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AAkasha -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/22/2007 5:47:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Consistent with your posting history, you offer the narrowest of narrow views on this subject. Putting yourself into the mind of a femdom for a moment, what do you think would be some of the enjoyable aspects/erotic aspects/pleasurable aspects of engaging with feminization with a man who already dresses and identifies as a sissy? What are the fun or erotically-charged exchanges like? What would she get out of it? This is not a facetious question. I really want to know what you believe a femdom gets out of this. Akasha

cloudboy -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/22/2007 9:15:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Putting yourself into the mind of a femdom for a moment, what do you think would be some of the enjoyable aspects/erotic aspects/pleasurable aspects of engaging with feminization with a man who already dresses and identifies as a sissy? What are the fun or erotically-charged exchanges like? What would she get out of it? This is not a facetious question. I really want to know what you believe a femdom gets out of this. Its a false premise to think that all "sissies" and CDs are only about crossdressing. Its just one aspect of who they are. So, to answer your question, the first step of any two people (femdom or not) should be establishing if they have an interest in one another instead of doing a kink inventory checklist. Do I write someone off because they're Republican, like a show I hate, or read a book I think is stupid? No. The fact is a femdom could be with a "cd" and never do any dressing if they had a strong enough connection, and as was noted earlier, a femdom turned off by CDing might reconsider her proclivities with the right person. In sum, kinks don't connect people anymore than sex does --- and antecedent to kinks and sex is that elusive personal connection. To find it, its best to have an open mind.

Bella1965 -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/22/2007 10:22:24 PM)
G'morning all: cloudboy, I speak from experience. Whether that's narrow of view in your opinion, is irrelevant. You are incapable of putting yourself in a female dominant's position for the fact of your gender and orientation. You simply lack the perspective. It does not take an open mind to draw conclusions from personal history. It takes observation and being involved with such people in the past. Hence why I avoid men that choose to indulge in those pastimes. As to my posting history, this is not my first profile on CM. I deleted my original in favor of a change of preference for arch typical fem-dom role. So frankly, you're as clueless about that as well as the original topic. Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others... [:D] Bella

SweetDommes -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/22/2007 10:29:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy The fact is a femdom could be with a "cd" and never do any dressing if they had a strong enough connection, and as was noted earlier, a femdom turned off by CDing might reconsider her proclivities with the right person. Prime example of this - our boy crossdresses from time to time. However, as I pointed out in the other thread, I feel there is a serious difference between a crossdresser and a self-identified sissy. This thread is about sissies (recheck the title if you're confused) and I have absolutely no desire to have a relationship with a sissy. The behavior of sissies is, IMO, entirely too annoying and self-centered to be that of a submissive. I haven't noticed such a problem in crossdressers, or in transgendered people - yes, they want to be allowed to be themselves, but they aren't trying to push who/what they are in others' faces. I sometimes feel as though sissies are all trying to shout "look at me, look at me, I'm so cute in my frilly dresses, I must be submissive because I'm wearing a frilly dress, you must like me because I'm in a frilly dress" - whereas my transgendered and crossdressing friends are much more matter of fact and ... I don't know, unobtrusive about it ... more of a "this is who I am, I hope you like it" feeling instead of them trying to shout it out to everyone in earshot. I understand the need to have compatable kinks, and that the kink isn't the person - but when talking with a sissy, it's very difficult to get them to talk about anything else in terms of D/s, service, interests, etc - so it seems very much as though the kink is the person. It gets old ... really old ... really fast.

DiannaVesta -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/23/2007 11:30:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FemmeOwner This is my stand on the subject as well. Now I have met sissies/CDs who were very submissive... but they identify as sissy/CD and expect to be treated (read: catered to) as such. No matter HOW submissive they may be, they're gone if you don't let them cross dress. I hardly call that "depths of submission" would you??? Being dressed as fem is their primary motivation, and their first priority. Frankly, I want and expect my slave's first priority to be ME! Secondly, not to put too fine a point on it, I am looking for a slave whom I am attracted to. You know... physically :) And I like men. Men who look like men. I just don't find CD's attractive, no matter how cutesy their clothes. Third, for me, half the fun of D/s is in the mind fuck, and the sissies/CDs I've met are far too wrapped up in thinking about being submissive through their dress, to even notice the little nuances that give me such pleasure. Now, I don't mean this as any kind of indictment. I have nothing against sissies or CD's, etc. I just don't want to own one, as my personal choice. I believe there are definite distinctions between sissies and crossdressers. Crossdressing more times then often is done without D/s so you have a lot of guys into feminization that are not submissive. They may act more submissive when dressed because they feel that being feminine is more submissive. The mindset for this is very complex if you really dive into it. If you’re not into it then you would never really tap into the dynamic. I’m really not into crossdressers that want to be my soft lesbian lover. Sissies or a girlie man on the other hand is a whole other story. I love humiliation and role-play mixed together as long as it is within female domination. Its true that if you allow them to become self absorbed they will get emerged deeply into their role forgetting about you. Sissies need a lot of strict discipline but once they truly learn who the boss is they make excellent pets, are very attentive and can make you laugh for hours. I love them! Especially the frilly shy types that shake during acts of violation. ::::waving::::: hey girlfriend! Its almost spring. I hope you're ready to go kayaking with me. lol- I know you said you don't but I bet if I got you in the water, you hear the birds and feel the water you'll fall in love with it.

thetammyjo -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/23/2007 2:04:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetDommes quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy The fact is a femdom could be with a "cd" and never do any dressing if they had a strong enough connection, and as was noted earlier, a femdom turned off by CDing might reconsider her proclivities with the right person. Prime example of this - our boy crossdresses from time to time. However, as I pointed out in the other thread, I feel there is a serious difference between a crossdresser and a self-identified sissy. This thread is about sissies (recheck the title if you're confused) and I have absolutely no desire to have a relationship with a sissy. The behavior of sissies is, IMO, entirely too annoying and self-centered to be that of a submissive. I haven't noticed such a problem in crossdressers, or in transgendered people - yes, they want to be allowed to be themselves, but they aren't trying to push who/what they are in others' faces. I sometimes feel as though sissies are all trying to shout "look at me, look at me, I'm so cute in my frilly dresses, I must be submissive because I'm wearing a frilly dress, you must like me because I'm in a frilly dress" - whereas my transgendered and crossdressing friends are much more matter of fact and ... I don't know, unobtrusive about it ... more of a "this is who I am, I hope you like it" feeling instead of them trying to shout it out to everyone in earshot. I understand the need to have compatable kinks, and that the kink isn't the person - but when talking with a sissy, it's very difficult to get them to talk about anything else in terms of D/s, service, interests, etc - so it seems very much as though the kink is the person. It gets old ... really old ... really fast. My impression of the original poster in this thread is exactly this. He constantly refered to his clothes and constantly wanted others to mention his clothes. That isn't attractive any more than a person focusing on anyother one thing.

cloudboy -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/23/2007 4:26:30 PM)
Not to say who is right, but you and Diana Vesta (here on page 9) have opposite views of "sissies." My point is that titles and kink definitions might serve more to feed our prejudices of others as opposed to our understanding of them. For instance, Tammyjo in her post (here on page 9) refers her comments to the OP, and she does not go on to generalize about CDs and Sissies as a whole. I think that kind of approach, one of differentiation and specificity -- is bound to be more accurate and fair in its overall treatment of other people.

SweetDommes -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/23/2007 5:18:10 PM)
I'm using the OP as an example of what I have seen time and time again. Yes, it's a generalization, but it's founded upon many experiences with many people. As to differing opinions, it happens. You can pretty much always find someone who has the exact opposite opinion of someone else.

SweetDommes -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/24/2007 3:29:00 PM)
Oh, another thought - I've never said that all crossdressers or transgendered people are submissive - but have you ever seen a sissy claim to be anything but submissive? As I said, crossdressers seem to have a "here I am, this is me, I hope you like it" attitude, whereas sissies seem to be loudly and adamently proclaiming how submissive they are because they are sissies (not that they are submissive and sissies, but that their being sissies makes them submissive).

downthelake -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/24/2007 5:59:08 PM)
it's not the person behind the kink that they dont like. its just the kink they dont like.

iwearpanties -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/25/2007 8:23:56 AM)
Downthelake i think you may have some thing there .... it maybe they dont like the kink

Lady2LoveForever -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/25/2007 9:02:14 AM)
Hello skirtboy43 I know Dommes who find sissy’s wonderful. I don’t like the look of them but that’s just me, Its up to the individual. I don’t equate sissies with cross dressing though I can see its uses in forced feminisation and humiliation. In answer to the question posted. As a Domme I don’t like the look of a sissy. To me there is nothing female about them. No one since Shirley Temple dresses like a sissy. In my opinion a sissy looks like a gross parody of a woman. But I will cheerfully defend the right of anyone to be a sissy. Just as I am BBW and some people dont like fat birds. I am sure there will be someone who will love and care for you.

LotusSong -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (2/25/2007 1:10:39 PM)
I find I like sissies if they are slowly roasted over a mesquite fire and washed down with a Chardonnay with a creme brulee for dessert. Floss with lace afterward. (and no, they don't taste like chicken)

skirtboy43 -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (3/4/2007 12:43:56 PM)
Darlings, I can't believe this thread is still going. I guess you DO love your little sissy (currently wearing a delightful little beign shirt dress...HOT), ooooh you guys are jusy soooooooooooo sexy! Skirtboy

LadyEllen -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (3/4/2007 1:03:06 PM)
Skirtboy, I am truly jealous. If only I could derive so much pleasure from getting dressed every morning, life would be so much the better. Perhaps there is a lesson for all of us there somewhere. E

LadyPact -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (3/6/2007 11:21:59 AM)
Personally, I just like My boys to be boys. It's just My personal taste in what I find appealing.

LotusSong -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (3/6/2007 12:11:41 PM)
Skirtboy, Aside from crossdressing, do you have any interest in bdsm or D/s?

Mustardseed -> RE: Why don't doms like sissies? (3/6/2007 7:49:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsVeruca Here's my take: I feel it's an insult to women. A man is being asked to dress up as a woman in order to be humilitated and emasculated. That implies that being a woman is somehow a negative thing and lacks power (or even strips one of power). I feel the opposite is true. Women are centers of immense power. So, when I see someone being "punished" or that they want to feel "less" by assuming a feminine role, I get irritated and annoyed. I agree. If a friend of mine were either in a drag show or really into them, I'd tag along. However, there's something about the high-camp poking fun at depictions of women that sets my teeth on edge. I confess to having a few books on sissy maid training and cross-dressing, but that's primarily to teach myself how to walk in high heels. [8\|] This isn't to say that I'd be completely against femming up a sub. If I thought the result would be asthetically pleasing, heck yes. There are some men who look damn good in a frock that fits them properly, and others who can pass. That I could get into. Lifting the skirt of a classic lil' black dress and letting my hands wander? It's an attractive idea. But just in general? No. Most of the guys I see who dress as sissies actually look as though they were forced into the clothes: they don't look comfortable, they don't look happy, they don't look good. They look as though they're waiting for something magical to happen, and thus look a little desperate. meh.

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