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DiurnalVampire -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 5:00:08 PM)
I tend to capitalize Dominant to differentiate it from dominant as a descriptor. When talking about a specific person, or interaction, I might capitalize the word, but I am a terribly lazy and bad typist, so I have few grammar rules that I stick to. DV

MadRabbit -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 5:00:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cjenny Ex There are times that it is actually handy to have an immediate reference to anothers probable status without asking. I must be a weird one then because I have never really needed one, but then again I dont view the dominant/submissive thing as "status" but rather simply identity. I treat all people the same up until the point they make a choice to enter into service to me. Anything else is simply a polite sign of respect that is always appreciated, but never a "birth right" simply because of my self imposed label. (In case you havent noticed the jist of this is one of my highly opinionated pet peeves)

SimplyMichael -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 5:26:57 PM)
I think that anyone who takes themselves seriously always uses the Andalusian system of ranking and capitalization usage.

Missokyst -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 5:46:02 PM)
I use standard rules of english, that is, caps at the beginning of sentences, proper names, ect. UNLESS.. I am too darned lazy to hit the shift key to capitalise something. I see it this way, people have the right to expect a certain level of education in communication. And since I don't relate to people online as anything over and above people "in" my life, they don't need adjustments for their ego from me. Dominants or elder people, ect, whom I meet in public are not getting a capital either as I am relating to them verbally and not in text form. I mean, how do you capitialize speech? Kyst

amiciaN -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 6:11:08 PM)
I'm guilty of doing the cap thing in some areas. I do it in the case of personal pronouns in reference to my Master, and also the titles Master, Mistress, Dominant, Dom, Domme, and Switch. I did a lot of calligraphy in the SCA and got used to capping titles for the scrolls since it is historically/grammatically accurate. Therefore, it has been rather natural to use capilization for those terms, since I respect my Master a great deal more than I ever respected SCA royalty and brass hats (those I respected at all). I certainly do not expect anyone else to capitalize anything regarding my Master except His nick or name. I also first made contact with the BDSM community through IRC so the conventions of lowercase nicks for submissives and slaves, and capped nicks for Dominants and Switches were part of my "initiation" into this world. Those have stuck because they are handy, though I quickly ignored the initial 'demand' that I refer to all capped nicks as Sir or Ma'am. That is something I feel must be earned on both sides, and I now ask for permission from both my Master and the individual before calling anyone Sir or Ma'am, which I have only done twice in almost a year and a half. I tend to use the slash in private emails to NChaka, but after one person replied negatively to a post where I did it here, I've tried to break that habit and just use we, our, etc. I hope that is a compromise people can cope with, without negating the possible value of what I say because I type, "I am His." As always, this is just my experience and the reasoning for my personal habits. Nothing here should be construed to be "the one true way".

xkittenishx -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 6:52:27 PM)
This girl is going to put her two cents in because not only does she talk in third person (a practice that she understands is very irksome.), but she also uses the capitalization rule when speaking to her Master. she and her Master spend a part of our time in this realm and because of that He has instilled small rules, like capping references to Him and speaking in third person as a way for this girl to always have to think about her place when she's interacting with Him - even if it's just over chat and telling Him about her day. This girl is educated, articulate, and can't stand the abuse she sees of grammar rules in much of the conversation that goes on, generally, online. she's got a sneaking suspicion that He enjoys it because He knows it makes her twitch a bit. ;) As to speaking in third person, it's one of the many small ways that she shows her position. she is His property and His pet - His television is known as "the television" - His computer is known as "the computer" and, if He had one, His cat would be known as "the cat" - and so, His girl is known just as that, girl. This girl has always found it a bit annoying herself, in general, but these are the rules He wishes upon her and so she complies, happily. :)

FukinTroll -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 6:54:45 PM)
So when F2F do you yell at the D's?

cjenny -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 6:59:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit quote: ORIGINAL: cjenny Ex There are times that it is actually handy to have an immediate reference to anothers probable status without asking. I must be a weird one then because I have never really needed one, but then again I dont view the dominant/submissive thing as "status" but rather simply identity. I treat all people the same up until the point they make a choice to enter into service to me. Anything else is simply a polite sign of respect that is always appreciated, but never a "birth right" simply because of my self imposed label. (In case you havent noticed the jist of this is one of my highly opinionated pet peeves) Poor word choice then, swap the word status for your choice. For some people their orientation is a huge part of their identity.. I cannot please every angle from which my words are read but I think the concept tends to come through fairly well. Being submissive is not a birthright, it is who I am. Semantics in my view.

lilsubl -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 7:18:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael I think that anyone who takes themselves seriously always uses the Andalusian system of ranking and capitalization usage. i love it when someone uses a term or phrase which causes me to have to look it up...however, in my research of the Andalusian language, i think i may have missed something.....

SimplyMichael -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 7:45:20 PM)
lilsub, that was too subtle sarcasm...I just made that up

FukinTroll -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 7:48:35 PM)
Michael, the Order is watching. Be careful of what you give away here.

AquaticSub -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 7:49:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xkittenishx As to speaking in third person, it's one of the many small ways that she shows her position. she is His property and His pet - His television is known as "the television" - His computer is known as "the computer" and, if He had one, His cat would be known as "the cat" - and so, His girl is known just as that, girl. This girl has always found it a bit annoying herself, in general, but these are the rules He wishes upon her and so she complies, happily. :) Most pets get names. Even on farms the animals that are going to be eaten get names. They are just called Lunch and Dinner.

AquaticSub -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 7:51:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael lilsub, that was too subtle sarcasm...I just made that up Sneaky monkey. Or should I say Monkey? ponders

JasonF -> RE: __________________: annoying? (2/12/2007 7:54:32 PM)
I/i W/would R/rather H/have E/easy T/to R/read T/text T/than T/the C/crazy C/capitalization A/and S/slashes T/thing ducks

junecleaver -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 8:26:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xkittenishx This girl is going to put her two cents in because not only does she talk in third person (a practice that she understands is very irksome.), but she also uses the capitalization rule when speaking to her Master. she and her Master spend a part of our time in this realm and because of that He has instilled small rules, like capping references to Him and speaking in third person as a way for this girl to always have to think about her place when she's interacting with Him - even if it's just over chat and telling Him about her day. This girl is educated, articulate, and can't stand the abuse she sees of grammar rules in much of the conversation that goes on, generally, online. she's got a sneaking suspicion that He enjoys it because He knows it makes her twitch a bit. ;) As to speaking in third person, it's one of the many small ways that she shows her position. she is His property and His pet - His television is known as "the television" - His computer is known as "the computer" and, if He had one, His cat would be known as "the cat" - and so, His girl is known just as that, girl. This girl has always found it a bit annoying herself, in general, but these are the rules He wishes upon her and so she complies, happily. :) I have a question. Do you speak like that in regular conversation? I know it gets on other people's nerves, but using it as a tool to reinforce the concept you are your Dominant's and not your own makes sense to me personally. You no longer have an identify outside of that which is set up for you by your Dominant. Etc etc?

xkittenishx -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 8:37:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: xkittenishx As to speaking in third person, it's one of the many small ways that she shows her position. she is His property and His pet - His television is known as "the television" - His computer is known as "the computer" and, if He had one, His cat would be known as "the cat" - and so, His girl is known just as that, girl. This girl has always found it a bit annoying herself, in general, but these are the rules He wishes upon her and so she complies, happily. :) Most pets get names. Even on farms the animals that are going to be eaten get names. They are just called Lunch and Dinner. This girl absolutely agrees with that and she calls herself by her name as well, as does her Master, just not in a public forum. she would prefer, here, to use pronouns instead of mixing her actual name into her replies. He also refers to her as "My slave, My whore, My slut" etc as well. He does not normally refer to her in the third person, when speaking to her He calls her "you" (i.e. "I told you what I expect of you.") - she is the only one who abides by that rule, in her relationship.

xkittenishx -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 8:51:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: junecleaver quote: ORIGINAL: xkittenishx This girl is going to put her two cents in because not only does she talk in third person (a practice that she understands is very irksome.), but she also uses the capitalization rule when speaking to her Master. she and her Master spend a part of our time in this realm and because of that He has instilled small rules, like capping references to Him and speaking in third person as a way for this girl to always have to think about her place when she's interacting with Him - even if it's just over chat and telling Him about her day. This girl is educated, articulate, and can't stand the abuse she sees of grammar rules in much of the conversation that goes on, generally, online. she's got a sneaking suspicion that He enjoys it because He knows it makes her twitch a bit. ;) As to speaking in third person, it's one of the many small ways that she shows her position. she is His property and His pet - His television is known as "the television" - His computer is known as "the computer" and, if He had one, His cat would be known as "the cat" - and so, His girl is known just as that, girl. This girl has always found it a bit annoying herself, in general, but these are the rules He wishes upon her and so she complies, happily. :) I have a question. Do you speak like that in regular conversation? I know it gets on other people's nerves, but using it as a tool to reinforce the concept you are your Dominant's and not your own makes sense to me personally. You no longer have an identify outside of that which is set up for you by your Dominant. Etc etc? When this girl and her Master are alone at home or together privately (In the car etc.) then, yes, she does, almost exclusively. When we are in public, with friends or family and the like, then no, she reverts back to first person speech. This girl has gotten fairly good at flipping back and forth naturally. (Although there has been a time or two when out with friends after a few glasses of wine when she's let a "she" instead of "I" slip, hehe.) It does get on other peoples nerves and this slave understands that completely, but she, too, understands the dynamics of why it is used in some cases and why some prefer their slaves to speak as such. This girl chalks it up to personal preference and another learning tool(like you described..) and moves on. Thankfully her Master doesn't have her use the W/we thing. That grates on her worse then grammar, capitialization, and third person all together.

BabyNyla -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 9:05:22 PM)
I will share a little story that always makes me laugh ... when I dommed I never required anyone to address me as a title. When I became a submissive I met a Dom that I started spending a lot of time getting to know. When we were talking over IMs one night he asked me to start addressing him as Sir ... which was not a problem. But then he began to request everything be capitalized. So I decided ... just out of sheer curiosity ... to ask what he had done to deserve double the respect ... of both a title and capitalization. His reply was "nothing I guess". I don't know why ... but I find this amusing ...

AquaticSub -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 9:12:59 PM)
giggles That is adorable and I want to tell that story to some of my friends.

AZSweetie -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/12/2007 9:33:04 PM)
The slashy things i don't care for because it's hard to read. i do tend to lower case myself and capitalize Master, Mistress, Ma'am, Sir etc. It's just done outta plain ol' habit now. Originally it was expected of me as a sign of respect. It has just stuck with me. i think if one doesn't capitalize their Dominants name , title etc, it doesnt mean they are being disrespectful in my opinion. Hey, didn't all this upper case, lower case and slashy things start as "proper online etiquette" some time back? Like originating from chat rooms?

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