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Hunting in the modern age


Hunting is fine for any reason
  6% (2)
Hunting is wrong for any reason
  6% (2)
Hunting is ok for the purpose of food
  46% (15)
Hunting is ok for population control
  18% (6)
hunting is ok for sport
  3% (1)
Hunting is ok if the animals have lasers on their heads
  6% (2)
other-explain
  12% (4)


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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:12:05 PM   
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I have a great recipe for deer jerkey....anybody that wants it. email me on the other side

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:14:57 PM   
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I think the op doesn't realize the dgree of skill that is necessary to be effective...Bow  hunting is extremely difficult....tons of practice and you have to get very close...then you have to prepare (field dress) what you have shot....Much easier to go to the store....But tell me who has more respect for the anmal... the person that harvested it or the person who removes its flesh from plastic wrap?


Ahem, please see response to your last "doesn't know what he's talking about" statement. I AM A HUNTER!  I use rifle, I use bow, I have used pistol.  Geez, so much for trying to stay impartial.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:16:30 PM   
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i almost hit the laser option, except then i imagined the damage such a thing would have to the surrounding wilderness (widespread wildfires)... now if the beasties had opposable thumbs, and could go buy a gun or a knife i'd all for that... make things a little bit more fair, either that or have hunters try to move silently or fluidly through a forest with a 16 point rack on their heads

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:21:15 PM   
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Have you ever tried to shoot a dove?....You should know something about the sport that you are criticizing.


Just so we're clear before I get anymore ..."you're not up to the challenge" insults.  I do hunt...I can shoot a clay disk(conveniently the size of a dove) with a rifle at over 100 yards...shotgun at 60.  I hunt for food.  And again as a hunter,  since I had to out myself to answer your arguement...hunting the little feather duster is not my idea of sporting.  If all you're after is a hard target shoot the clay variety.   



Again I don't hunt but have respect for all who do....Anyone who enjoys the outdoors tends to give much more than they will ever take...via hunting,fishing license...donations to charities that protect our resources etc....However back on point...I don't like the idea of trophy hunting...now back to dove hunting...I have shot clay pigeons...they go exactly on the line they are supposed to...Doves don't...And when done with your dove hunting you count your few breasts and compare them to shells spent....Even for a great hunter and shot, the ratio is way in favor of those cute lil' delicious doves. 

I am an avid fisherman....I fish for men's lost souls....Me and J.C....lol

to the op...saw where you had eaten game but you didn't mention you were a hunter.

Also Peta is now going after fishermen.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:27:11 PM   
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Well at least you read this time lol.  Still don't see the purpose.  I've been on a dove hunt...didn't even feel the urge to shoot one.  Maybe the doves in South Carolina are just stupid but they were flying in pretty straight lines.  Not exactly bobbing and weaving lol.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:32:15 PM   
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In California it is getting harder and harder for the hunter and fisherman.  People seem to think that both are bad.  They have no clue what the money goes to for the privilege to hunt or to fish.  The places that get reclaimed for the animals habitat, the sales taxes alone that pay for everything in a city or county.  My husband use to call them breakfast doves.  Turkey was his most favorite upland game bird that he took up hunting.  It took skill and lots of patience to wait for that Tom/Jake  to get close enough.  If it was not close enough for him he would never take the shot.  I have birds all over my house hanging on my walls.  They are beautiful and even though my husband is gone I will not take them down.
 
My husband had a heart attack on Father's Day 2006 doing one of his favorite things.  A neighbor brought over fresh shrimp and he was like a little kid in the candy store.  He had to go fish for sturgeon.  I said go.  He left that morning saying good-bye and I love you, I said I love you back.  I never saw him again.  (well you know).
 
I figure now he is teaching new souls how to hunt and fish.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:39:25 PM   
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Crap I am going have to switch nics to get this thread moved back to where it was.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:41:00 PM   
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Well I thought it was more of a discussion.  The numbers were sort of secondary.  The forum gods have smited me yet again.  But now we're all closer to the cruise post, yeah!

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:45:12 PM   
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I wouldn't take them down either, they sound like a beautiful way to remember him Hottiegurl.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 4:52:16 PM   
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Most folks who call hunting easy or one sided have never been in a wild area where the animals are not conditioned to lots of human activity. (come right up for hand feeding) Deer eyesight 9 times out of 10 will see a person comming long before our no longer as naturally conditioned for hunting eyesight and brains. Sense of smell that detects man's scent for great distances, Hearing with ears that naturally pivot and can detect sounds of a breaking twig at several hundred yards under the right conditions.

Trophy, what's a trophy? the doe I took in 1998 with a bow after sneaking up on her to within 15 yards, That was a trophy.
The reason most folks see big bucks with many points as a trophy is simple they are the best genetic of the species and in order to get to the score that puts them in the books they almost invariably have to have 5-6 years behind them avoiding all the other hunters and or other predators for all that time. Personally I have no intent to seek out a buck that makes the record books, but if they happen to cross my sight inside my range of ethical shooting I'll take a shot, if not I won't be heartbroken. BTW the Boone and rocket and Pope and Young record books have standards of "fair chase".hey also donate money for research that helps the species as a whole The West Virginia Black Bear Monitoring and Research Project graciously accepted 3 donations from private groups during this fiscal year. The Camp Fire Conservation Fund, Inc., the West Virginia Bowhunters Association, and the West Virginia Trophy Hunters Association have all donated money to help us buy additional radio transmitters. Their support of our natural resources and projects help to demonstrate the cooperation between the WVDNR and multiple groups. We thank them for their continued support.



Outwitting an actually wild deer in his environment is far from a guaranteed effort, (as born out by the success rates for hunters that the various Depts of Wildlife keep for their Wildlife Management Areas) The best rates being under 50% for the entire season even in states where the season lasts for months, and that's for gun hunting, rates for bowhunters tend to hang around the 10% range for the season. For my lifetime hunting I have had within my bow range I'd say I have drawn my bow 10 times and had only 3 times where the arrow has been let fly out of 100 or so deer. But I have considered well over half my seasons as successful by my standards. (If I get within range 25 yards or less with my bow on one deer during the season).


BTW the reason whitetail are considered introduced in the original post is simple they were hunted to extinction back in the 1800's and then subsequently re-introduced from heards in other states paid for by hunters who learned their lesson, and started to self regulate with licenses and seasons. They have few natural predators in WV because the predators have been largely hunted to extreamly low levels. Black Bears, Coyotees, Cougars, Bobcats for the fawns, and Wolves are their natural predators.
So the statement that they have no natural predators is incorrect. WV has Black Bears and Coyotees, There is small evidence to indicate a couple Cougars still alive there as well but unlikely that there are many. http://easterncougarnet.org/middleatlantic.html
Coyotee in WV link http://www.wvdnr.gov/hunting/CoyoteResearch.shtm
Black Bear not WV but showing they are a predator for deer http://www.aginfo.psu.edu/news/december01/fawn.html


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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 5:01:29 PM   
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Turkeys are shockingly fast for those that haven't seen wild ones. (Did you non hunter/woodsy folk know that turkeys sleep in trees?). No way can you sneak up on those without experience and work!

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 5:04:51 PM   
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Good post Archer.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 5:05:28 PM   
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    Thanks for the info.  I thought I said few natural predators...did I say none?  Crap, just in case I typed it wrong....he's right.  We have coyotes up here to....also introduced to control deer population. 
   I think the closest I got to a deer was about 20 yards...it was an 8 point.  It was rifle season at the time so there wasn't much aiming to it. 
   I do have argue when people talk about cover scent, lure scents, antler rattling, feeders and everything else.  I don't use any of it and I don't really have any problems getting limit each year.  My biggest challenge is usually keeping my feet warm and fighting boredom while I wait...I have a little hyperactivity issue. 

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 5:07:55 PM   
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Turkeys are shockingly fast for those that haven't seen wild ones. (Did you non hunter/woodsy folk know that turkeys sleep in trees?). No way can you sneak up on those without experience and work!

They can see you quick too.  And once they do they don't mess around....woosh, gone

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 5:08:37 PM   
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So up the stakes and challange and hunt from the ground, still hunt, Spot and Stalk, Bowhunt, still too easy use traditional longbow (my prefered weapon) I have thus far refused to hunt from an elevated blind or treestand.


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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 5:08:54 PM   
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As a teen I was an avid hunter. All the way to my earlt twenties.I had an uncle that was a game cop with the state so iI kind knew where all the best stands were.Then along came the military. Needless to say being hunted in the jungle puts a WHOLE new spin on hunting.I no longer hunt. But more power to those that do to feed thier families. I dont even have a problem with some poor guy poping an elk out of season to feed his kids.
What I DO have a problem with is the assholes that will go out and pop 10 cow elk and leave em in the field to rot.
But I'm just funny that way.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 5:14:02 PM   
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Yep. They drop them and strip their ivories. There should be a hunting season for those pricks.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 5:19:27 PM   
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lol, I don't use a tree stand because I'm too cheap to buy one and I like to walk to much...hyperactivity thing again.  I have to do the stalking I can only stand to sit for maybe 20 minute or so.  I hunt through all the seasons but I still like my rifle. I believe it's the fastest and therefore most humane kill.  Like I said I'm a meat hunter...whatever achieves that goal is my prefered method.  Whether is leveling a bow at 30 yards or the scope at 200...makes no difference to me.

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 5:22:08 PM   
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As a teen I was an avid hunter. All the way to my earlt twenties.I had an uncle that was a game cop with the state so iI kind knew where all the best stands were.Then along came the military. Needless to say being hunted in the jungle puts a WHOLE new spin on hunting.I no longer hunt. But more power to those that do to feed thier families. I dont even have a problem with some poor guy poping an elk out of season to feed his kids.
What I DO have a problem with is the assholes that will go out and pop 10 cow elk and leave em in the field to rot.
But I'm just funny that way.


Amen...my problem is with the road hunters...people that pop out of their trucks shoot a deer in a field and speed away with it.  Last time I checked it's still illegal too. 

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RE: Hunting in the modern age - 2/16/2007 6:14:30 PM   
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It's like so many other things.  A few idiots ruin the reputation of the great and respectful
hunters out there.

Just do it carefully.

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