Solinear
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There was one article that Real0ne linked that I almost had to laugh at... they repeatedly talk about 1979 to 1995 and reference 'decades', while there is only 'decade' in bettween those two dates. Then they point out about how the study that was done in the 80s was flawed because it didn't include dates after that and it was flawed in it's implementation (I can't disagree or agree), while flawing their own study in an almost worse way, using a smaller sample.
There were some gems if you knew how to read through their stupidity (sun's magnetic activity causes increased brightness... made me laugh my ass off, since significant magnetic activity causes the brightness to actually lower, but infrared - that high heat stuff - to increase), but the fact that their entire study is based off of a political agenda means that they are going in the wrong direction. If they wanted to prove their hypothesis (which should have been easy, considering the data available), they would have pulled from a *larger* time sample.
The most interesting thing here is that nobody is talking about ocean temperatures and anyone who knows anything about thermodynamics knows that a solid holds more energy (read: heat) than a liquid and a liquid holds WAY more energy than a gas. If you want it in more simple terms, it takes a FUCKLOAD more energy to increase the temperature of the oceans by 1 degree than it would take to increase the temperature of all the atmosphere by that same amount - I could hunt down the numbers, but it's not all that important. If they wanted to do a more thorough study, they would have used data such as that located at:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2006/ann/us-summary.html
I don't fully 100% think that global warming is caused by CO2 going into the air.... I think that it's a combination of sunspot activity (increased IR output) and our own stupidity. I do think that CO2 increasing in the air is bad though.
I would much rather talk about much more relevant things that humans do to this planet... red tides and the such will clear up the CO2 if it gets too rough and let's be real... we're stupid and will run out of hydrocarbons (coal, oil) before too long.
What concerns me? Reduction of ground water... most areas of the world do not engage in water conservation and are draining their lakes, rivers and ground water at rediculous rates, ruining the natural ecosystem. Just look at the Caspian Sea in Russia - it is about 20% of it's original size because it has been drained to a rediculous level. The rampant destruction of the ocean ecosystems so that we can have cheap fish. The 'floating fish factories' that float through the oceans pulling in hundreds of tons worth of fish every day, depleting an area completely of fish. They pay lip service to conservation, but really they just avoid catching what they aren't after because they really just don't *want* it. If they can catch 500 tons of just Salmon, they can spend much less time worrying about the other fish that they may have accidentally caught.
Global warming isn't going to kill us, our own painful level of stupidity is going to make the majority of the planet unusable and we won't have the energy source to fix it by that time.
BTW, I love it when someone says that $X are lost, or Y jobs... that money went somewhere and someone got paid, it just wasn't the same people as were getting paid in the scenario that they were demonstrating.
< Message edited by Solinear -- 1/29/2007 1:39:36 AM >
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