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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 4:36:56 PM   
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In a lot of respects I think I could say..."no sexuality exchange, no domination in a fully functional relationship sense possible". My sexuality is my submission.

My sexuality is where I can be "owned"...and I cant have more than one buyer or I get confused....(just thinking about how all this applies to monogamy for a sec).

Like that experience I described in my first post that happened when I was out with Master the other night really freaked me out...like we were in a social place..it wasn't sexual from my point of view....but it felt sexual and I felt intruded upon sexually...so I can just imagine if it was actually sexual what it would be doing to my insides.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 4:50:04 PM   
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With some people, I can just fuck and it's fun. With other people, sex with them "unzips" me, spriritually. It doesn't happen every time with these people, but the chances of that happening and sending me to another place are much higher.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 4:55:25 PM   
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LOL and now you know why i always had a 3 foot of space rule with men.  i do know what you mean.  i've had guys come near and i literally cringe.  Hell, back when i was first with Master - i was dancing on the floor (no one else dancing) slightly intoxicated and a man put his arm around me.  Something about him literally made me freak.  Luckily my natural instinct kicked in and i backed away chanting "no".  i think if he had grabbed onto me, i'd of screamed.  Abit extreme of what you are talking about, but i do understand. 

i've had other less extreme situations where i'm like "whoaaaaaaa get away" but placing a specific memory isnt currently working.  i think its more or less sensing something in them that is just wrong.  i always summed it up to others making subtle advances...... which is always repulsive and inappropriate (when its inappropriate).  ya know?


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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 5:10:23 PM   
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With some people, I can just fuck and it's fun.


Would you put that in the category of masterbation? Like when I masterbate it has nowhere near the energy of actually having a sexual interaction with someone else but it works at the time, releases some energy etc...

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 6:16:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slavejali

In a lot of respects I think I could say..."no sexuality exchange, no domination in a fully functional relationship sense possible". My sexuality is my submission.

My sexuality is where I can be "owned"...and I cant have more than one buyer or I get confused....(just thinking about how all this applies to monogamy for a sec).


Thank you for the thread jali and the above.    I can definitely relate.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 6:49:03 PM   
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My pleasure BRNaughtAngel :) I'm fascinated with the power of sexuality....and everything it entails...

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 6:52:57 PM   
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My pleasure BRNaughtAngel :) I'm fascinated with the power of sexuality....and everything it entails...


I have written about sex and my submission in my journals that are for my Master to read.  After reading this thread and your contributions to it, I may have to revisit that topic.  He's used to me rambling about stuff.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 7:07:46 PM   
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It's difficult for me to describe.  Sex, in my experience, is more physical than emotional, yet I need to feel some connection.  I like sex a lot but I equate the 'glow' after as a hormonal/endorphin filled high rather than anything spiritual.  I am grateful to a man who can fulfill me sexually, but I don't fall in love with him.  I like kissing him good night and driving home to be alone in my own bed.   

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 7:27:55 PM   
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and thinking about prostitutes that have sex with lots of partners how do you experience sex?

When I whored, it was what it was.  You know how people choose a job because they feel it's their calling?

I think that's what whoring is to me- a calling.  Whoring is a sacred act for me and it calls to me and brings me closer to myself to provide that service to others.  IMO the world would be a much better place if it cultivated and held whores in high esteem for the services they can provide to people. 

Sexual energy IS my wellspring.  Whether it's fucking for fun, fucking for money, fucking for love, or fucking for sport- it's myself being with myself.

We experience it the same...and yet differently.  I am the vessel for the energy, the energy does not own me.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 7:33:49 PM   
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I think that's what whoring is to me- a calling.  Whoring is a sacred act for me and it calls to me and brings me closer to myself to provide that service to others. 


I have a friend like that, well probably not so much these days, she used to fuck guys and said it was like a healing thing for "them". She was providing a service, thats how she experienced her sexual energy...

I can relate to that..kinda..but not with multiple partners...I just might be too sensitive or something.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 7:44:00 PM   
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jali,

your experiencing the best of the emotional aspects of sex, either within or without the D/s path. Your body is the door to your mind, literally.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/4/2007 8:19:20 PM   
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I can relate to that..kinda..but not with multiple partners...I just might be too sensitive or something.

I wouldn't suggest it to be "too sensitive."  Simply a different way of processing.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/5/2007 7:38:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slavejali

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

With some people, I can just fuck and it's fun.


Would you put that in the category of masterbation? Like when I masterbate it has nowhere near the energy of actually having a sexual interaction with someone else but it works at the time, releases some energy etc...


Pretty close to it. But, even without the spirituality, there is always an energy exchange...exchanging with another person (sex) is more comforting to me than exchanging with Mother Earth or the Universe (masturbation). It's more concrete. On the flip side, I can deliberately have energy-only orgasms without a physical partner, which I do for ritual if I feel so lead. Those are different than physical masturbation.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/5/2007 7:45:31 AM   
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I think that's what whoring is to me- a calling.  Whoring is a sacred act for me and it calls to me and brings me closer to myself to provide that service to others. 


I have a friend like that, well probably not so much these days, she used to fuck guys and said it was like a healing thing for "them". She was providing a service, thats how she experienced her sexual energy...

I can relate to that..kinda..but not with multiple partners...I just might be too sensitive or something.


I've done this, deliberately, with a lover and friend I currently have. He felt betrayed in a lot of areas by his ex-wife and simply needed someone to say "Yes" whenever he asked, even if that's in the middle of the night coming out of a deep sleep. Fortunately, this is really easy to do since I'm attracted to him and I find he's an excellent lover (his ex-wife was just nuts!). In fact, he's the one I connect spiritually with and my reactions to him and what he does has gone a long way to heal him, not to mention how he faciliates the spiritual in me. He's helped heal me in many ways, as well. Supporting one another in emotional as well as physical ways was one of things that we deliberately decided to so when we started the relationship. I hope we're friends (and lovers!) for a long time.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/5/2007 7:47:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
Whoring is a sacred act for me.....


You might be interested in watching a documentary called "Sacred Prostitute". I liked it, although I wish it had gone a little bit more in depth. It was still good, though.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/5/2007 8:08:33 AM   
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I have been avoiding this thread since I first saw it pop up.

This is a subject almost too close to my heart right now. I haven't had sex for quite a long time now, sorry I don't remember the date but suffice to say triple digit number of days. I could, anytime I want. But there came a time that it just hurt too much, not physically but at a much deeper level.

I saw a glimmer of something, what it could be, was tantilized and seduced by it. Then it just disappeared. Leaving behind the hunger but lacking the partner necessary. Oh I know there are alot of people that would call me crazy but after knowing what it could be I just cannot force myself to go back to what was before. That's where the hurt comes in, to even try and get to that point with someone I don't have that connection with causes this horrible, agonizing feeling almost like a silent scream or moan of "noooooooo". I physically want to yank myself away from them.

It's just easier to not even try and go there right now.


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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/5/2007 8:19:48 AM   
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Like it doesnt actually have to be about sex..but its about sexual energy..or something....anyways...how do you experience sexuality with partners?


I've had that sort of energy with a two partners.  It's not the norm for me.  But the two I've felt it with, if I saw them this moment, I know it would be as strong as it was the first time.  I don't know what that means, if it's a connection or just some sort of animal thing.


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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/5/2007 8:48:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
I saw a glimmer of something, what it could be, was tantilized and seduced by it. Then it just disappeared. Leaving behind the hunger but lacking the partner necessary.


I get this, but not with sex. Since a partner of mine stepped away, I simply haven't had the will to play much. I have...about half a dozen times...in the last year. This is from someone who used to play on average of twice a week. It's not the same any more...even with my slave girl.

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/5/2007 8:58:25 AM   
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Sex is beautiful, energizing, and fulfilling.  Like you, my sex is part of my submission.  I feel closer to a man when he has spent time between my legs.  I feel more love and devotion to a man I am bedding than I do with my own family.

Sex is a hard limit for me unless I am committed to someone.  I have "played" somewhat casually, but sex is a hard limit.  I just don't want to feel that intense connection with a friend..

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RE: Sex and Stuff... - 2/5/2007 9:11:21 AM   
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I have to disagree.  I have seen a few married types who seem happier in an affair but that seem fleeting to me.  I do have several married, nilla friends who have been married for 15/40 yrs and when I see them they are always holding hands, or catching glances across the room.
It really is beautiful to watch.
Maybe it is the sex which binds people.  Those that step back from it, either from resentment or weariness, lose that connection.
This could be why so many married guys who approach me tell me their wives don't like sex.  By that point they probably have lost the connection.  Very sad.
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Usually that couple that is holding hands and laughing are married. To other people.
 
I don't know if it is their parental models or what, but it seems they are happiest having an affair.


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