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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 7:27:33 AM   
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Of course, I just find it interesting that few submissive women ask that of dominant men. Like it is just assumed in that instance, but not so in ours.

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 7:40:10 AM   
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Well, it *could* be because submissive women just take it for granted that men are dominant; or, it could just be that they'd rather get their jollies through some other means.  I think this is a fascinating question, one that needs to be studied in depth, and I shall run off to apply for a government grant forthwith.

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 7:41:09 AM   
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HEY!! That's my government grant dammit!

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 9:12:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I wonder why the question is asked so often of females and less so, to the males dominants. Is there some perception that men are more naturally dominant from birth than women?



of course there is.....!!
It is assumed we are "different' and oh my heavans how did it happen?? or how did we maintain this "thing"..we found we had too..?
with the same fascination as those who ask...how a sub man first "knew"

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 9:58:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seekstofasn8adom

How did  it occur and at what age were you when you realised you were a dominant lady please?Me personally i was 17 and i looked at some fetish books when i went into a shop.Well fem dom books actually and i've been hooked ever since,and a very submissive male from that day til now.But how about you what got you hooked into the fetish scene?


What do you mean by this?

When was I conscious of what all of this is called?

When was I conscious that I wanted to be the one in charge?

When can I now see as I look back the first signs of all of this?

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 9:59:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

HEY!! That's my government grant dammit!


If I may quote Inspector Clouseau <insert fake French accent here>:  Not anymore. 

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 10:17:10 AM   
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Maybe the fact that my first sexual fantasies (only I was too young to realize that they were sexual fantasies, I just enjoyed the tingly feelings I got from them) had to do with guys being tied up, that I bought them on the slave market and made them do chores, punished them for misbehaviour, etc.

The same with leather and corsets, as a child I loved smelling the leather sofa in my dad's study, I just found it was an exciting smell, and I loved pirate movies, the wenches were always good at fencing, they wore thigh high boots and corsets, I loved that look.

Somehow it all evolved from there, took me a few years to make sense of it and spent my teenage days rather confused because I thought something was "wrong" with me.

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 10:53:57 AM   
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I hope I am not intruding, since this question was asked of the Dommes here.

In getting to know a number of dominant women over the years, I've also asked this same question, and heard some similar replies.
I definitely don't see it as “wank” material, and to me it raises the interesting question about how much is innate (genetic), and what part is acquired/behavioral.

The response I've heard many times is that early in life something “clicked” in these women when they they read or saw (in popular culture) men somehow restrained or controlled.
From there, the fantasies became more refined (or perhaps structured) as the woman matured and became more aware of her own sexual desires.

I remember from my own childhood a neighbor girl who would babysit me, and I saw on several occasions where she tied up a girlfriend who came over to visit (I was between age 5 and 6, and she was about 13 or so). Looking at the same memories as an adult, it seems to me that she was excited by what she did, although I can't say for certain that she was aroused. This same babysitter would put me in girls clothes to “make” me behave (and she did the same to her younger brother).

I personally think the desire is innate, but may require some sort of catalyst as it were, to bring to level of conscious awareness.

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 1:05:16 PM   
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Ms. Venatrix...I know you are in a funk and very cynical.  I think the thread is very interesting.  Yes most of the threads directed at femdoms come from submissive men and yes, I am sure some of that is for "wankable material".  However, there are also men out there that want to learn and understand.  I think it is interesting to note how everyone came to the conclusion they did and when.  For women, it is more about control, or that is what it seems like here.  The kink thing did not really kick in until later...but the control thing and in some cases total control, came right up front.  I find that neat.  Just me 2 cents worth.

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 1:30:49 PM   
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This subject is fascinating to me on a number of levels.  I always want to know what make dominants ticks.  I never really stop wondering.  So, their nascent feelings are really interesting on that score alone.

As for 'wank material'?  Well, this subject is all about past experiences and fantasies that involve, at times, excitement.  Personally, I think if we all go off and have a hearty fiddle or tug after reading it, so much the better.  A ouanque a day keeps the doctor away, as I always say. 

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 1:36:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: seekstofasn8adom

How did  it occur and at what age were you when you realised you were a dominant lady please?Me personally i was 17 and i looked at some fetish books when i went into a shop.Well fem dom books actually and i've been hooked ever since,and a very submissive male from that day til now.But how about you what got you hooked into the fetish scene?


I've been dominant since childhood and my first D/s relationship started, long before I knew special words for it, in 2nd grade and lasted a decade until we then parted ways.  During that time I had several other D/s and BDSM relationships at ages well below the UM line of this forum... some before I knew the special names for it, some after and all starting well before I had sex (my PE/BDSM life is not inherently sexual, though it sometimes mixes with it).  That first relationship just cliqued organically, and I knew I was dominant by age 9 or 10 and pursued relationships where I was in charge... I'm still today learning new the Special Words for what are to me everyday things... plus constantly finding out that others find kinky what are just vanilla fun or sex. 

Also, too, being amazed at how filthy PE/BDSMers find just normal everyday relationships and actions.

There wasn't anything that got me "hooked on the fetish scene"... When it came to kinks I just did what came naturally or interested me when others wanted to try and incorporated those things into my life if I liked them.  As the years went by I found out that people had Special Words for and Special Places to do those things and Special Magazines to read about it and...

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 4:38:28 PM   
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I'm a late bloomer. I just figured it out a couple of years ago. I grew up in a pretty passive household and spent a lot of years being pretty frustrated.  I thought I was just supposed to be a nice, sweet girl and eventually good things would happen to me, like Cinderella.  I figured it out with a lot of soul searching, pissing people off (my attempts at being submissive didn't go too well) and some good people along the way who helped steer me in the right direction. 

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/14/2009 4:48:38 PM   
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quote:

For women, it is more about control, or that is what it seems like here.  The kink thing did not really kick in until later...but the control thing and in some cases total control, came right up front.


Control is a kink too you know  I know more than a few people of all D/s orientations would would describe that as their primary and foremost kink.

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/17/2009 6:16:19 PM   
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This was an interesting read.

Thank you for your replies. ^^

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/17/2009 7:06:59 PM   
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When I realized that "The Story of O" was badly written and should be redone as the "The Story of Y".
 
 



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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/18/2009 5:22:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Maybe the fact that my first sexual fantasies (only I was too young to realize that they were sexual fantasies, I just enjoyed the tingly feelings I got from them) had to do with guys being tied up, that I bought them on the slave market and made them do chores, punished them for misbehaviour, etc.

The same with leather and corsets, as a child I loved smelling the leather sofa in my dad's study, I just found it was an exciting smell, and I loved pirate movies, the wenches were always good at fencing, they wore thigh high boots and corsets, I loved that look.

Somehow it all evolved from there, took me a few years to make sense of it and spent my teenage days rather confused because I thought something was "wrong" with me.

I wish I had known Lady Constanze when I was a kid!  Even though she lives 3000 miles away, and she wasn't born yet...minor details.

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/18/2009 5:24:49 AM   
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not long ago....when a femdom friend of mine's slave boy licked and kissed my boots. I was like "hey i could get used to this..." then that screaming evil bitch goddess let loose......... and now I know what was missing :D

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/21/2009 5:31:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slavekal
I wish I had known Lady Constanze when I was a kid!  Even though she lives 3000 miles away, and she wasn't born yet...minor details.


I don't know, there were a couple of guys who liked to play rough and I always was covered in scrabs as I was quite physical (climbing trees, tying boys to trees, wrestling....) but I think some quite liked to lose (in hindsight). I seriously wish I had understood earlier, a lot of the confusion of my adolescence might not have happened.

I still think the biggest problem most sadist have is your upbringing, especially as a female you get taught that you should be the nice one, so it does take time to come to terms with what you want to do, what draws you but what you get told is "wrong". To be perfectly honest, I struggled with that for a long time, wondering if a guy will only let me do that because he likes me and wants to indulge me, but that it is essentially wrong and I'm abusing him because he has such strong feelings for me. A pro domme cured me from my guilt by saying "They pay me for that, how much more consent can you give?" That was when the CLICK in my head happened. Thinking back, I possibly lured a few ex boyfriends over to the "dark side" by mixing pleasure and pain.


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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/21/2009 5:36:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

When I realized that "The Story of O" was badly written and should be redone as the "The Story of Y".
 
 




I loved "The Story of O" for the politeness and the style, there was nothing crude about it, no screaming and screetching.... But I was wondering why there wasn't something like that for men, the idea that women were slaves and submitted to all that seemed odd. I caught myself thinking a few times "I wonder how he'd sleep tied up...."

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RE: When did you realise that you were dominant - 7/21/2009 6:48:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
That was when the CLICK in my head happened.


(Y'all are just going to have to deal with my lack of spell checker on this one.)

I'm going to assume this thread is about that "Click" moment.  I've had a lot of Clicks in my life, but coming into my Dominance has been more like turning up the dimmer switch...very slowly... a little at a time.

From the cradle, I was surrounded by 'Domineering' women.  Not realy the same, but still, the consept of the strong female head of household was all that I ever knew.  My paternal grandmother divorced during the great depression and raised two sons and cared for her 'invalid brother'.  My maternal grandfather was a hopeless drunk so it fell to my grandmother to run the farm and raise seven children and then care for most of her flock of grandchildren, all with an iron hand.  My father was weak and hen pecked, therefore he worked unbelieveable long hours and I rarely ever saw him.  My mother beat me and my older brother and sister in a manner closer to child abuse than disapline. So female leadership and corperal punishment were all I ever knew. 

From the earliest childhood, going to church and interacting with other children, I knew I was 'different' from the other girls.  I was never 'girly'.  I always prefered to hang with the boys.  Most people just called me a 'Tom boy'.  I also wondered from that time on, why Bible Stories never had any strong women.  The females were always cowtowing to the men.  That sucked.  And fairy tales were the same way.  Why were all the girls always just looking for that wedding day.  Maybe that's why I always prefered Aesop's fables and Kipling.  The animals were not that gender specific.

Around my elementary school age, my favorite female cousin and I came up with the 'cruelty game'.  She and I used to think up the most horrid ways to torture people.  We always knew that our parents would hate this game and so we never told anyone about it.  As mentioned by others, girls aren't supposed to think of such things.

One of my first memories of knowing that I was really turned on by pain was the movie Syble back in the 70's.  The scene of her being tied by the ankles, suspended upside down and tortured stuck with me in a manner that I knew was 'not right'.  Throughout the years I often fantasized about being both upside down and the one hauling someone up and administering the torture.  (No, I'm not into kids, girls or causing injury.... Like so many others, that was simply the first image availble to latch onto.)

School was always difficult for me, socially speaking.  I didn't fit in.  I was 'to smart' for the boys and not 'girly' enough for the females.  I only found solance in being the only girl in the newly formed Science Fiction club.  I was the only girl that I ever knew who actually played Dungeons and Dragons with books and dice during the 70's.  It was my first experiance in the whole idea that females were just as strong and capable as males, even if it was all on paper.

When I got to college, I had this great epiphony... I called it the Power of the Pussy.  I discovered that men would do ANYTHING if they thought they might have a chance at sex.  This was when I first started exerting control over men and loving it!  I actually had multiple young men following me around and I actually assigned them numbers.  Each was told that they would only receive attention if the 'higher ranked' men were not around.  I also started the "Gootchie" game that involved walking up to a strange man, smilling directly in his face and squeezing his crotch, hard, just to watch the young man's eyes bulge and hear that gasp.  They frelling loved it all and I got off on making them jump through hoops.

Like most, I spent many years trying to 'fit the mold' that society forced upon me.  I had more relationships than I can count.  Most ended, to some extent, because my male partner wouldn't allow me to lead.  Being a female control freak is very difficult for most men to handle.  I had difficult time just finding a partner who would accept that aspect of my nature, therefore, most of the other kinks never had the time to develop.

In the mid to late 80's, after my younger son was born, I got a computer and started on the internet.  This was before there were forums.  I was on mIRC.  I joined channels like CUSeeMeKinky and CUSeeMeWild.  This was very fun.  This was when I learned that men are basically horn dogs who will do ANYTHING for a little female attention... no matter what I asked them to do.  That's when my current mentor Odie asked me to join a BDSM channel and the true kink was discovered.

As my son grew and I was working on getting my business up and running, trying to start up a 2nd business (which failed), I found myself going deeply back into the closet.  I had to play 'Soccer' Mom, Business Woman and Community Activist for many more years.  That left me no time or energy for socially unexceptable activities.  Basically, if anyone found out what I was into, my primary business would tank and I'd be drummed out of the Field Trip Mom Society.  All my 'naughty dilly dallying' had to go 'under cover' as occational hook ups at my SciFi conventions.  Like Vegas, what happens at the con, stays at the con.

When my son grew up and started being less 'under foot', going out with his own friends, Odie talked me into joining CM where my kink found a happy home and a manner to express itself descretely.  When West joined my family circle, he was introduced as a "Net Buddy" who went to the conventions and did other things with us.  He was just one more in a long line of male friends attached to the family and no one really thought anything about it.  He was my first long term sub/extra in about 15 years.

So "When did I know?"    I don't know.  It was just sort of always there... lurking.  West was the first to really, honestly allow me to explore all avenues instead of just hit or miss experimentation with a lot of  'one night stands'.  One more reason it was so hard for me to let go.

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