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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/20/2007 1:30:10 AM   
MadameDahlia


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Don't some primates seem to do so as well?


The thread the OP gave discusses bonobo homosexuality. I have read other articles on this as well, some more credible than others. One less believable article claims that bonobos engage in sex for pleasure as frequently as once every 2 hours. While I would tend to doubt that estimate, most credible papers written on bonobo sexuality does show that they engage in sex for reasons that are obviously not reproductive such as oral sex beteen females, and that they do it more frequently than do humans.



In my Physical Anthropology class we discussed this group of primates [bonobos (Pan Paniscus)] quite a bit.

They are very sexually active. They live in communities of about 50 animals, but they spend most of their time in smaller groups of 2-10 individuals. Compared to chimpanzees, the bonobos are more social and peaceful.

Their sexual behavior shows some features that are not found in other apes. For example, they mate face to face (ventroventral) about a quarter of the time. The position is rare among most mammals and not found among chimpanzees. It's pimarily found among whales, porpoises and humans.

Female bonobos exhibit a prolonged period of sexual receptivity, copulation occuring even in the early phases of the estrus cycle.

In chimpanzee groups the males will initiate sexual behaviors. In bonobo society both males and females initiate sexual contact in an egalitarian manner. Those who have observed their habits have noticed homosexual behaviors, though it seems to be primarily among the females in the group. Quite often the homosexual interactions between two females will occur before or after one or both of the females have engaged in heterosexual copulation.

In class we also learned that, contrary to rather popular belief, the bonobo is our closest genetic relative - not the chimpanzee.

They seem to have a lot in common with a number of people involved in "alternative lifestyles" as well. They're not monogamous. They're all over the place in terms of sexual orientation. And sex seems to be an enormous part of their world:

"Sexual intercourse plays a major role in Bonobo society, being used as a greeting, a means of conflict resolution and post-conflict reconciliation, and as favors traded by the females in exchange for food. Bonobos are the only non-human apes to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex (most frequently female-female, then male-female and male-male), tongue kissing, and oral sex."

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

What a wild bunch... I bet they throw some awesome parties.

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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/20/2007 1:37:08 AM   
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Very awesome post Dahlia. My hat is off to you.

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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/20/2007 2:02:41 AM   
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Many thanks Mister Troll.

After having been amused, enlightened or a combination of the two after reading a number of your posts I'm glad to have been able to reciprocate in some fashion.

You truly are one of the Masters of Intellectual Discourse here at CM.com.

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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/20/2007 8:07:41 AM   
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Hey, Troll, I've heard Dahlia is pretty hot.

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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/20/2007 8:50:01 AM   
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MadameDahlia:
Most interesting post.  It has been a long time since I took anthro.  I am always interested in new discoveries.
Thank you for your very informative post.
thompson

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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/20/2007 9:04:23 AM   
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I wonder if she spanks?



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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/20/2007 9:09:46 AM   
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I wonder if she spanks?




Ron:
Her profile says she does.
thompson

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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/21/2007 1:45:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Hey, Troll, I've heard Dahlia is pretty hot.


Who have you been talking to? I'll have them up on charges! Don't they know rumors like that are the gateways through which HNGs stumble?!

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MadameDahlia:
Most interesting post. It has been a long time since I took anthro. I am always interested in new discoveries.
Thank you for your very informative post.
thompson


Why thank you very much! You're much too kind. I'm glad to have contributed something that others found interesting to read though. And I'm always happy to have shared random bits of trivia with people. I've got to do something with all that silliness in my head.

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I wonder if she spanks?



*Laughs* You betcha.  Much to the amazement of people at a local dungeon. (Must not be sidetracked by amusing anecdote.) 

It's always the itty, bitty quiet ones that you need to watch out for. Never know what may lurk beneath the surface...

On a bit of a tangent... The three people I've replied to in this post are other awesomely fun CM.com posters that I have enjoyed reading posts from. You've all made my morning brighter. (Metaphorically speaking... It's 1:44 and the only illumination outside is from a street lamp!)

Speaking of the late hour... I should be heading to bed. G'nite/morning all!
Hope every last one of you is doing well and having a grand time.


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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/21/2007 11:50:08 AM   
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Sinergy:
I thought it was pretty obvious that I was offering substantiation for your point.  I only disagree with you is when you are wrong.
thompson


Thanks, sorry for my puzzlement.

I have been kicked in the head 10 out of the last 15 days and my thoughts are a bit fuzzy at the moment.

Sinergy

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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/21/2007 11:52:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MadameDahlia

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Don't some primates seem to do so as well?


The thread the OP gave discusses bonobo homosexuality. I have read other articles on this as well, some more credible than others. One less believable article claims that bonobos engage in sex for pleasure as frequently as once every 2 hours. While I would tend to doubt that estimate, most credible papers written on bonobo sexuality does show that they engage in sex for reasons that are obviously not reproductive such as oral sex beteen females, and that they do it more frequently than do humans.



In my Physical Anthropology class we discussed this group of primates [bonobos (Pan Paniscus)] quite a bit.

They are very sexually active. They live in communities of about 50 animals, but they spend most of their time in smaller groups of 2-10 individuals. Compared to chimpanzees, the bonobos are more social and peaceful.

Their sexual behavior shows some features that are not found in other apes. For example, they mate face to face (ventroventral) about a quarter of the time. The position is rare among most mammals and not found among chimpanzees. It's pimarily found among whales, porpoises and humans.

Female bonobos exhibit a prolonged period of sexual receptivity, copulation occuring even in the early phases of the estrus cycle.

In chimpanzee groups the males will initiate sexual behaviors. In bonobo society both males and females initiate sexual contact in an egalitarian manner. Those who have observed their habits have noticed homosexual behaviors, though it seems to be primarily among the females in the group. Quite often the homosexual interactions between two females will occur before or after one or both of the females have engaged in heterosexual copulation.

In class we also learned that, contrary to rather popular belief, the bonobo is our closest genetic relative - not the chimpanzee.

They seem to have a lot in common with a number of people involved in "alternative lifestyles" as well. They're not monogamous. They're all over the place in terms of sexual orientation. And sex seems to be an enormous part of their world:

"Sexual intercourse plays a major role in Bonobo society, being used as a greeting, a means of conflict resolution and post-conflict reconciliation, and as favors traded by the females in exchange for food. Bonobos are the only non-human apes to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex (most frequently female-female, then male-female and male-male), tongue kissing, and oral sex."

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

What a wild bunch... I bet they throw some awesome parties.


I just finished reading Jared Diamond's "Why Is Sex Fun?"

He went into great depth about the sexual behavior differences between primates, humans, and other animals. 

Sinergy

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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/21/2007 2:11:24 PM   
MadameDahlia


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Ooh thank you! I'm always interested in new reading materials. I'll have to add that one to my list.

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RE: animal homosexuality - 2/21/2007 6:27:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MadameDahlia

Who have you been talking to? I'll have them up on charges! Don't they know rumors like that are the gateways through which HNGs stumble?!


Well fuk-a-didle. I was just about to stumble too.

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