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Lucius -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/13/2007 5:09:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael lilsub, that was too subtle sarcasm...I just made that up You mean, You're not referring to the Norma Ortografica Andaluza? Lucius Alexander The palindromedary is proof that you can't make something up. Anything you can imagine already exists SOMEWHERE.....

nephandi -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/13/2007 5:54:05 PM)
i have a fairly gender neutrual name the other nicks i use often to, hagazussa and venefica. i it is a bit sad pepole get angry when one dont follow this code. Or that if one put a lady in front of ones name os is automaticly Dominant. My former online nick was ladynecro, but i had to stop using it on anything D/s related. Anyway, i did not mean to repost what you had already posted, i am sorry, forgive me i missed your post.

cjenny -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/13/2007 5:56:19 PM)
There is no 'sorry' needed here [:)] I was agreeing with you.

stupideity -> RE: __________________: annoying? (2/13/2007 8:55:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucius Is insisting upon “proper grammar” as opposed to a system of capitalization that some find useful, pleasing, and expressive somehow less “anal-retentive” than is insisting upon detailed compliance to that system in defiance of more commonly accepted rules of language? I’m sure there are plenty of reasons for adopting one practice or the other, but I don’t see the sense in labeling either as exclusively “anal retentive.” I think either practice could be, and neither has to be. Say, does anal-retentive really have a hyphen? Sure... you could say that. Insisting on using proper grammar could be considered anal-retentive. You could also call someone who insists on abiding by the proper rules of chess anal-retentive. And it is most certainly anal-retentive when you're a dom or domme who insists on the Submissive or Slave capitalizing/not capitalizing certain words... especially if they don't even know that person. Like some of the dominants on this site who insist on strangers to do their grammatical bidding. That, my friend, is anal-retention. And anal-retentive can be used with or without a hyphen. Thanks for inquiring.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/13/2007 9:00:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael I think that anyone who takes themselves seriously always uses the Andalusian system of ranking and capitalization usage. You've piqued my interest, being that half my family is from that region. Or is this an actual system you're referring to and I'm ignorant to it? I'm curious what you mean, as the folks in that region actually do believe the world began there, lol.

Dunkelheit -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/13/2007 9:14:19 PM)
Personally, I find it annoying.. if the dominant half in my relationship tried to make me capitalize/not capitalize I think I'd laugh, then reconsider if I really wanted to be in a relationship with someone that needs to force me to type in a certain way to assert their superiority. Thankfully, he has much more common sense than that, and his self esteem isn't so fickle as to be influenced by capital letters. I also don't see any reason for me capitalising/not capitalising my own name, or other people's for that matter, just because of their sexual orientation. Just because you are "dominant" does not mean I should submit to you, that's just absurd. The slashy thing is a joke too; to me it's just reminiscent of l3375P34K and other internet slang. Yuck.

obey1 -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 1:12:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub puts on her flame resistent suit My dominant hates the practices as he views it as deification. Only God/other deity gets a capital letter (outside of what is dictated by proper grammar rules). I despise the practice of "W/we" because it makes for choppy writing and defeats the purpose of writing - communication, preferably clear. I refuse to give myself a lowercase "I" because I find that extremely trivial, rather pointless and breaks one of the fundamental rules of English grammar. The word "master" doesn't get a capital letter from me as a noun and most of the time not as a title. My dominant feels that if master is a title, so is submissive and slave and they should get capital letters too. Not sure how I feel about this one, but I submit to his opinion on the issue. I recently talked to a dominant who has been in the lifestyle for many years about this. He doesn't do much online and when I explained all these little "rules" to him, he started laughing. The point of writing is to express ideas, not have a "look how subbly I am" competition. The expressing of ideas is done best when people submit, if you will allow the pun, to the rules of grammar that have been established by hundreds of years of use. But then again, I just won't talk to people who use internet speak. Even on the internet. [:D] tests flame resistant suit I would tend to agree. I use it (slashes "/") sparingly, and only then when it has been shown in the thread that people are already sensitive to it. When I talk in third person I can perform the 'shift' brainlessly. But that is on the internet. The reason I do this is because I speak spanish which has the distinctive form of Ud. when talking to a person with whom you respect due to age, social status, or employment. Otherwise I tend to speak in generalities, such as using Dom/me to describe both sexes. It is basically a word-thought coming from my brain and just flows through my fingers. But I type 40+ WPM.

internation32 -> RE: __________________: annoying? (2/14/2007 2:01:20 AM)
Annoying.... I Expect my slave to capitalize my title. this is for her to understand her place As aquaticsub quotes: Without my dominace you cannot submit. Without your submission I cannot dominate. You are my equal in this, though our roles are different. our roles are different and therfore the approach to the other should be different is it not a must to set certain rules, simply for the sole purpose to be obeyed how else can you dominate, or submit

MadRabbit -> RE: __________________: annoying? (2/14/2007 6:11:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucius quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit Its a nice gesture when people capitalize words in reference to me just like its nice when people refer to me as Sir, but to be honest, I dont pay much attention to it. I once had a 40 year old woman in a munch group constantly refer to me as Sir and capitalize letters in reference to me when she talked to me online. Then when I finnally met her, not only did she not refer to me as Sir once, but treated me like one of her children and her personality didnt resemble her online persona at all! Then when we talked online again, the Sir's were back and the humble persona. More often than not, at least in my experiences and opinion, its just a bunch of "Lets pretend to be something we really arent" crap. You know, Sir - I think I owe You an apology. I WAS all set to jump on this with "Oh, one person You met was different in person than online and so not only she but anyone else who acts that way online must be playing 'Let's pretend to be something we really aren't'" - and then I realized that would be unfair to You. You DID say both "in my experiences and opinion" and more tellingly "More often than not." It's MY personal opinion (and only an opinion - one I could be talked out of even!) that You should have called her on it. Either in person, or later when she slipped into the same persona again online. Ask if she realizes she's doing it, why she's doing it, etc. [ Well I appreciate that. The OP asked for opinions and I presented mine. Thats the problem with opinions. They arent neccessarily wrong, just people disagree with them. Like I could make an opinion like "Lucius is stupid". Is my opinion wrong? Nope. Its just solely my personal opinion. I am sure you however would greatly disagree with it. (Woah...woah...dont jump on me for that either...I did say "COULD make an opinion" after all) Of course what you say is true...my opinion is based on a generalization...but we tend to do that a lot with things like true Doms, fake Doms, and predators...make a lot of generalizations and teach them as truth. My perspective is based on that when I think of all the people I have met...the really fantastic subs and doms that I really respect dont have anything to do with the online etiquette and the people who were mostly interested in creating an online fantasy were the ones really on point with using it Of course there is exceptions...a lot of them. A good number of people I dont respect dont use the online etiquette thing and a good number of people I DO respect do use it. Sadly though, these numbers so far are very trivial in comparsion to the ones above. I'm sure you are a very real person and fall into those categories though. Though I would wonder... If we met in RL, would you continue to refer to me as Sir out of the notion of "proper, respectful etiquette"? If you had jumped on me for my opinion, would you have used the "proper, respectful etiquette" but written a very flame filled and disrespectful post? Kind of like the everyday irony I see when people constantly say "With all due respect" and then proceed to say something really disrespectful. I dont have the answers to either, but sadly its scenarios like these that I keep being exposed to that make all this online etiquette have less and less merit which leads me to my general opinion of "It all being trite and annoying". Though, I do always try to notice when people do it and take it as a good gesture (even if the gesture isnt even really there). But...I wont contribute the lack or presence of it to meaning the person is a better or worse dominant/Master/slave/submissive. Its as, I have said, ultimately very trite and insignificant to me.

goodpet -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 6:16:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: valeca Doesn't bother me in the least. Now adults not knowing the difference between 'there', 'their' and 'they're'...that's irksome to me. I agree with you on this. When a Dom makes there subs capitalize they'er names or titles it is OK. But their are times it can be bothersome.

SCDommie -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 6:28:10 AM)
It is quite simple. In a group such as this one, it helps other Dom/mes know you are collared or not. This means another Dom/me should respect that and not try to hit on you. SCD

damia -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 8:05:36 AM)
i lowercase pronouns referring to myself as a sign of my status as a slave, and capitalize m'Lord's name and pronouns as a sign of respect. i hate the W/we and U/us though. For pronouns referring to both Him and me, i use proper capitalization (example: We are going out this weekend, but we are not sure where we are going yet). i think it is stupid to do the W/w and such. If i talk to someone whom i know uses the W/w and such, and thinks it disrespectful not to, i don't use we, us, or any other plural pronouns. Instead of we, for example, i'd just say "m'Lord and i" or "He and i." ~jewel, owned by Wulf

viperess -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 8:21:27 AM)
Greetings, After reading all the posting about this subject i do find it funny how something as simple as how one addresses others to be such a drawn out ordeal. As i stated earlier which most disagree with is that i use lower case when speaking of myself or other slaves and in caps when speaking of my Master or other Masters. Now if this same subject was discussed on the Gor boards and answered by Goreans and other "Old Order" Masters the answers would be very different as to the preferences. It all just depends on the Masters and slaves and their standing in this life. It is safe to say this is a discussion that everyone can agree to disagree on. Just as speaking in third person is very a pain for some and expected by others. It all depends on who is doing it and how they were trained for what is right for some is not for others. Respectfully viperess slave of CTDOM4sub

AquaticSub -> RE: __________________: annoying? (2/14/2007 8:34:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: internation32 Annoying.... I Expect my slave to capitalize my title. this is for her to understand her place As aquaticsub quotes: Without my dominace you cannot submit. Without your submission I cannot dominate. You are my equal in this, though our roles are different. our roles are different and therfore the approach to the other should be different is it not a must to set certain rules, simply for the sole purpose to be obeyed how else can you dominate, or submit Just because rules are in place place doesn't mean they have to be pointless, which is how my dominant views the capitalization issue. He doesn't make rules to remind me of my place. Rules are there to be obeyed but why make rules just to make rules. My dominant doesn't believe in pointlessness and all his rules are for a reason that are larger then "you are my sub, I'm a making a rule to remind you are my sub". Why? Because he doesn't have to. My place is at his feet, in his lap, in his arms, in his bed. My place is wherever he says it is and per his orders my head goes to that comfy spot on his shoulder every night. I'm his kitten, his Aqua, his little whore, his fucktoy and his girlfriend all rolled up into one. And I will venture to say that if a woman needs use specific states of letters to remember this... she's not much of a partner in this world now is she? By the way, if you are going to quote me look at the reason he hates the damn thing. He views it as taking on Godly airs which he feels is unbefitting a mortal. He is not a God and he not need to be one to control me.

porthuronsub -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 8:34:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SCDommie It is quite simple. In a group such as this one, it helps other Dom/mes know you are collared or not. This means another Dom/me should respect that and not try to hit on you. SCD That is a good idea I suppose, but shouldn't the subs profile state that he/she is taken? Is there then a way to designate if a Domme is looking for a slave or just here to chat? I mean if you are using capitalization to determine if someone is available I can see flaws with that idea, and you should take the 15 seconds to read their profile.

AquaticSub -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 8:35:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SCDommie It is quite simple. In a group such as this one, it helps other Dom/mes know you are collared or not. This means another Dom/me should respect that and not try to hit on you. SCD I'm afraid you are mistaken. To follow the rules all subs/slaves, collared or not, should talk in this specific way. It would not provide any insight as to their status.

Najakcharmer -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 10:13:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SCDommie It is quite simple. In a group such as this one, it helps other Dom/mes know you are collared or not. This means another Dom/me should respect that and not try to hit on you. A) No, it doesn't. You can't tell whether or not someone is owned by whether or not they speak in an obtrusively submissive manner. You can tell if someone is owned by....gasp....ASKING them, or reading their profile. What a concept. B) You must be kidding. There is absolutely nothing that will keep people from hitting on you on an adult site, with the possible exception of putting a picture of tubgirl, lemonparty or goatse on your profile. And even that's far from a sure thing.

AquaticSub -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 10:19:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer B) You must be kidding. There is absolutely nothing that will keep people from hitting on you on an adult site, with the possible exception of putting a picture of tubgirl, lemonparty or goatse on your profile. And even that's far from a sure thing. Must.... resist... urge... to... Google... new... terms...

Najakcharmer -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 10:20:37 AM)
I do suggest resisting, if you are a) at work or b) have recently eaten or drunk anything. [:D]

AquaticSub -> RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? (2/14/2007 10:30:41 AM)
I just had potato soup.... whimpers Must be a good kitten, must be a good kitten, must not look at the scary pictures... By the way, Happy Valentine's Naja!

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