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LadyAngelika -> What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/9/2005 1:26:18 PM)

I only recently started coming around to the Ask a Sub/Slave portion of the board and I have to say I’m a little surprised by how many posts there are from subs/slaves talking about (potentially) abusive Dominants. Maybe I’m more perturbed then surprised.

I think most people on this site realises that Domination and abuse are not synonymous. There seems to be a lot of confusion nonetheless. I'm not saying we all have to agree on everything, but I'm sure there are some common traits.

I guess my question for submissives/slaves is what are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me?

I know what I would answer, but I want to see what you will all come up with.

- LA




craftywulf -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/9/2005 1:42:01 PM)

Well being new to this sight and still learning i would think a good dom or domina would know the limits of their slave and not try to harm them but be firm just the same.I know as a submissive i would want to please my domina and i would go out of my way to do this but i wouldent want the relationship to be so bad that we both wouldent enjoy it.Hmmmmmmmmmmjust my thoughts on this




Mercnbeth -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/9/2005 2:22:23 PM)

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what are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me?


Self-assured. He doesn't allow someone else, or their opinion of Him to affect His sense of self-worth.

Protects and controls for the best interest of the whole, not out of fear of losing any of the pieces that make up that whole.

Responsible enough to know where the line is between use and abuse of mind altering substances. this is not limited to the substances folks imbibe but also includes the mind altering substances the brain produces as well.

In control of His emotions.

Accepts total responsibility for every word, action, reaction, choice, behavior, decision that He makes.

Honors the contracts that He makes with those that serve Him.....whether it is on paper, verbal, handshake, proveable in a court of law, doesn't matter---it is His integrity that counts.

Honest--with Himself and others.

an infectuous laugh, a keen sense of humor, a lust for adventure and a creative mind open to endless possibilities is icing on the cake, well, at least it is for this slave.




ARoseAndAnEye -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/9/2005 2:38:53 PM)

CONFIDENCE.

Shear and utter CONFIDENCE.

Had to meet someone at a local establishment once..... person we were meeting did not know what we looked like. He knew who we were by my Master's stance. He mentioned that He (my Master) walked into the room as though he commanded it (not to be confused with arrogance.....).

~ anna




nella -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/9/2005 2:40:57 PM)

i would say he or she would be:

Honest
Self Asured
Good at Comunication.
Inteligent
Strict but also have a tender side
Have a good sense of humor.




fencerpet19 -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/9/2005 3:11:29 PM)

I think mercnbeth hit it pretty squarely on the nose. I'd add trustworthyness. Each person has different tastes in what they want out of a relationship, so I think that a good Dom/me is someone YOU can trust. And that differs from person to person.

Definitely humor!! Gotta make me laugh! [:D]

Honesty and respect are big ones, and empathy. I think a good Dom/me can put themselves in the shoes of their submissive and understand what makes them tick.
~FP




harmony3709 -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/9/2005 7:25:02 PM)

In addition to the characteristics already listed, I would add several things that I perceive as being a good Dominant, male or female.

Self confidence:

1. The self confidence to admit when you don't know something or have made a mistake.

2. Enough self confidence to not have to one-up other Doms or tell me I'm not a true/real submissive or submissive enough or vanilla to make yourself feel more "domly".

Chivalry. A quality I highly admire and wish I saw more often and has nothing to do with the fact that I am a feminist, nor should it to him.

Manners. (nuff said)

Intelligence.

Honor.

Patience.

Ability to communicate. Submissives are not mind readers and I, for one, at least need to occasionally know if I'm doing something right and/or get some feedback.

The ability to handle emotions, mine and theirs.

Basically, be of good character!

Course............now is the hard part............convincing myself this is not just a fantasy Dom!!

harmony




LadyAngelika -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 4:29:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: harmony3709
Course............now is the hard part............convincing myself this is not just a fantasy Dom!!


I don't think this is a fantasy at all. It think these are basic expectations and you shouldn't compromise your standards.
_________

Based on your responses to date, a good Dom/me is one who:

is self-assured
is responsible
is self-control
is honest
is intelligent
is empathic
is trustworthy
is patient
is adventurous
is creative
is open-minded
is emotionally stable
is self-confident
is a good communicator
has good manners
has a sense of honour
has good sense of humour
knows and respects the limits of their slave
protects and controls
honours the contracts that s/he makes
can be strict but have a tender side
can admit to not knowing everything
can admit to having made a mistake
can be chivalrous (what is the Domme equivalent here?)
doesn’t need to Top everyone to feel more dominant

So far, I think this is a pretty good set of criteria and I also think that it’s very realistic.

Anything else to be added?

- LA





Tangwystal -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 4:41:09 AM)

LOL.. I think that women can be chivalrous too... it's not gender exclusive

I'd add intuitive

especially with a new submissive... one who doesn't know their own limits yet




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 4:42:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
I guess my question for submissives/slaves is what are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me?

The same as signs/traits of any good person.




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 4:44:35 AM)

Can I just point out that on all of these lists of traits that they also fit every single good slave and vanilla person I know as well?

Let's also not make the mistake of making doms omnipotent, I think they can be less than perfectly confident in some situations, they don't have to always have all the answers and sometimes they can have weak spots. I don't think that makes them less competent as a dominant.




LadyAngelika -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 5:35:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
I guess my question for submissives/slaves is what are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me?

The same as signs/traits of any good person.


Damn! You stole my conclusion ;)

- LA




sissymaidlola -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 8:17:32 AM)


OK, sissy is up for this. When he first decided to post a response here, he thought he would come up with just half-a-dozen character qualities like most of the other people that had already posted here (as of last night). When he started to make a list of the most obvious criteria off the top of his head he had already exceeded ten ... so he couldn't even call his post his top ten most important character traits (which is just as well, because everyone would have accused him of having stolen his list from Letterman!). Thinking a little harder about the OP's question added even more criteria. Some of the qualities he initially listed, such as chivalry (yes, even Women can be chivalrous, that is NOT a male-only characteristic!) seemed too all-embracing or abstract, so sissy tried to substitute the actual qualities that most people agree would constitute chivalry for that term.

This added even more character traits to the list. Some of the qualities could be seen as being somewhat overlapping ... for instance, one can't have integrity, consistency and adept and open communication without honesty, so should honesty be listed in its own right ? Or, alternatively, since it is at the heart of the other related traits, should honesty be listed and not the other three qualities ? In the end, sissy simply decided to add some qualifying definitions to his list of character traits to better bring out what facets they individually bring to the mix, and some traits such as generosity and curiosity definitely needed further definition anyway. sissy Is not seeking a Domina partner that is a nosey-parker !

In the end the list reached twenty criteria, which is a nice round number, so sissy stopped at this juncture. The list is meant to be in descending order of importance (for sissy personally ... attach your own relative importance to the listed items) and was originally numbered. But quite frankly, many of the qualities are equally important, and sissy found himself continually tweaking the order ... is honesty more important than integrity or vice versa ? So, at the last minute, the numbering was removed as well.

A couple of final thoughts. If sissy identified as Dom (behind all his frills and curtsies he is an alpha male after all) the list would probably be exactly the same. So he is not so sure that this question really has anything to do with Dom/mes versus subs and slaves. Furthermore, if sissy (as his alpha male alter ego) was out on a vanilla date with a woman, and she asked the same question (well, not the same question exactly, because she is vanilla and Dom/mes wouldn't come into it, the question now being simply, "What kind of person(s) do you seek out in life to spend your intimate time with ?") the list would also be pretty much the same, so sissy isn't so certain that this is even a BDSM only related question. In short, sissy's answer remains the same whether the question is asked from a vanilla or BDSM perspective, or within the latter context, from the Dominant / Sadist or submissive / masochist perspective. Strength of character is strength of character is strength of character ...


a great sense of humor and wit - The ability to make me laugh and also to appreciate my sense of humor is imperative.

self-deprecation - Still on humor, the ability to laugh at themselves and not take themselves too seriously. Too many Dom/mes mistakenly think that arrogance and posturing are both attractive and that they successfully disguise Their obvious failings in other areas.

intelligence - Goes without saying.

adept and open communication - Say what you mean, mean what you say, never hold back.

honesty - Always to have respect for the truth and (also important) contempt for deceit.

integrity - Never to sell out on core values and beliefs.

consistency - Logical and ethical consistency; everything that sloppy thinking and hypocrisy is not!

trustworthiness - Perhaps the most critical quality required for participation in a D/s lifestyle. A submissive / slave must be able to have absolute trust in the Dom/me to whom they give their power.

discretion - The better part of valor (= bravery = chivalry). Discretion is also an imperative in BDSM.

loyalty and fidelity - A feeling of allegiance, devoted attachment and affection; the ability to always stand by and protect and defend Their pet / property.

courage - The ability to stand up for what is right in the face of stiff opposition (rather than the ability to be physically brave in the face of all kinds of danger and adversity ... although that would be good, too).

charm, grace, good manners - Needs no explaining. Another side of chivalry.

self-confidence, poise and aplomb - A belief in one's own abilities and actions, and a disposition to match.

curiosity - A desire to embrace and appreciate the wonders of life; NOT nosiness!

tolerance and open-mindedness - Always receptive to the ideas of others; never to pre-judge others.

compassion and empathy - To feel and understand my pain and to share and celebrate my bliss.

generosity - Magnanimity and nobility of thought; NOT a constant source of gifts and baubles.

honor - To be held in high esteem by others (not just by me).

tenacity - Persistence and stick-to-it-ness; NOT stubborness.

patience - The ability to endure hardship, difficulty, or inconvenience without complaint, with an emphasis on calmness, self-control, and the willingness or ability to tolerate delay. Courage and tenacity and patience may be three facets of a more fundamental quality that sissy can't quite put his finger on ! Tolerance and patience are also closely related.


[Edited update] Having read Mercnbeth's excellent post on the Protagonistlily's corresponding thread WRT submissive / slave traits, and also thought about this some more with sissy's Dom hat on <giggles>, sissy needs to amend this post. Although all of the character traits listed above are important to both Dom/mes AND subs / slaves, clearly their priority ordering would be different in each case. Plus there are seven obvious traits missing from the current list that are imperatives for any "good sub traits" list (and arguably some of the multi-term traits could be further split up, while there are yet other clearly desirable submissive traits that are also, arguably, still missing):

obeisance, respect, deference and courtesy

humility and modesty

obedience and compliance

devotion, adoration and worship

flexibility and adaptability

interpersonal sensitivity

acceptance of dependence


The fact that sissy did not emphasize the above traits while compiling his initial list is indicative that, as a submissive male, he doesn't rate these qualities highly in a Domina, yet he is fully aware of their importance in his own nature as a submissive. The hard thing here is working out which seven Dom/me qualities need to be shed from the above list to make room for these submissive / slave qualities in order to keep the list capped at twenty criteria. But here goes ... they would have to be:

courage

honor

self-confidence, poise and aplomb

compassion and empathy

generosity

Hmmm, that last one was difficult. Although most Dom/mes would not rate magnanimity (which was the primary meaning that got it onto sissy's Dom/me list) that highly in a submissive or slave, it would almost definitely make Their list in its alternative meaning of willing giver.

Now sissy is really stymied. He can't think of anything else to shed. If sissy was going to have a submissive or slave, he would want her to have a great sense of humor and also to be intelligent. Being a submissive does not mean being a dullard! OTOH, those are both traits that many Dom/mes consider as making a submissive or slave a disrespectful smart ass or even a SAM. They are the two traits that continually get sissy into trouble as a submissive. So it looks like they will have to be the one's to go ... shame ... :(

WRT the reordering of priorities between the "good Dom/me" and "good submissive / slave" criteria, patience, tenacity and curiosity (= a willingness to learn and try new things) would probably all appear higher on the latter list than on the former one.

WRT a vanilla versus BDSM list, the three qualities trustworthiness, discretion and loyalty should probably appear right at the top of any BDSM list (they are core to the whole essence of BDSM). The fact that sissy listed these traits lower down the list really only indicates that he had already "vanillarized" the list in his mind (i.e., most of us have to think in terms of our vanilla life in preference to our darker BDSM desires and fantasies).


Respectfrilly Yours,

sissy maid lola


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happypervert -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 9:33:57 AM)

quote:

Anything else to be added?

Don't forget the red cape with the big "S" on it




MsSilvie -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 10:18:11 AM)

Quite honestly, other than maybe 2 mentions of "control" with respect to others, what everyone is describing are also good traits of a sub/slave. Which reinforces that people need to look at the other PERSON, not the other person's orientation, when looking for a partner.

Edited, because apparently someone moved the keys on the keyboard again




ruffnecksbabygir -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 10:23:06 AM)

harmony
quote:

I am a feminist



a submissive/slave that's a feminist? Is that common?

edited: not in reply to Ms Silvie, it was to harmony (clicked the wrong button)
by the way, happy pervert, i am still laughing at your post!




sissymaidlola -> RE: the red cape with the 'S' on it (3/10/2005 10:38:02 AM)

quote:

Don't forget the red cape with the big "S" on it

Ohh ... and don't forget the utility belt. sissy Simply goes weak at the knees at the thought of the power and control inherent in all the goodies kept inside the utility belt !! [;)]

sissy maid lola


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MsSilvie -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 10:40:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ruffnecksbabygir

harmony
quote:

I am a feminist



a submissive/slave that's a feminist? Is that common?


I don't think it's uncommon. Just out of curiosity, why does that seem strange to you?




ruffnecksbabygir -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 10:45:24 AM)

i probably just have a misconception about feminism....i gave it some thought after i posted that question and realized it's probably not that uncommon after all.




sissymaidlola -> RE: What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me? (3/10/2005 10:48:41 AM)

quote:

Edited, because apparently someone moved the keys on the keyboard again
LMAO ... spoken like a true Domina, Ms Silvie. Actually, NOT ... why on earth are You typing Your own posts, Ma'am ? Didn't You know that the keyboard keys are what Your slave's nose is for ?

Respectfrilly Yours,

sissy maid lola


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