With only one woman, who is my perfect match and soulmate.
If you contact me, I ask that your purpose be as seeking this currently also.
Thanks."

I'm always amused when women post comments like "don't waste my time," and "I dont have time for... " this or that type considerations, when during every association I've made here, my time has been deemed valueless, having little or nothing to do with her final decision one way or another. I have been thru nearly a full year now, and as I'd previously presumed that should be enough, am learning that many, both men and women have had to wait far longer.  So be it, and I don't see myself as better than anyone, but it does seem as though making the transition from "vanilla dating" to the type relation we seek in this lifestyle is far more tricky and difficult than in the vanilla world, which I guess naively, I originally assumed would, and should be easier, since while we may have slightly different expectations, are all in fact, seeking very similar things. I do my best not to be so ultra picky, as simply having her submission in any form, is far preferable to being stuck in a vanilla relation again. I may be the only one on the site with such an idea, as everyone else seems bent on finding some perfect, exacting, parallel match. Perhaps I will also learn the need for this, being for all intents and purposes here, but a rookie seeker...lol.
Albeit not, and far from, a rookie Dominant.

MGD





SimplyMichael -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 9:38:15 AM)

This thread is amazing, so now I not only have to date fat chicks I have to wine and dine them first as well?  Drop me a line when it is my turn to make a decision, will you?




KnightofMists -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 9:40:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

This thread is amazing, so now I not only have to date fat chicks I have to wine and dine them first as well?  Drop me a line when it is my turn to make a decision, will you?


That is highly presumptous of you to think you get to make a decision!!!  My god... the shalllowness of men!!!!




mgdartist -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 9:44:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

This thread is amazing, so now I not only have to date fat chicks I have to wine and dine them first as well?  Drop me a line when it is my turn to make a decision, will you?


That is highly presumptous of you to think you get to make a decision!!!  My god... the shalllowness of men!!!!


ROF
oh god <still laughin> thank you both.




BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 10:17:28 AM)

Well I wish my Master would take me on a date, but He obviously feels different. [:o]




slavegirljoy -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 10:37:28 AM)

For me, i have never really felt very comfortable being "on a date" with my Master.  For me, it is too much like being seen as "a couple" or a "boyfriend/girlfriend" rather than just being Master and slave.  i feel weird when i am being treated like something i'm not.  i feel like i have to play act as though i am something other than His slave and put on a show for public appearances and i don't like it.  i am much more comfortable being kept in my place, which is at my Master's feet (or under them) and serving Him, rather than being served by a waitress.

slave joy
Owned property of Master David

quote:

ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

Well I wish my Master would take me on a date, but He obviously feels different. [:o]




spankmepink11 -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 11:27:09 AM)

Hmmm...This is interersting.  I've never really compared vanilla courtship/dating to my BDSM realtionships.  In the two most significant BDSM realtionships i enjoyed, the "courtship" process  was mostly online and through phone conversations. Both of these people lived of  couple hours distance from me, so our time was limited to a night and partial day on the weekends.  I never wanted to waste any of that time being "courted", going out to dinners etc.   We seldom left what ever location we got together in, be it one of our homes, or a hotel somewhere in the middle.




Sunshine119 -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 11:48:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I very much agree that such men should be avoided. The only problem is, there are too few who aren't that way. Not nearly enough to go around. That's why the jerks need to be convinced to start dating bdsm women instead of   vanillas.


OK...I've got to jump in halfway through reading this thread and answer this.   My Dom and I met on a vanilla site, talked for a few days, and had ONE date that had nothing to do with BDSM.  I immediately discerned that he was the strongest, most dominant man I had ever met.  I knew I craved that kind of strength with every fiber of my being, especially since I must be so dominant at work.  After that first date, he talked about what he was into, I listened with strong distaste because I have a sister who is a ProDomme, and not a pleasant person at all.

My perceptions of BDSM were clouded by what I saw with her.  The man I have been with now for over two years didn't like the .alt type of meat market, but was hoping he would find someone like me in the "vanilla" world.  He introduced me into a different kind of world entirely.  One where I could have my maschocistic needs met, my nyph needs met, could serve in the bedroom, kitchen and throughout every other aspect of life, yet be totally and utterly loved and treasured.

We are anything but VANILLA!!  I serve in every capacity. We are BD-D/s-SM and live together where I can serve his needs 24/7.

Thank God Vanilla dating isn't dead.

Sunshine




akbarbarian -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 3:29:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I very much agree that such men should be avoided. The only problem is, there are too few who aren't that way. Not nearly enough to go around. That's why the jerks need to be convinced to start dating bdsm women instead of   vanillas.

Having low standards, as well as planning to top from the bottom sounds like an incredibly bad plan to me.  I'd work on the self esteem, set your standards higher, then yield and let someone else do the topping if I was sub seeking dom.  Even if you could change a jerk, would you really want a dom you could control and if you did would the dom really be that happy since he came into a relationship with the initial desire to be the one in control?




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 4:10:04 PM)

Set my standards higher? I've been told by many that they're too high. How does wanting to be dated rather than be treated like a discreet nobody the dom would never be seen in public with relate to topping from the bottom? There are 2 ways to use someone and one of those ways is negative. Wanting to actually have value is not topping from the bottom. It's called not wanting to get played. By the way, I'm a switch.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 6:02:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

This thread is amazing, so now I not only have to date fat chicks I have to wine and dine them first as well?  Drop me a line when it is my turn to make a decision, will you?


Easy for men not to want to date "fat chicks" when they don't carry babies that stretch out their skin. How nice it must be for men to only provide the sperm and keep their perfect bodies. The truth is, there aren't enough doms and switch men in their 20's and 30's in comparison to the # of women. I have seen the same thing with  lack of jobs due to outsourcing and immigration. For every position (whether it be for a job or a bdsm partner), there are several hundred applicants. Just like employers, doms are playing the unequal ratio for all it's worth.




mnottertail -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 6:10:08 PM)

And women show their cleavage because of the repeal of the birka laws in the winter of aught six?   WTF? Why disparage a motherfucker cause he wants to dip his wick?  What is the overriding principle at work here?  BDSM VS Vanilla Dating? 

Tom vs Jerry?  Hanna vs Barberra?  Yogi vs The Ranger?

Somebody walk me thru this please?

Ron




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 6:30:27 PM)

The principle here is that too many men wanting to dip their wick like to do so with multiple women. Many of these men use and discard bdsm women while dating and falling in love with vanilla women who can't meet all their needs. The best way for bdsm women to avoid this is to stay away from such players. The problem with this is that there are few bdsm men who aren't players and those that aren't already have someone. Consequently, many women either have to agree to casual play and end up with their hearts broken, or they have to wait years before finding someone who will actually care for and respect them.




mnottertail -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 6:40:31 PM)

Laudable and oh so sad....

I remember when I was growing up and had an idea that there was a chance to park the cadillac in the garage...Seems like the numbers were about 27 percent of men fucked around and 17 percent of women, more recent polling says it is around 35 all.

Fully 30 percent plus off all children born, are not actually fathered by those who think they own the magic wad...the mighty pole, the breaker of womens hearts...

kinda makes my dick shrivel when I hear about how a womans heart is rended and the absolute astoundment of the damsels in distress, how could they have been so beguiled, by such rotten bastards?

I am not moved in the least.


You got fucked over?  One in a million I would say...

Ron   




KatyLied -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 6:40:43 PM)

quote:

Somebody walk me thru this please?


Bad girls give bj's without promise of steak & flowers.
Good girls want steak & flowers, then perhaps they will give consideration to the bj issue.

[8D]

Edited to add teasing little emote so Ron will know I'm joking.




justheather -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 6:43:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

Somebody walk me thru this please?


Bad girls give bj's without promise of steak & flowers.
Good girls want steak & flowers, then perhaps they will give consideration to the bj issue.


What if all you want is a sore ass and a bottle of $2.99 sangria?
What are you then?




juliaoceania -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 6:43:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

Somebody walk me thru this please?


Bad girls give bj's without promise of steak & flowers.
Good girls want steak & flowers, then perhaps they will give consideration to the bj issue.



Bad girls that give great blow jobs get Vietnamese food after they have done the deed, and maybe a StarBucks Grande Mocha with extra whipped cream[sm=trident.gif]




KatyLied -> RE: Vanilla dating vs. BDSM dating (1/15/2007 6:43:51 PM)

cheap maso!




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