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ORIGINAL: LDRandAstarte

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ORIGINAL: WyrdRich

    You have to find the little button to the next page to find it.  It's never even said outright.  That's the problem.

  You can't turn on a cable news channel at night without hearing those talking heads endlessly speculating about what MIGHT have happened, what the motive MIGHT be.  Every time I hear Nancy Grace utter a syllable, I'm glad I chose NOT to pursue a career in journalism.  Now we have a Muslim go on a killing spree in a mall and people can't even find it in the article.

  The knee-jerk reaction is right there.  Why aren't the tabloid, trash talkers all over this?

Excuse Me, I farted.

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Ok, so can somebody explain to me just why I had to click to the second page in the link before I get enough information to figure out that the guy who murdered those people in the Utah mall was a Muslim?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17124042/

  In these times, that kinda seems like an important tidbit.

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I would ask why we are not announcing the religious affiliations of the family members of other spree killers, why just Muslim ones?

I am sure most spree killers were related to a Christian or were raised that way... why is it only important if the kid is a Muslim.

Those Columbine teens, I wonder what religion their parents were?

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It says he was a survivor of a slaughter of 8000 Muslims by Serbs.

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ORIGINAL: cjenny

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ORIGINAL: WyrdRich

    Lemme see, guy walks in the door of a mall and starts shooting...  I'd say his motivation is a desire to kill.  I frankly don't give a rats ass about what led him to it.

   The facts aren't in yet.  That didn't stop the media from putting out all kinds of complete crap about any other subject they call breaking news.  Remember the rapes and murders happening right in front of police officers during Katrina? 

  My question isn't about why he did it, but about why the angle doesn't even seem to be getting an exploration.

The reason it is on page 2 is that it is a follow-up to the original story..

You may not care why he did it, but I would imagine the following bit is important in his reasoning. I found no reference stating that he was Muslim.
CERSKA, Bosnia - The 18-year-old gunman who shot dead five people in a Salt Lake City shopping mall was a survivor of the siege that ended in the Srebrenica massacre of 8,000 Muslims in Bosnia’s 1992-95 war, a cousin said on Wednesday
Sulejman Talovic, who was killed by police after Monday’s shooting spree in which he also wounded four people, fled his village with his family during the Bosnia war to Srebrenica, a U.N.-protected enclave,

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"We are Muslims, but we are not terrorists," the boy's aunt, Ajka Omerovic, said Wednesday at the family's house.

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Feb14/0,4670,UtahShooting,00.html

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ORIGINAL: WyrdRich

     It's an act of terrorism.  By a Muslim.  On American soil.  Why is it on page 2?

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Not to be presumptuous, but I think what the OP was saying is, WHY did the news leave that piece of information out? The question is about the media rather than the shooters religion.

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As it happens it is Muslim fanatics who attacked us, on 911, so his being Muslim is very pertinent to the story.

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ORIGINAL: Subject2Approval

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ORIGINAL: cjenny

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ORIGINAL: WyrdRich

   Lemme see, guy walks in the door of a mall and starts shooting...  I'd say his motivation is a desire to kill.  I frankly don't give a rats ass about what led him to it.

  The facts aren't in yet.  That didn't stop the media from putting out all kinds of complete crap about any other subject they call breaking news.  Remember the rapes and murders happening right in front of police officers during Katrina? 

My question isn't about why he did it, but about why the angle doesn't even seem to be getting an exploration.

The reason it is on page 2 is that it is a follow-up to the original story..

You may not care why he did it, but I would imagine the following bit is important in his reasoning. I found no reference stating that he was Muslim.
CERSKA, Bosnia - The 18-year-old gunman who shot dead five people in a Salt Lake City shopping mall was a survivor of the siege that ended in the Srebrenica massacre of 8,000 Muslims in Bosnia’s 1992-95 war, a cousin said on Wednesday
Sulejman Talovic, who was killed by police after Monday’s shooting spree in which he also wounded four people, fled his village with his family during the Bosnia war to Srebrenica, a U.N.-protected enclave,

Found it!

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"We are Muslims, but we are not terrorists," the boy's aunt, Ajka Omerovic, said Wednesday at the family's house.

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Feb14/0,4670,UtahShooting,00.html

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One reason that editors may not have stressed the killer's religion was the all too likely possibility that this one troubled Muslim would be taken as emblem of all Muslims. That does indeed seem to be happening on this thread.

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As it happens it is Muslim fanatics who attacked us, on 911, so his being Muslim is very pertinent to the story.

Oh, for crying out loud. The 9/11 terrorists were part of an organized effort rooted in, yes, Islamic fundamentalism. The Utah shooter, to the best of my knowledge, was a lone teen who snapped and ran amok. Linking them strikes me as an intellectually suspect effort to say, "See, all Muslims are alike."

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it has very little to do with a single young teen going on a killing spree.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

s2a ---

You seem to have overlooked a key sentence in the article you cited:

FBI agent Patrick Kiernan in Salt Lake City said the bureau had no reason to believe Sulejman Talovic, who was killed by police, was motivated by religious extremism or an act of terrorism.

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ORIGINAL: Gauge
This was not in the article sited by the OP.

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ORIGINAL: Subject2Approval

No it wasn't the same article he posted. That doesn't matter.

She wanted a reference, I gave cjenny the facts.

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I am stating that, Sulejman, being a muslim, should have been anounced from the beginning.

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ORIGINAL: Subject2Approval

No it wasn't the same article he posted. That doesn't matter.

She wanted a reference, I gave cjenny the facts.

Not to split hairs with you but it does matter that it was a separate article than the one sited because that is where the OP was basing his opinion from.

I am not disputing the facts posted just trying to keep things in line as to where they are coming from.

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This was not in the article sited by the OP.

    Exactly.  How often does the American media not add 2+2 for their audience (Down, Fargle!)?  Granted, they get 3 or 5 as often as 4, but they do it.  Not this time.

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ORIGINAL: Subject2Approval

No it wasn't the same article he posted. That doesn't matter.

She wanted a reference, I gave cjenny the facts.

Not to split hairs with you but it does matter that it was a separate article than the one sited because that is where the OP was basing his opinion from.

I am not disputing the facts posted just trying to keep things in line as to where they are coming from.

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Has it really come down to this? I mean, has our mentality gone to a single-minded bias due to the fact that we were attacked on 9/11? Have we sunk to the depths of a religious/racial bigotry because of 9/11?