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smirkingsheep -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/17/2007 9:49:17 PM)

I'm an 18 year old sub, and I'm fairly certain I'm a genuine sub.  But dispite that, I'm not on this site looking for a Dom, because as others have said, I'm just exploring.  I know some people could be potentially extremely discouraging (in their approach or their motives), and I'd really rather not be scared off from a lifestyle that I think would suit me very well.
I'm afraid of finding fakes too - whether they know they're a fake or not.  Terrified, I've never wanted to introduce someone to BDSM myself because I'd be afraid they were just doing it to make me happy (I've sort of been in this situation before, it didn't end pleasant).  While I'd definitly want someone close to my own age, I also wouldn't want someone of such an age that claims to be so experienced.  I'd be looking for someone who was upfront about wanting someone to explore with - because I don't know near enough to even pretend I don't need to explore.

I can't remember my point.

EDIT: Maybe my point was that... well.  I could see people not counting my profile as a genuine sub's profile because I'm almost intentionally discouraging.  Is it possible that other subs do the same for similar reasons, but in a different way?  (I try to be very honest about it while trying not to come off like a bitch.  Obviously.)




KnightofMists -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 1:49:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DemonSadist

I'm 25 and have had this problem since I was 18 really. Websites are just totally full of fake pictures, it's a huge pain to trawl through scores of profiles to find one that's real let alone one your compatible with. I'm sure there's more under 25 women who like to submit than to dominate in general, but withtin the bdsm community there sure does seem to be a lack.

Any clues from people more experienced in the community?


keep trolling... you will start getting some nibbles as you approach 30... and hell if your worth your salt... they will be jumping in the boat by 40.




dancingjade -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 8:59:30 AM)

Youre striking out for a variety of reasons. First your screename is kinda cheesy. Second is your attitude. Third, you need to not try so hard.





LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 9:01:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dancingjade
Youre striking out for a variety of reasons. First your screename is kinda cheesy. Second is your attitude. Third, you need to not try so hard.

And I'm sure he'll go crying in his bed where his two girls wait for him.




Amaros -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 9:06:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonSadist

I'm 25 and have had this problem since I was 18 really. Websites are just totally full of fake pictures, it's a huge pain to trawl through scores of profiles to find one that's real let alone one your compatible with. I'm sure there's more under 25 women who like to submit than to dominate in general, but withtin the bdsm community there sure does seem to be a lack.

Any clues from people more experienced in the community?


I see a healthy representitive sample in the profiles, but there may well not be that many commited masochists under 25 - I think it might be something that most gradually come to enjoy, rather than a lifelong thing they can't wait to put into practice on their 18th birthday.

I know a lot of younger women fantasize about it, but that isn't neccessarily the same thing as being able to integrate it into your life - the late teens, early Twenties is a time when you are integrating with the rest of the world, becoming accustomed to working and having responsibilities.

I've seen chicks gel out during this stage, and become very vulnurable, but I dunno if that's the same thing as knowing what you like and seeking it out.




popeye1250 -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 9:14:31 AM)

It's been my experience that most people don't discover this lifestyle until later in life.
I've met many women who didn't discover B&D/M/s until they were in their 30's and 40's.
That's not to say that there aren't women in their teens and 20's who aren't interested in it or who don't fantacise about it.
Some people don't realise that there are many others like themselves out here for whatever reason.




amlonging -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 9:35:23 AM)

Words are powerful. The use of one incorrect word can foul many a girls head.... BUT I think Ron as said the real reason so many under 25 are not responding.....
When it comes to the real thing..looking over the edge... they run like hell.  Even those that come out and say they are looking for real time.
 
Laying out ones desires in a profile is the choice of the writer.  Font or background color are used for a purpose and to condemn the writer for the font or the color seems frivolous to me.
 
But I would like to make one BIG point.... rather than NOT responding, the girls could at least inquire...its not a committment, its not being owned, its just responding with a question or clarification or whatever.  

There are genuine subs under 25.  Subs who have been abused, are scared but still have a desire to submit, are just not sure of what they want...so never ask questions ....  of anyone.  Just post pics and demand a pic in return.

DS asks a question ONLY those under 25 can answer.  And I would venture to guess, not many under 25 read these forum boards.

And I'd like to add...DS has been here TWO days, posted 29 times and has already exhausted his search????  [&:] 




justinasamerk -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 1:19:07 PM)

Speaking as a girl who started in  this lifestyle just shy  of 18 and her experiences...
Why is it  hard to find a submissive girl under 25??

1)College, school, family pressure. If you live in an expensive suburban  area (like in NY)...most girls under 25 are still living at home with family since can't aford to move out
2)still a little confused about what they want, what there place is, what this "lifestyle" is all about. Eager  to learn, yet searching for a strong, intelligent and mature mentor
3)from a young  female perspective guys 25 and under are SOOOOO immature...*shrugs*




jezzabelle -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 1:41:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: justinasamerk

1)College, school, family pressure. If you live in an expensive suburban  area (like in NY)...most girls under 25 are still living at home with family since can't aford to move out
2)still a little confused about what they want, what there place is, what this "lifestyle" is all about. Eager  to learn, yet searching for a strong, intelligent and mature mentor
3)from a young  female perspective guys 25 and under are SOOOOO immature...*shrugs*


i'm sure that others might add to this list things such as, not being ready for a committed relationship at that young of an age, being inexperienced in the lifestyle, they may not know if they are masochists yet and really not ready and eager to get involved with someone that wants to dole out the pain, etc.




Killbotsgirl -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 2:09:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: justinasamerk

Speaking as a girl who started in  this lifestyle just shy  of 18 and her experiences...
Why is it  hard to find a submissive girl under 25??

1)College, school, family pressure. If you live in an expensive suburban  area (like in NY)...most girls under 25 are still living at home with family since can't aford to move out
2)still a little confused about what they want, what there place is, what this "lifestyle" is all about. Eager  to learn, yet searching for a strong, intelligent and mature mentor
3)from a young  female perspective guys 25 and under are SOOOOO immature...*shrugs*
the third point that you have is true to a point however men 25 and older have more experiance and are immature to a point but not to that point where you want to wack them upside the head for being stupid but it also depends on their iq levels the ones that have an iq more then 120 tend to go to the crazy side but hey ya still gotta love their sense of humor




CandleInTheWind -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 3:56:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonSadist

I'm 25 and have had this problem since I was 18 really. Websites are just totally full of fake pictures, it's a huge pain to trawl through scores of profiles to find one that's real let alone one your compatible with. I'm sure there's more under 25 women who like to submit than to dominate in general, but withtin the bdsm community there sure does seem to be a lack.

Any clues from people more experienced in the community?


perhaps becasue it takes some time for women to realize what it is that they are???

I know that it took me a while to be comfortable in whom i am..outside of my marriage




domiguy -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 4:00:52 PM)

Their mentors raped and killed them all..

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.




kyraofMists -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 4:21:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: dancingjade
Youre striking out for a variety of reasons. First your screename is kinda cheesy. Second is your attitude. Third, you need to not try so hard.

And I'm sure he'll go crying in his bed where his two girls wait for him.


LOL 

This put such a cute image in my head.  My Lord is more likely to terrify the girls and come to bed laughing, but if he does end up crying, we will take very good care of him.  Though I am not sure that jade was speaking to him even though her post was in reply to his.

*edited to add... how are you holding up with the ice storm, LA?  Hopefully you have not lost power.

Knight's kyra




wyldsubmissive -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 4:35:14 PM)

Honestly it's hard to find them because at their age (and mine, 19) they're still figuring themselves out. Frankly ones is not settled 'til 30 in my opinion. That does not, however, mean that you cannot be mature about your exploration. Others go "teehee I'm a sub, slave, dom". I received a message from a 19 year old who calls himself a dom because quote "i came here to find a slave cuz im a big dom.  I know what I like,I know what I liked oing. all im claiming.  Ive always dated older woman so when i was about 16 i had a sub girlfriend. she introduced me to it and ever since then ive loved controlling in the bedroom." Needless to say I laughed.

Toodles!

Wyld




Invictus754 -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 4:38:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

Their mentors raped and killed them all..

D.G.


Wouldn't that make them - tormentors? 
 
LOL!




justanotheclaire -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 4:39:11 PM)

im 24 and been in the scene since i turned 20 it took a long time to prove i firstly was really a 20 yr old female and then secondly that i wasnt looking for a kinky shag.  now im treated by those who know me and my privious partners  just like every one else.




DominaSmartass -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 6:53:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: justinasamerk

3)from a young  female perspective guys 25 and under are SOOOOO immature...*shrugs*


That's *exactly* why I chose to go with a 26 year old.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 8:07:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kyraofMists
*edited to add... how are you holding up with the ice storm, LA?  Hopefully you have not lost power.

Knight's kyra

Hardly anyone lost power, and then not for long.  Austinites are wusses when it comes to winter weather :)  I was able to enjoy my continued tradition of doing serious house cleaning on my days off...and went to the gym.

All is melted and just kinda wintry cold now though.

Some awesome pics are up though, if you want to check it out:
http://emeraldliz.livejournal.com/165582.html




whisperedsighs -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/18/2007 8:46:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: asassylilslave

Just a guess but perhaps...just perhaps it's your profile that is scaring them all away [:)]


I actually like his profile...but I am well over 25....

I don't know about the statistics and submissives under 25, but I wish you luck in your quest.




DemonSadist -> RE: Why is it so hard to find genuine sub females under 25? (1/19/2007 4:26:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dancingjade

Youre striking out for a variety of reasons. First your screename is kinda cheesy. Second is your attitude. Third, you need to not try so hard.




Well I'd agree on the screen name. But not really sure why you think I have an attitude, I'm not insulting anyone or being a prick about things. As for trying so hard, I don't know why you think I'm trying hard, all you really know about how hard I'm trying is that I made a profile on collarme.




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