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kate -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:48:54 PM)

as a very big, young female that the reason that i believe there are so many "big" women in BDSM is simply that...we are more open and comfortble with ourselves...bigger women in the vanilla world have a hard time...t is hard to go to class or the store and out to dance clubs and always be thinking about how big you are and what everyone else thinks..... but in the BDSM comunity there is so much more acceptance that one dosen't need to feel so....scared...... i don't mean to offend anyone by what i say but it is what it true for me and i think it might be true for others....in the BDSM comunity it is just more accepted tobe big, or small, or tall or short or what ever you might be......a lot less pressure to fit into the norm..... but that all said i have been trying to loose, but that's just becasue i don't want to end up with a lot of health problems when i'm older *smile*   Kate 5'5 202 Lbs age 21......that's me




lilsubl -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:49:25 PM)

ahhh...thank you for that definition...so we're not actually discussing over weight, but morbid obesity...hmmmm...wondering why so many people use so many euphemisms....

& btw, my post was meant to be sarcsm...




lilsubl -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:50:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: obey1

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ORIGINAL: lilsubl

ok...i just spent the last 6 hours reading everyone of the 315 posts so far on this thread


If you had been walking on a treadmill during that time you would have burned off a whole pound.


oh goody!!!  i am now a pound lighter cause i actually WAS on the treadmill the whole time...HA!!!




dcnovice -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:50:46 PM)

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i just spent the last 6 hours reading everyone of the 315 posts so far on this thread


First reaction: Now, that's masochism.

Second reaction: http://www.collarchat.com/m_819673/tm.htm




hot1 -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:52:24 PM)

well i guess if am told that i am just filling up the boards with bullshit it is time for me to head on out and go to bed.

nite all

beth




lilsubl -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:52:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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i just spent the last 6 hours reading everyone of the 315 posts so far on this thread


First reaction: Now, that's masochism.

Second reaction: http://www.collarchat.com/m_819673/tm.htm


ROFLMFAO




sensualmagirl -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:53:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: obey1

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ORIGINAL: sensualmagirl

Where'd the Guiness go again?


But at least we share that same taste.  Can you bring me a Guiness too please?


Sure, and a home-made Baileys chaser and a toast to.... hmmm... not sure... I'll just say "Prost!" (Ok, so, German toast with Irish beer and home-made baileys made from a recipe I got from an Italian woman... I think we are all PC enough for tonight).

Off to bed with me, as soon as I send BitaTrouble the Baileys recipe [:D]





asubmissiveheart -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:53:42 PM)

Not sure of the others, but I am talking about it because I enjoy this subject and it is certainly true.
:)




lilsubl -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:53:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hot1

well i guess if am told that i am just filling up the boards with bullshit it is time for me to head on out and go to bed.

nite all

beth


oh, hot1, don't leave yet, hon...the party's just starting now that i'm here




dcnovice -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:54:05 PM)

[:)]




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:56:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lilsubl
we're not actually discussing over weight, but morbid obesity...hmmmm...wondering why so many people use so many euphemisms....
Possibly for the same reason you call yourself lilsub...  Everyone uses what they feel comfortable using.   M




asubmissiveheart -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:56:41 PM)

Sleep tight hot1, don't worry this thread will still be going strong tomorrow.
Cheers!
Night night




obey1 -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:58:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: asubmissiveheart

lilsub, I think it is general consensus here that we are talking about overweight women in this lifestyle.
Dominant and submissive women both.  To me, we are not talking about a few pounds or even 10 or 20 pounds.
We are talking about the morbid obese.


Correct.  Let me state again as a personal trainer involved for 18+ years professionally, that the old height-weight charts and now even more recently the BMI index is quickly going out of date.

As we get heavier, we also ge more muscular.  The height-weight charts and BMI indexes do not account for someone who is at the top of the bell curve in musculature.  Muscle is more dense than fat.  On my profile, my picture shows me in competition at 186lbs for 6'2".  But the Army would have told me at that point to lose weight.  I surpassed 185lbs in the summer of my 10th-11th grade year in high school.

We are talking about morbidly obese people who have no scale to measure them except the visual.  In looking at them the eyes relate to the brain that there is a serious problem somewhere regardless of numbers.  We are arguing about posting pictures and not posting pictures, about physical chemistry and the lack of.  I argue about basic mobility.  The large majority of my immediate family has had very serious mobility problems from their obesity.  I saw this at age 14 and started lifting weights and then became a personal trainer.  I am now 37 and still earning money teaching others proper habits.  My brother is on disability at 450lbs, my mother is in the hospital at 308lbs, my grandmother weighs 227, my aunts and uncles are way over their limits, and I had an uncle die at nearly 550lbs.

I think we can set the general limit at 240lbs.  Unless you are a 6'5" male or a dedicated bodybuilder, somewhere near this limit is going to cause you mobility problems such as the very least arthritis, at the worst, a crippling stroke, heart attack, or diabetes....




lilsubl -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/10/2007 11:59:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: asubmissiveheart

Not sure of the others, but I am talking about it because I enjoy this subject and it is certainly true.
:)


it's an interesting subject...just have an issue with euphemisms & denial, but that's just me...i am morbidly obeses but when i tell any one that they always feel the need to argue with me, which is just not helpful, in my book...perhaps the ones who feel an attraction for me at this weight can't deal with the reality that they are attracted to a morbidly obese woman....




asubmissiveheart -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/11/2007 12:00:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: obey1

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ORIGINAL: asubmissiveheart

lilsub, I think it is general consensus here that we are talking about overweight women in this lifestyle.
Dominant and submissive women both.  To me, we are not talking about a few pounds or even 10 or 20 pounds.
We are talking about the morbid obese.


Correct.  Let me state again as a personal trainer involved for 18+ years professionally, that the old height-weight charts and now even more recently the BMI index is quickly going out of date.

As we get heavier, we also ge more muscular.  The height-weight charts and BMI indexes do not account for someone who is at the top of the bell curve in musculature.  Muscle is more dense than fat.  On my profile, my picture shows me in competition at 186lbs for 6'2".  But the Army would have told me at that point to lose weight.  I surpassed 185lbs in the summer of my 10th-11th grade year in high school.

We are talking about morbidly obese people who have no scale to measure them except the visual.  In looking at them the eyes relate to the brain that there is a serious problem somewhere regardless of numbers.  We are arguing about posting pictures and not posting pictures, about physical chemistry and the lack of.  I argue about basic mobility.  The large majority of my immediate family has had very serious mobility problems from their obesity.  I saw this at age 14 and started lifting weights and then became a personal trainer.  I am now 37 and still earning money teaching others proper habits.  My brother is on disability at 450lbs, my mother is in the hospital at 308lbs, my grandmother weighs 227, my aunts and uncles are way over their limits, and I had an uncle die at nearly 550lbs.

I think we can set the general limit at 240lbs.  Unless you are a 6'5" male or a dedicated bodybuilder, somewhere near this limit is going to cause you mobility problems such as the very least arthritis, at the worst, a crippling stroke, heart attack, or diabetes....


Wonderful post obey1 thank you, you should be proud of your accomplishments especially with your family history.
I guess they were not willing to listen to your advice.




lilsubl -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/11/2007 12:01:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

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ORIGINAL: lilsubl
we're not actually discussing over weight, but morbid obesity...hmmmm...wondering why so many people use so many euphemisms....
Possibly for the same reason you call yourself lilsub...  Everyone uses what they feel comfortable using.   M


oh, god!!!  that name was given to me by my former Master & i just hate it...but i haven't figured out what else to use yet...perhaps, heftynorwegian???




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/11/2007 12:04:53 AM)

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perhaps, heftynorwegian???
High fives lil for a sense of humor. 
[sm=biggrin.gif] LMAO,   M




adaddysgirl -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/11/2007 12:06:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hot1

well i guess if am told that i am just filling up the boards with bullshit it is time for me to head on out and go to bed.

nite all

beth


Well, tomorrow you may look through this thread and see that with all the 'batting eyes' you did at obey1, he didn't respond to you at all.  He probably thinks you're fat so he can't be bothered....lol.
 
But it's all good, isn't it?  *snickers*
 
DG




lilsubl -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/11/2007 12:08:06 AM)

i was always a thin person who didn't wear sleeveless shirts in high school cause i felt bad about my arms being so skinny...a few years ago, a Dr gave me a medication which she said, "might cause a little weight gain"...i gained over 100 lbs in 10 weeks...imagine every day gaining more than a pound & not eating any more & continuing to try to exercise!!  i have been fighting that ever since...this September, i became very, very serious about it & have since lost 40+ lbs...while i was reading this thread, i was munching on raw veggies...i love my insides & i'm ok with whatever weight i am at the moment, but i hate the lack of mobility & i hate the balance issues & i hate not being able to go dancing...i broke my foot a couple of weeks ago, but still started the belly-dancing class last Tues & i will go this week too, if only to sit out half the class like last week, but i'm doing something about it...i come from a fat family too...it's a struggle i'm determined to win....




asubmissiveheart -> RE: Why so many overweight women in BDSM? in viewing photos it seems like there is a significantly.. (2/11/2007 12:08:15 AM)

Lets start the next thread on why people are so nasty on here, regardless of what the topic is.
:)




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